Posted - 2011.06.05 00:05:00 - [92]

 

Originally by: Dez Affinity

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But in PlanetSide stuff didn't really matter, I mean nothing couldn't be undone within a day or so, the consequences didn't have much repercussions to the player base.

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So much like, say, EVE, then?

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Besides your example is flawed in the sense that PlanetSide was self contained, Dust514 isn't, or at least it might not be.

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They've said that Dust can live without EVE and vice versa, so who knows. But more to the point: you don't know, and yet you make these claims about what it will be and what the consequences of this design (that you've made up) will be…

Posted - 2011.06.05 00:10:00 - [94]

 

Originally by: Sarmatiko

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I wonder when console player leaves, who will get his stuff?

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I wonder the same thing.

Posted - 2011.06.05 00:19:00 - [96]

 

Originally by: Holy One

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I know that I am fabulous.

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Yes, well… that goes without saying.

Originally by: Dez Affinity

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In EVE, just lose time and ISK and EVE got rid of station ping pong a long time ago. In planetside, you log off for the night and come back and it's back as it was before.

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Yes, but the same thing could very well happen in EVE: nothing can't be undone within a day or so. And the repercussions in PS could be pretty severe (as in: everyone got tired of losing and now you're stuck in sanc with no-where to go).

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On the counterpoint, you don't know either, so you can't refute my claims.

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No, but that's kind of the point: from what I've seen and heard, it looks far more like the PS-kind of obfuscated capture-the-flag than the Halo/BF-kind of blatantly obvious capture the flag… and tied to a persistent world (much like the former, and completely unlike the latter). So I'm quietly wondering how much of this dismissal of Dust as yet another BF/CoD/Halo/Whatever-clone is due to not being familiar with how MMOFPSes like PS have worked…

Posted - 2011.06.05 00:37:00 - [98]

 

This is very disappointing news, Dust was on lock for me because of XBL don't know about it now.

Posted - 2011.06.05 00:56:00 - [100]

 

Didn't VALVe (aka Gabe Newell) announce Portal 2 on the PS3 conference?

^that it is (maybe) going to get revealed at the Sony conference means nothing.

Posted - 2011.06.05 01:23:00 - [102]

 

Edited by: George Wilkes Hill on 05/06/2011 01:30:34

Originally by: Val'Dore

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Originally by: George Wilkes Hill

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Edited by: George Wilkes Hill on 04/06/2011 20:05:37
That would be disastrous if it was a PS3 exclusive they don't have the market to support Dust alone. Let alone the network capabilities they just had their service shut down for like a month due to hacks, got it back up and running then they were hacked again. Sony sucks. If it's PS3 exclusive CCP is not thinking straight.

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They were only hacked the one time. They merely became aware of more than the obvious damage.

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You are wrong. Look at news read a little; more than once. They were hacked twice separately. The first time their service was down for a month. Sony sucks.

Posted - 2011.06.05 03:21:00 - [104]

 

Originally by: Tippia

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…oh, and Doom 3 was first presented to the public during a Macworld Expo.

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So was Halo, interestingly enough, and look how that franchise turned out.

Posted - 2011.06.05 03:43:00 - [106]

 

OHHHH I want to open a Sony PlayStation Online account now.


Oh wait - thats not such a good idea is it?

Posted - 2011.06.05 04:17:00 - [108]

 

Nice to see so many people have trained "Jumping to conclusions" level V.

Posted - 2011.06.05 04:46:00 - [110]

 

Originally by: Mister Rocknrolla

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I was thinking Dust was going to be a Flash-based browser game.

Seriously, when did CCP announce "ambulation?" How long did it take to deliver a sliver of the content they promised waaaay back then?

So, they're going to announce something Monday. Big whoop. Likely won't deliver until your grandkids are playing.

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oh hi look at me I don't know how logn it takes to make a game!

1.5 years ago they showed dust514 in action and played it on stage. They told everyone that it had in been in production for 3 years so far and they had just gotten to pre-pre alpha.

anotehr year or so, so a total of 4 years is about how long it takes.

Star wars battlefield took 4 years to make, so did call of duty3. It' normal turnaround for game development.

Posted - 2011.06.05 06:46:00 - [112]

 

Originally by: Albetta

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Originally by: Tippia

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…oh, and Doom 3 was first presented to the public during a Macworld Expo.

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So was Halo, interestingly enough, and look how that franchise turned out.

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That wasn't all that strange, what with being the spiritual successor to Marathon and with Bungie's (then) long-standing love for the Apple platforms.

It was also kind of fun how history repeated itself for the launch of the 360, when the pre-launch demos were run on a bunch of G4 Macs (iirc) ducttaped together.

Posted - 2011.06.05 08:18:00 - [114]

 

Hah! Like anyone will play an mmo on ps3, you'll have to make an account on ps3 and we all know what happens if you do that.

Posted - 2011.06.05 08:22:00 - [116]

 

Originally by: Val'Dore

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Originally by: George Wilkes Hill

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Edited by: George Wilkes Hill on 04/06/2011 20:05:37
That would be disastrous if it was a PS3 exclusive they don't have the market to support Dust alone. Let alone the network capabilities they just had their service shut down for like a month due to hacks, got it back up and running then they were hacked again. Sony sucks. If it's PS3 exclusive CCP is not thinking straight.

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They were only hacked the one time. They merely became aware of more than the obvious damage.

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They have been hacked at least three times that we know of and there is a report that its been done again in the news today. You'd have to be a numpty to sign up to psn now.

Posted - 2011.06.05 08:29:00 - [118]

 

Originally by: knobber Jobbler

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They have been hacked at least three times that we know of and there is a report that its been done again in the news today. You'd have to be a numpty to sign up to psn now.

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Define "they"… Sony, yes. PSN, no.

Afaik, so far, the tally is PSN — hacked once, exploited once; the Station website, hacked once; and Sony Pictures hacked once (and the PSN exploit was actually more of a Station exploit, but aimed at PSN accounts). So Val'Dore is still technically correct.

Posted - 2011.06.05 08:39:00 - [120]

 

Originally by: Val'Dore

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Here's a thought, YOU read the news a little; more than once. They were hacked once. The first time their service was not down at all, because they did not realize the extent of the problem. The 15 day offlining of Sony's web services was due to the discovery of major network security deficiencies after the fact.

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No they were in fact compromised multiple times with multiple methods :

First one (that we know of) was PSN/SOE. Note that a second attack occurred when Sony attempted to online the PSN again simply because Sony don't have the first idea of how to store user data or how to provide password recovery. The second attack was unrelated to the first in technical terms;

Second one was Sony Music Japan - courtesy of LulzSec, local press reported "tens of thousands of accounts compromised". It should be noted that multiple Sony Music sites around the world were compromised over a period of weeks;

Third one was Sony Ericsson via an SQL injection attack in Canada (2000 accounts compromised);

Fourth one was Sony Pictures courtesy of LulzSec - method was NOT the same as used to compromise Sony Music sites.

Anyone who trusts Sony in any way is a moron. Simple as.