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Qettesh
Posted - 2011.05.28 10:49:00 - [1]
 

Hi,

First the good news, as a mac user I actually managed to actually get Incarna to load and enter my captains quarters :)

Now the bad news, the FPS were really really bad :( ranging from 5fps to 10fps at optimised low settings, everything set to low!
My machine does not have the greatest graphics card (and as it's an imac so it cant be upgraded). Therefor if the FPS is always going to be that slow Eve will be un-playable unless there is an option for us to keep our station spinning. I could not see any option not to load the station background either.

So now instead of looking forward to the release, I am waiting intrepidation of Incarna.


Machine info
OS version: Mac OS X 10.5.8
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo, 2.8 GHz
GPU: ATI,RadeonHD2600 VRAM (Total): 256 MB
RAM: 4 GB

Tautut
Amarr
Posted - 2011.05.28 16:05:00 - [2]
 

I was planning on switching this off anyway as I can't see the point in it tbh - sad to hear that it's not going to be possible.

Vincent Athena
Posted - 2011.05.29 15:53:00 - [3]
 

I think they have not yet clicked the "optimize" box on the compiler. Compiling a code with the optimizer running takes alot longer, si they most likely delay that until the TQ deployment. So hopefully we will get more fps.

Otherwise, Im not sure low fps can be considered a "bug", but anything stopping you from playing the game can be bug reported.

Lederstrumpf
Posted - 2011.05.31 07:30:00 - [4]
 

I don't remember Radeon cards to be supported at all.

Ribeye Deusortus
Posted - 2011.05.31 07:33:00 - [5]
 

welcome to the 21st century, get a nice computer!

Vincent Athena
Posted - 2011.06.02 16:48:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Vincent Athena on 02/06/2011 17:03:21
They released a new version of Incarna on Sisi. But it does not work for me on my MBP. As soon as it tries to load the station environment, it crashes. If my pilot is docked, it crashes on entering the game. If the pilot happened to be logged out in space, it crashes on docking.

CCP: I have bug reported it, with a Cider trace log.

Anyone else get it to work?

Edit: Just got this. Hope it leads to a quick fix.

Thank you for your bugreport - ID:111687 Title: Mac: Latest Sisi build crashes on docking
We are already aware of this problem, and have added your bugreport to the existing issue in our defect tracking system.

The BugHunter Team

Tautut
Amarr
Posted - 2011.06.02 19:30:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Vincent Athena
Edited by: Vincent Athena on 02/06/2011 17:03:21
They released a new version of Incarna on Sisi. But it does not work for me on my MBP. As soon as it tries to load the station environment, it crashes. If my pilot is docked, it crashes on entering the game. If the pilot happened to be logged out in space, it crashes on docking.

CCP: I have bug reported it, with a Cider trace log.

Anyone else get it to work?

Edit: Just got this. Hope it leads to a quick fix.

Thank you for your bugreport - ID:111687 Title: Mac: Latest Sisi build crashes on docking
We are already aware of this problem, and have added your bugreport to the existing issue in our defect tracking system.

The BugHunter Team



Vince - do you run a completely separate client for Sisi or just repoint your existing client from tranquility?

Vincent Athena
Posted - 2011.06.02 21:19:00 - [8]
 

I run a completely separate client with its own prefs file (which is now in the "application support" folder).

I also get the Sisi client by a full download of the client, as I got a big pipe here and it takes just a few tens of minutes.

ariana ailith
FreakyTech
Posted - 2011.06.21 23:06:00 - [9]
 

FPS is really really horrible on the login screen of incarna (can't login yet!)
If this is any indication of how it's gonna be i guess i'm gonna need another game to play.

My iMac:
27inch, 2550x1440
8GB ram
Core2Duo 3.06Ghz
HD4670, 256MB

Stuttering screen, FPS flew up and down from 2 to 30 fps.

da go
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:03:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: ariana ailith
FPS is really really horrible on the login screen of incarna (can't login yet!)
If this is any indication of how it's gonna be i guess i'm gonna need another game to play.

My iMac:
27inch, 2550x1440
8GB ram
Core2Duo 3.06Ghz
HD4670, 256MB

Stuttering screen, FPS flew up and down from 2 to 30 fps.
Did you patch or used the full installer? Read the sticky.

AveryFaneActual
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:34:00 - [11]
 

Well... I repeatedly did the ctrl-V pword thing and got in.
CQ is totally inoperable at <10fps- so I turned it off. I really appreciate CCP allowing us to turn off CQ. I might keep it if it worked. looks nice enough.
I undocked, however, to find SPACE as slow as being docked.... not good not good at all
I didn't crash immediately though, which is more than I can say for the last few patches.


Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.5 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz

Zae'dra Xanthe
Minmatar
Scythians
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2011.06.22 00:48:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Zae''dra Xanthe on 22/06/2011 00:52:31
Well, I managed to get past the login screen. FPS were horrific on my MBP, so I had to adjust the graphics settings to their lowest and got it a "little" up to speed. So, I undocked and the game crashed. All of the times I tried to re-enter the game while my ship is in space, the game simply got stuck on the "Entering Space" dialog. No way in hell I'm buying a PC just to run a game. Please fix it guys.

Specs:

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro6,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 2.53 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L3 Cache: 3 MB
Memory: 6 GB
Video: nVidia GeForce GT 330M

BERRY ZILWICKI
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:34:00 - [13]
 

Heck, I cant get the thing to load; get a "verification Failure" notice each time. Not an auspicious start.

da go
Posted - 2011.06.22 01:58:00 - [14]
 

The patch they released was broken. The sticky thread suggests to download the full client.

Also Mandrake made a micro patch that fixes the client if you have broken it by patching.

Tirixie
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.22 04:12:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Ribeye Deusortus
welcome to the 21st century, get a nice computer!


That's just a weak cliched script kiddie response.

His computer isn't from the 20th century by the way.

Moabama
Posted - 2011.06.22 04:23:00 - [16]
 

I could not get it to work either. I tried to download patch, and after time passes and the download finishes, it gives me a failure for verification.

So I went and tried CCP Mandrakes patch fix. It seemed to try to download just fine, but then when the app tried to apply it, is gave me an error saying that the version I had was invalid.

From the reports I have read so far, I am reluctant to load the entire new client since that does not appear to be 100% fix either.

I guess I cannot play until this is fixed.
I am patient, and very understanding, however, I want my days refunded that I cannot play.
(not to mention the time I am losing in training que right now.

Waiting for a REAL fix !!!!

Altara Deteias
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.06.22 13:10:00 - [17]
 

Update to my previous post: I managed to fix the problems, and Eve now runs smoothly both in station and in space. Just optimize your settings for performance, uncheck that "disable lod" thing and play around with the shader / anti-aliasing quality. Alternatively, setting your texture quality to "medium" will do the trick...

One thing I don't understand though... same game on same Mac ran in bootcamp with WinXP installed runs everything on the max levels without any problems. This shouldn't be the case...

Spijun t2
Posted - 2011.06.22 19:52:00 - [18]
 

Well im unnable to connect.
Tryed patchig == 0
Downloaded client 3 times == 0

On end im not able to even start the game, i click on icon, see incarna log in screen than happens nothing.
Saw on EVE gate few of my corp mates decided to stop trying... ranging from win XP, win 7, mac ...
Only from my corp about 8-10 accounts stopped.
I decided i wont even try anymore and use this to stop playing this too addictive game.

For more than year and half didnt saw hisec nor stations and wow walking in them cut this game experience :P
Thats awesome!
Barbie addons with clothing characters i wont even mention..
Well on end could only add this question to CCP:
was it worth?

Aneria pandari
Posted - 2011.06.22 23:21:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Aneria pandari on 22/06/2011 23:24:23
Well it's unplayable with my imac thankfully it is not the machine I really play on, rather it what I log my alt into.

Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac11,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i5
Processor Speed: 3.6 GHz
Memory: 4 GB
Chipset Model: ATI Radeon HD 5670
VRAM (Total): 512 MB

Even with station environment turned off, it lags to hell. I know the GPU isn't great but I also wasn't expecting it would be this bad given it's not that old a model.

oknugb Ohaya
Posted - 2011.06.23 01:47:00 - [20]
 

The new patch is killing my MBP. the fans go on crazy. its much more load aft patch (on full speed 6200rpm), never happen before the patch(even i decrease the detail, before the patch it run on all high details.)

what i want is the old eve back!

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro8,2
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.2 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 8 GB
Boot ROM Version: MBP81.0047.B0E

AMD Radeon HD 6750M:

Chipset Model: AMD Radeon HD 6750M
Type: GPU
Bus: PCIe
PCIe Lane Width: x8
VRAM (Total): 1024 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x6741
Revision ID: 0x0000
ROM Revision: 113-C0170L-521
gMux Version: 1.9.23
EFI Driver Version: 01.00.521

Bobbie Knobb
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:06:00 - [21]
 

hmm...
Well I am running the new mac 12-core with 8gigs ram and the Radeon HD 5870, one of the hottest cards out and I still am having problems with this game.

