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Topic |
Capt Brent
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2011.06.10 21:48:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Capt Brent on 10/06/2011 22:32:49
I would just like to ask if CCP is reviewing security or are they runing more secure than most game companies.
There seems to be some very serious security breaches currently and being a Sony and codemaster user I am starting to feel a little nervous about how safe are information is online. Is CCP taking the current attacks in the gameing comunity as an oportunity to review how secure we all are?
I know CCP is better than your normal games companies. |
Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
|
Posted - 2011.06.10 21:55:00 - [ 2]
 Originally by: Capt Brent
I am starting to feel a little nervous about how safe are information is online.
Oh, that's simple: if it's online, it's not safe. Welcome to 1970. |
Capt Brent
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2011.06.10 21:59:00 - [ 3]
I know nothing is completely safe but but having a house made of bricks is better than being made of straw.
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Zag'mar Jurkar
Minmatar
Advent of the Blood Sun
|
Posted - 2011.06.10 22:01:00 - [ 4]
Anything Online is unsafe.
It's like people complaining about privacy and facebook, YOU decide what you put online, if you ain't ready to risk, some day, that people will see these infos, then don't put anything online. |
Capt Brent
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2011.06.10 22:12:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: Capt Brent on 10/06/2011 22:14:05
If CCP have a security breach like Sony it would be a disaster, dont forget Sony had been offline for over a month and the estimated bill was $171 million.
Eve is a living breathing world it can't afford to go off line, the damage would be huge.
Plus if a company was not taking the correct precations makimg sure the fire walls are secure, data is highly encrypted and secure servers in place, we dont want any gaping wholes like Sony had failing to encrypt personal data.
I been online for years but cant anyone see what is happening at the moment there is a real up take in cyber attacks at present. Security seems more important than ever. I want EVE to be a fortress because I love game so much. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate |
Posted - 2011.06.10 22:16:00 - [ 6]
I think what is going to happen is, CCP is going to set up all dust accounts with their stuff rather than letting it be set up using sony network.
More complex but..... safer. |
Acac Sunflyier
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.06.10 22:32:00 - [ 7]
Op your thread title seems to be asking a question but your punctuation mark seems to say it is a statement. Please make up your mind. |
Capt Brent
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2011.06.10 22:35:00 - [ 8]
I have changed it so you can sleep easy now :)
Thank you |
DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium |
Posted - 2011.06.10 23:31:00 - [ 9]
Indeed, nothing is safe..
That's why ner a person in eve knows my name is Quennel Bob Yanisin..
Nor do they know my eve login name is I_Love_Mephysto
Nor do they know my SSN is 520-43-8547
And I dare not tell them that my password is the state I was born in!.....
On top of all of that, If anyone found out I was born Jan 5th 1983 and my mothers maiden name was Washkin then I could be in some serious trouble..
So I'll ner say anything. |
Mara Rinn |
Posted - 2011.06.10 23:41:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Capt Brent
… I am starting to feel a little nervous about how safe are information is online. Is CCP taking the current attacks in the gameing comunity as an oportunity to review how secure we all are?
If someone broke in and stole information from CCP, what would they have on you? Name, billing address, credit card number. How can you mitigate the damage caused by the release of that information? Use a debit card, use a prepaid credit card, or don't use a credit card at all. Once you've given them your name and billing address, you can't take them back. So the only damage you can hope to mitigate now is to switch to a pre-paid credit card or use PLEX, cancel your existing card, move house and change name! How safe is your information? Less safe than if you didn't give it to them. Remember, when determining safety you must first consider the worst case scenario. Evaluating the likelihood of that scenario occurring comes later. |
Atticus Fynch
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.06.11 00:14:00 - [ 11]
Can subs be paid through paypal? |
Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
|
Posted - 2011.06.11 01:26:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Can subs be paid through paypal?
I pay mine yearly through it. Credit cards on the net bad bad idea. |
r0selan
Kasar Infinae |
Posted - 2011.06.11 04:03:00 - [ 13]
I do all my online transactions throu paypal since, well, paypal exists. Once I was working in a foreign country and bought some game with my credit card, within 2 minutes they called on my mobile to ask me if I did indeed commit the transaction... I guess they have some blacklist ^^ That said, I suspect eve servers and accounts are under more attacks than your random game, simply due to... the nature of it's player base. And it's seems the thing is still afloat. Hence, I feel more safe here than any other website/game. Hell, that's one thing CCP's good at. Maybe they should licence this expertise  |
Ranka Mei
Caldari |
Posted - 2011.06.11 04:24:00 - [ 14]
Edited by: Ranka Mei on 11/06/2011 04:28:39
I recall, not too long ago, when the EVE market went kaput (causing a nearly two-day outage). Apparently 1 tiny script, supposed to update items, had failed, and sold items were essentially just getting blackholed. Not really a security matter, of course, but it just goes to show that what you think should come with all sorts of failsafes and checks & balances, in reality came crumbling down, because it all hinged on 1 tiny standalone script, that clearly had no watchdog monitor of any kind on it to see if would fail.
