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Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2011.05.29 12:01:00 - [1]
 

ok we have a bugged anomaly in our 0.0 system. Unfortunately itīs our best anomaly, itīs a forsaken hub.

It doesnīt spawn npcīs and since you cant finish it, because there are no npcīs, itīs just sitting there, bugged, and nothing you can do about it. We had it petitioned 2 times, then a gm showed up and was so nice and resetted it.

Then it worked like it should, but only until the next downtime, then it goes bugged again, until a gm fixes it. If

The problem is, if it doesnīt get fixed by a gm, it doesntīt even reset after a downtime. It will sit there bugged until all eternity.

Removed. Navigator

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.05.29 12:08:00 - [2]
 



File a petition under "Gamesmaster & ISD"


Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2011.05.29 12:11:00 - [3]
 

thanks, didnīt even know this category exists.

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.29 13:52:00 - [4]
 

Hello Tamahra,

The first thing you can do is submit a bug report with as much information as possible on that anomaly. Each case can be quite unique so the more information we have the better.

I have also removed some of your original post since accusing a GM of telling lies is a bit of a stretch.

Finally, I would not put much stock in advice given by a random player on petition queues. Quite often they are just wrong. A GM will be along shortly with more details.

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.05.29 13:59:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: CCP Navigator
I have also removed some of your original post since accusing a GM of telling lies is a bit of a stretch.

GMs only tell untruths... Rolling Eyes

Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
Posted - 2011.05.29 14:00:00 - [6]
 


CCP is always right.
Customer is always wrong.


Lets look at that dependancy graph.

CCP depends upon customers.


GM Homonoia

Posted - 2011.05.29 14:00:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: GM Homonoia on 29/05/2011 14:03:28
Edited by: GM Homonoia on 29/05/2011 14:01:57
Important Note: I will not be commenting on this specific case. I have not read the petition in question and I have not been, in any way, involved with this particular matter. I cannot discuss individual petitions on the forums. If you have any questions regarding a specific petition, please use the petition system. If you were unhappy with a petition, ask for escalation to a senior.

Now, what I can do is explain a few things about broken anomalies.

Why do they break: Well, we do not know for sure or we would have fixed it (I am not part of development, so I have no idea where we are with this), but it seems that an anomaly can break when it is activated but not finished when downtime hits. If you have any information regarding this, please file a bug report so our bug hunters can look into it. You can do so here.

How can you avoid breaking anomalies: The only sure fire way seems to be to finish an anomaly before downtime hits. In other words, don't start an anomaly if you cannot finish it.

What to do if an anomaly does break: If you do end up with a broken anomaly you should do the following.
1. Warp to the anomaly and enter the site.
2. File a petition from the character that is at the anomaly site in the "Stuck Character" (We have, internally, decided that we shall handle these cases as time sensitive and thus they get a certain priority).
3. Provide the system name.*
4. Provide the anomaly name.*
5. Provide the anomaly ID number.*
6. A GM shall take action as quickly as possible.
7. Follow any GM instructions (for example; an anomaly will only respawn if you warp out and wait a few minutes after a GM takes action).

* This information is not truly needed, but it will speed up the process significantly.

Expectation management: This is a big one. We do have tools to fix broken anomalies. However, in some cases the anomaly ends up in a state where, no matter what we do, it cannot be fixed. In that case only 3 consecutive downtimes can remove and fix the anomalies. This truly and thoroughly sucks, but unfortunately that is the current reality. In most cases we should be able to help, though.

Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2011.05.29 14:04:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Tamahra on 29/05/2011 14:33:02
Thanks CCP Nav and GM Homoia for your quick replies.

/edit: and ill have to apologize for accusing the gm of lies. He apparently was truly not able to fix it.

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2011.05.29 15:06:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 29/05/2011 15:06:16
while the GMs are indeed there to help customers, they cannot fix a bug. So if the issue reappears after a while, then a GM can do nothing but to help you and escalate the bug with a description on when and how it happens.

So a GM always helped you and you are asking to have him/her fired? I am without words how sad this is

Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service
Posted - 2011.05.29 15:51:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Tamahra on 29/05/2011 15:57:53
Edited by: Tamahra on 29/05/2011 15:54:11
Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
Edited by: Deviana Sevidon on 29/05/2011 15:06:16
while the GMs are indeed there to help customers, they cannot fix a bug. So if the issue reappears after a while, then a GM can do nothing but to help you and escalate the bug with a description on when and how it happens.

So a GM always helped you and you are asking to have him/her fired? I am without words how sad this is


The issue was actually a bit more complicated. The anomaly bugged three days in a row. The first two gmīs fixed the anomaly for us so that we could play with it, at least til the next downtimes stroke. After the third downtime, it was bugged again, so we petitioned it for the 3rd time, and this time the gm didntīt fix it. Instead he replied that he wouldnīt be able to fix it and that the next downtime would fix it, which it didnīt.

At that time i didntīt know that an anomaly can be that bugged that even CCP cannot fix them anymore Confused

/edit: Ok, with that knowledge, i would say they should fire the QA department or the programmers instead YARRRR!!

(JOOOOKE :=) )

Zelda Wei
Caldari
New Horizon Trade Exchange
Posted - 2011.05.29 16:36:00 - [11]
 


OP is twonk, the truth is out camping and chaining anoms F***S them up. Deserves OP right.

Miso Hawnee
Posted - 2011.05.29 17:40:00 - [12]
 

This sounds like the same bug that has been around since dominion 1.0. Don't worry a patch is coming SoonTM.

Ay Liz
Sacred Templars
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2011.05.29 18:00:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Miso Hawnee
This sounds like the same bug that has been around since dominion 1.0. Don't worry a patch is coming SoonTM.


I am pretty sure i saw a bugged anomaly before Dominion so i think that bug is older than that. We just see it way more frequently because we have anomaly generators now.


 

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