| Author |
Topic |
Lavayar
Gallente
Russian SOBR
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Posted - 2011.06.28 10:05:00 - [ 421]
/supported |
Lexxxii |
Posted - 2011.06.28 11:11:00 - [ 422]
The CSM has been invited to Iceland in a few days time to address the outrage over the MT issue.
It vital that MT’s for game advancing items should never be brought in, but the issue over CQ being mandatory and not having the old hanger with the option to disembark should not be forgotten and swept under the carpet by CCP.
At the very least, confirmation is needed that the option not to load station environments will not be removed.
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Gogenchu
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:14:00 - [ 423]
I would love to see the SAME OPTION THE DEV HAD WHEN HE FIRST SHOWED IT! Make it optional. |
Sobaan Tali
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:28:00 - [ 424]
Edited by: Sobaan Tali on 28/06/2011 11:28:50
When the Devs showed us this, they had the option as a button in the traditional hanger view. I said, "Well, I'll go along with it so long as that system comes with it." What's the one thing they left out? That ****ing button. TRADITIONAL HANGER...right now.
Oh and, say no MT as well. (sorry, had to say it, sorry) |
Sascha Naskingar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.28 11:45:00 - [ 425]
Support this |
Captain Bevier
Gallente
Danneskjold Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.28 14:00:00 - [ 426]
Supported |
Cletus Graeme
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.28 14:03:00 - [ 427]
Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 28/06/2011 14:09:51 Originally by: Soden Rah
I LIKE the idea of CQ, I JUST want it to be optional.
This. Docking is optional. Undocking is optional. Entering lowsec is optional. Entering 0.0 is optional. Entering Wormholes is optional. Mining is optional. Manufacturing is optional. Invention is optional. Trading is optional. Exploration is optional. Selling PLEX is optional. Running missions is optional. Belt ratting is optional. Doing plexes is optional. Doing sanctums is optional. Maintaining a POS is optional. Holding space is optional. Factional Warfare is optional. Planetary Interaction is optional. Fighting off Incursions is optional. Heck, even entering Jita is optional :D. I think you see the pattern. Please stop messing with my sandbox CCP. |
Rrama Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.06.28 14:07:00 - [ 428]
/signed |
Pedro Carnicero
Amarr
Hartes Beton
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Posted - 2011.06.28 14:12:00 - [ 429]
I support |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.28 16:30:00 - [ 430]
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Shaira Skatan
Serenity Prime
Cascade Probable
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Posted - 2011.06.29 00:33:00 - [ 431]
Originally by: Soden Rah
a neocom button to enable us to disembark to enter CQ when we want.
Here here, I second this motion. This makes far more sense from a lore/immersion point of view than un-podding and taking a shower every single time you dock up, when usually all you want to do is drop some cargo, transfer your pod to another ship, re-fit, repair, collect your purchased goods, drop off a delivery... yada yada yada!  |
Henry Dorset Case
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Posted - 2011.06.29 02:43:00 - [ 432]
Fully support the notion of making disembarking optional.
Like many people who support this I like CQ and eagerly anticipate where it is going, but frankly making it optional fits better with the lore, fits better for performance, and lastly and potentially most importantly fits better with what all the people in this thread and likely
many many more want.
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namelessclone01
Caldari
blackbox ops
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:09:00 - [ 433]
/signed bring the old hangar functionality back. showing us the door is simply insulting. ps: i think it's time to buy me a supercap and never be subjected to CQ again. |
ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS |
Posted - 2011.06.29 03:57:00 - [ 434]
Edited by: ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS on 29/06/2011 03:59:18
I just found this thread today. CCP you make me very very angry. People told you time and time again to leave it alone. I've even read threads that say they saw it running via a dev, before it was released to the public, the way it should be...SPACE>HANGAR>WIS. You intentionally did not change it to sell monocles and it backfired on you. The eve community is not like WoW or whatever other MMO. The majority of your player base is intelligent. So now the choice is up to you. Are you going to sell enough monocles and trinckets to cover the unsubs or not? We will see. Don't look too good. I've already unsubbed all my accounts. If I can't opt out of INCARNA im done in AUG when my subscriptions run out. Will resub once i can opt out of the dollhouse. |
Oedepus
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:06:00 - [ 435]
/Supported
Just because something is optional doesn't mean we won't use it. SPECIALLY! if you make something worth doing with intresting and productive game play. But, However, Also, it should be my choice if I wish to quickly dock up and deal with my ship or if I want to dock up and exit my pod to venture into the station.
And as a developer you can't tell me that that code is already gone, you never completely delete code!!! It could be a simple preference setting as to which docking environment I want to default to and a button to switch between the environments in station.
I think it's pretty sorry that we have lost direct ship interaction with Incarna and now have to work through buttons windows and menus for stuff we used to be able to handle direclty by clicking or right clicking on our ship.
The goal of any software UI enhancement is to provide a better user experiance! Not to take away efficient and regularly used features which makes client interaction easier. Don't complicate things that don't need to be complicated.
CCP please use KISS!
I'm sure someone at CCP knows what that means. Even if they don't use it!
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Ilandrin Yona
Allied Harvesting
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Posted - 2011.06.29 04:21:00 - [ 436]
I agree. We should have options. Variety makes the game better. |
Gevlin
Minmatar
Lone Star Exploration
Lone Star Partners |
Posted - 2011.06.29 04:25:00 - [ 437]
After the explanation of the intregration of the incarna into the eve's make up it is like saying no you can't go the the left hand of the map.