My point being: it's scary if you start thinking about the discrepancy between what should be, and what usually is.
EDIT: Does game-login even go over a secure line in the client? |
Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2011.06.11 04:26:00 - [ 15]
Anonymous has no plans to hack EvE... However I can't speak to the intentions of splinter groups like lulzsec.
Since most of the EVE Devs are members of anon and a large % of the userbase for the game also consists of members of anon I don't think they will **** were they sleep.
Then again there have been alot of summer***s joining eve as of late.. They might feel the need to purge the cancer. |
Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
|
Posted - 2011.06.11 04:27:00 - [ 16]
A few days back EVE went down with no warning at all.
It was a "Database" issue. You thought what? The database went on a coffee break? Wild speculation but my guess would be they got a security flag. A serious one. Serious enough to pull the plug.
I'd say CCP know full well the nature of thier game and are more than ready to duck a punch or two. |
Xenuria
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2011.06.11 04:32:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Ioci
A few days back EVE went down with no warning at all.
It was a "Database" issue. You thought what? The database went on a coffee break? Wild speculation but my guess would be they got a security flag. A serious one. Serious enough to pull the plug.
I'd say CCP know full well the nature of thier game and are more than ready to duck a punch or two.
You are correct.. I can confirm that the reason they shut down the server was due to some "friends" testing out a new toy. It took CCP approximately 11 mins to detect and then take action. I was most impressed. |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.06.11 04:41:00 - [ 18]
Doesn't bother me at all. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School |
Posted - 2011.06.11 04:47:00 - [ 19]
From the wonderful, secure state of their "thousands of manhours" forum project...
I'd say security couldn't get worse. |
Constantinus Maximus
Paxian Expeditionary Force
|
Posted - 2011.06.11 05:10:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Capt Brent
codemaster user
Never, ever, ever, ever buy Codemasters. They're a scam plain and simple. They buy up games with a big name, wrap up a generic ****ty engine, and release it as the next in the series. Only quick cash grabs, most of their business is pre-order from fanbois based on bull**** hype. |
San Severina
Minmatar |
Posted - 2011.06.11 06:30:00 - [ 21]
...Safe... Is very hard to define in cyberspace.  |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
|
Posted - 2011.06.11 06:33:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: San Severina
...Safe...
Is very hard to define in cyberspace.
Not really, Webster's online dictionary defines safe as: –adjective 1. secure from liability to harm, injury, danger, or risk –noun 8. a steel or iron box or repository for money, jewels, papers, etc. Hooray!  |
Dalmont Delantee
Gallente
Shiloh Technologies |
Posted - 2011.06.11 07:09:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Can subs be paid through paypal?
What? Paypal isn't online? :P They can get hacked too you know...frequently do |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous |
Posted - 2011.06.11 11:16:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Mara Rinn
How can you mitigate the damage caused by the release of that information? Use a debit card, use a prepaid credit card, or don't use a credit card at all. Once you've given them your name and billing address, you can't take them back. So the only damage you can hope to mitigate now is to switch to a pre-paid credit card or use PLEX, cancel your existing card, move house and change name!
How safe is your information? Less safe than if you didn't give it to them. Remember, when determining safety you must first consider the worst case scenario. Evaluating the likelihood of that scenario occurring comes later.
In other words, fly what you can afford to lose. Seriously though, Mara is right in that anybody out there trusting a globalized electronic network to manage their RL wallet, should only put in that wallet what they could afford to be hacked and loss. Personal responsibility is still necessary, if you rely on digital accounts and they get hacked and now you can't pay rent, that's a personal fail. This whole PS3 security paranoia is whack. It's like saying you'll never get on an airplane ever again post 9-11. Totally a valid personal choice, but you cant blame the airlines because riding the train everywhere sux. No online network is totally secure, no digital transaction is totally secure, dont put yourself at risk, but don't sit out all the fun just because there's a one in a million chance you might be out some money [temporarily] while the lawsuit settles and you get your money back and than some for your trouble. TL,DR: Eve/Dust is teh sex: So be smart wear a condom, but don't be a prude and sit out while everyone else has all the fun. |
Joe Forum
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.06.11 11:37:00 - [ 25]
RSA got owned - you'd have thought they'd be about as tough a target as it gets.
I think CCP doesn't stand a chance if/when they get targeted. |
Khossan |
Posted - 2011.06.11 16:04:00 - [ 26]
Is it ok that I interpret some of the replies above into this. Nothing is safe online, so skip all kinds of security. If you try to get good security, or as a customer be asking for, you both are stupid and ignorant. |
Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
|
Posted - 2011.06.11 16:31:00 - [ 27]
I would hope that CCP is taking actions to increase the protection they have against hacking.
I realize that it is impossible for CCP to make their networks 100% secure. However, there ARE things that they can do to mitigate the damage.
I personally would like CCP to have ALL personal information heavily encrypted, with different encryption keys. I would also like them to take action to reduce the amount of internet exposure our personal information has. |
Murixo
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless- |
Posted - 2011.06.11 17:33:00 - [ 28]
Speaking of security, when can I use my keycode fob thing I got at Fanfest? |
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