FIX YOUR **** CCP

Debir Achen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.06.23 02:59:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Debir Achen on 23/06/2011 03:06:54
tl;dr: near-photo quality, near-photo performance

On my Mac: (which, FWIW, is specced above "recommended" specs. Not far, but definitely above)*
- patch destroyed all my saved config, including bookmark folders, window position, overview settings
- CQ sluggish, but animates OK when moving.
- noticeable stuttering on session change. Been like this since recent Incursion 1.0.6 upgrade.
- too much black in UI. I liked the blue; had a nice contrast with space. But space is white and black, brackets are (mostly) white and black, and now all the other interface stuff is - you guessed it - white on black. It all fades into each other.
- text controls lag badly, and cursor selection field behaviour is unpredictable
- science & industry window either doesn't open from neocom, or opens and then doesn't respond to clicks
- window opening noticeably lagged, especially planetary industry
- disabling CQ makes almost no difference to performance. Also throws me slightly when I try to drag background and it does nothing.

I wonder if it's possible to upgrade to Tyrannis 1.0.2? Every patch since then seems to have klutzed up some aspect of performance (although I do prefer the new PI).


* Update: that was two days ago. New "recommended" specs are much higher, but I'm still well above minimum.

Albetta
Gallente
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.06.23 03:25:00 - [23]
 

I don't think I want to play EVE anymore. :(

Malachor Jankor
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.06.23 03:29:00 - [24]
 

Playing on an iMac Pro 13" lap top. Not the optimum gaming machine but it works well enough. My only issue right now is that opening the star map crashes me to desktop pretty much every time. Opening the scanner map does too about 30% of the time. Very frustrating.

SPACE L0RD
Gallente
Posted - 2011.06.23 04:13:00 - [25]
 

I've had awsome results with my hack.

Q6600 @ 3.2ghz/4gb/Radeon HD6870

Following settings:

Fullscreen 2048x1152
Multithreaded OpenGL = yes
Interval = 1
Texture Quality = High
Use LOD = yes
Sun Occluded = off
Pysical Clothes = off (only becuase I read there is a bug in it)
HDR = off
Antialliasing = Low
Post Processing = Low
Shader Quality = High
Texture Quality = High
LOD = High
Interior = Med


With these settings I'm getting a solid 50 - 60 FPS in QC when not moving. When walking around like to the hangar and back to the couch between 32 - 55 fps (average 40fps).

In space I get a solid 55 - 60 FPS (all effects on) even around lots of other shops and objects like a POS. Looking forward to testing more in a large fleet.

One fact I found very intersting is that when I go to Windowed Mode at 1600x900, I actually loose 10-20fps across the board. Not sure why that is. In past clients, windowed mode would provide a small boost.


Anyway - Great job CCP and Thanks.


Bobbie Knobb
Posted - 2011.06.23 05:23:00 - [26]
 

Space Lord must be a CCP alt lol.


HORRID PATCH....FIX IT

Suhan Tet
Posted - 2011.06.23 06:24:00 - [27]
 

MacPro 3.1. Quad core 2.8. 4GB RAM.
ATI Radeon HD 2600
Mac OS X 10.6.7

Eve settings all low! ugh

CQ - well I haven't really played with this part as it's so slow that I turned it off.
In space - FPS are all over the place, ranging from 2 FPS to 60 FPS

This is not playable IMO Rolling Eyes

Aneria pandari
Posted - 2011.06.23 06:32:00 - [28]
 

Just an update I made the following changes as per Space Lords post;

Window Mode 1600x900 (just what i use at work)
Multithreaded OpenGL = yes
Interval = 1
Texture Quality = High
Use LOD = yes
Sun Occluded = off
HDR = off
Antialliasing = Low
Post Processing = Low
Shader Quality = High
Texture Quality = High
LOD = High
Shadow Quality = Low
Interior = Med

And I can now turn CQ back on without issue, and all the lag I had before with CQ off is gone.. this is a 1000% improvement.

ariana ailith
FreakyTech
Posted - 2011.06.23 06:33:00 - [29]
 

I too have huge performance problems after incarna.

iMac C2D 3.06Ghz
8GB Ram
ATI 4670 (ish) 256MB @ 2550x1440 (27inch)

I used to be able to play with Med/low settings. Now on all low and all turned off dumbed down graphics it wont go over 5FPS and that's on the login screen!

Since my keyboard won't respond ingame either i can't even log in! (got a petition)
Yes it's a stock Apple Keyboard which works fine for everything else. Not it didn't break!

Fix this game, make a native client if you have to. But this is unacceptable!

Suhan Tet
Posted - 2011.06.23 17:58:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Suhan Tet
MacPro 3.1. Quad core 2.8. 4GB RAM.
ATI Radeon HD 2600
Mac OS X 10.6.7

Eve settings all low! ugh

CQ - well I haven't really played with this part as it's so slow that I turned it off.
In space - FPS are all over the place, ranging from 2 FPS to 60 FPS

This is not playable IMO Rolling Eyes

Update:
Maybe a bit drastic, but I decided to delete all Eve files and download the full client.
With my saved preferences copied across everything is running well and I get any where from 30 through 60 FPS, and that's with medium graphics settings.
I feeling better about Incarna now Wink



 

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