As the way as it sits, you can just stand at your belcony.
So I guess that can be optional
but in the flavor of this thread I disagree.
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Cloora
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.06.29 05:20:00 - [ 438]
Edited by: Cloora on 29/06/2011 05:22:47
i have to fully support this as a multiboxer.
CCP you want me to run my 5 accounts on my 3 computers right? That's a lot fo money for you guys. I have spent $3200 on 4 accounts over 5 years.
Well my super duper main computer can run 2 clients at full tilt but FPS falls to about 20. 20FPS looks bad.
My second computer can only run one client docked in medium graphics.
My laptop can only run CQ in the lowest possible settings. I turn it off to make it easier. And its a Dell XPS M1730 laptop.
I can't adjust the graphics everytime I dock, I need to run multiple clients per computer.
I can disable CQ right now but for how long? I hear it is only time before you disable that and I ALWAYS have to disembark from the pod.
As an RPer I wanted Incarna, but you guys did the wrong thing and didn't even keep to the RP of it. You dock your ship and THEN disembark from the pod.
It makes RP sense, it makes game mechanic sense, it makes PR and marketing sense, so WHY IN BLOODY HELL ARE YOU NOT REINSTATING THE STATION VIEW?!
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Final Seraph |
Posted - 2011.06.29 08:58:00 - [ 439]
/supported
a quick dock, collect and undock
or
just the idea of a pod pilot should, well, be in a pod |
Darius Mordecai
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Posted - 2011.06.29 10:55:00 - [ 440]
Supported. It's only logical that leaving your ship and/or pod while in a station should be optional.
Darius Mordecai |
Hekira Soikutsu
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Posted - 2011.06.29 18:48:00 - [ 441]
I love Incarna and CQ but to undergo that unpleasant process of leaving the capsule just to dump cargo in station is somewhat immersion breaking. It is NOT something most people would do because of the extra discomfort for no gain.
Also being the Empyrean being that I am I feel insecure without the insurance of the brainscanner.
If you read the Burning Life you'd understand. |
Uther Tepes
Caldari |
Posted - 2011.06.30 14:41:00 - [ 442]
Supported |
Portmanteau
Gallente
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:44:00 - [ 443]
/support |
Dav Varan
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:47:00 - [ 444]
Supported.
I want to see the ship I am in before I undock.
I dont wanna use CQ all the time as it ****s my video card.
Disable station environment is the only viable option for me atm if using dual clients to maintain the inspace fr If I have an alt docked.
Just because I dock to change ships does no mean I wannna disembark my pod.
Space > Docked > CQ is the logical anwser.
Give us a disembark option in Traditional Spin Ship view to enter CQ,
and give it us NOW.
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ninjaholic
Gallente
House Aratus
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:05:00 - [ 445]
Streamlined & optional CQ supported! |
tojon |
Posted - 2011.06.30 21:00:00 - [ 446]
\ support |
CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic |
Posted - 2011.07.03 18:54:00 - [ 447]
Edited by: CyberGh0st on 03/07/2011 18:57:34This is what the devblog after the CSM meeting had to say : Quote:
The CSM raised concerns with performance running multiple clients after the Incarna launch where the minimum hardware spec will only support one client logged in when in a station environment. CCP will work on creating a minimum hardware spec that supports multiple clients, but wants it to be clear that the current minimum specification aims at single client with low settings.
The CSM helped CCP understand the emotional connection players had with „ship spinning". They vehemently demanded the return of the feature, which CCP committed to introduce in some form at a future date. Until that functionality is added back in, the option to load station environments will remain in the Settings menu.
Hmm why does CCP have to make it so difficult? Just add the old station hangar back and replace the "customize avater" button with a "disembark to CQ" button. I am hopefull after this CCP statement, but still ... Now the CSM statement made me doubt again : Quote:
Captain's Quarters: We discussed the hardware and lighting issues within the CQ and we were satisfied that they were being addressed. We were pleased when Torfi announced that the current "Disabled Incarna Door" will be replaced with an environment that will provide similar functionality and performance to the pre-Incarna Hangar, and this environment will be available until Incarna performance is similar to pre-Incarna performance. While the final details and timelines have not been worked out, ships will once again spin all over New Eden.
uhm, so we will get ship spinning back, but only for a while? altho last bolded and underlined part suggest it will stay again ... hrm ... we need some definitive answers on this ! |
CyberGh0st
Minmatar
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic |
Posted - 2011.07.03 19:00:00 - [ 448]
Originally by: Ghurthe
In 2008's fanfest Torfi showed us a playable demo of Incarna, it had the normal station view and a button that had you leave your ship.
There's no reason we can't have that with CQ.
Exactly this ! |
Kaelie Onren
Minmatar |
Posted - 2011.07.04 04:32:00 - [ 449]
I think they announced that they are adding this back, so I think this topic can be closed. Guess the CSM works afterall :) |
Zeronic
Gallente
Zero Core Labs
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Posted - 2011.07.04 05:13:00 - [ 450]
Edited by: Zeronic on 04/07/2011 05:16:43
Ok I think I have an idea on how you can have both the Hanger and Captain's Quarters. It a simple system, Where in the client settings you have a "Default Station View", It both a "Check Mark" and a "Drop Down". Allowing for neither or your choice of loading by default either the "Captain's Quarters" or "Hanger". Also another button that allow a player to jump between the two without undocking. |
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