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Skogen Gump
The Star Fraction |
Posted - 2011.05.07 01:44:00 - [ 151]
 Originally by: Amber Accelerando
Jump Gate is never coming out, unfortunately
Citation ? |
JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group |
Posted - 2011.05.07 07:02:00 - [ 152]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Guilliman R
Hey look, Black proficy has:
- Real looking asteroid belts/fields
Really? From what I've seen, it has the same horrible debris thickets as every other space game (and movie) out there.
A "real looking asteroid belt" would be a lonely rock with its nearest neighbour several million kilometres away. If you notice that there is an asteroid belt, it's not "real looking".
Lol this is something that was mentioned on a discivery channel show just a week or two ago. They were talking about how in the movies the tight clusters of asteroids in belts is far from accurate. And that even while standing on an asteroid in the thickest belts in space, the next closest roid would still be so far away that it looks like a tiny dot in the distance. I actually thought the movie depiction of asteroid belts was correct until I saw that. |
Tullaris Iceblade |
Posted - 2011.05.07 22:27:00 - [ 153]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
The best kind of trolls are the trolls that are up their own arse, its just funny to watch them flip out 
I'm sorry if i'm telling you your only reason for living is broken, its just a fact!
Mate you are the biggest troll on this website. I have never seen you add a constructive or intelligent post to any thread on this forum. I guess that's the way you like it, for myself it's a mentality I just don't understand. |
Jenny Cameron
Caldari
Ordo Eventus
Inception Alliance |
Posted - 2011.05.07 22:46:00 - [ 154]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
EvE is a broken game, yet the idea is good, with a little work it could be the BEST MMORPG on the internet, but there is one major problem standing in the way.. CCP.
Well I can't say I 100% disagree with this. EVE could be a GREAT game, one of the greatest around. |
Uglavitch Nefrex
Minmatar
Republic Military School
|
Posted - 2011.05.07 22:56:00 - [ 155]
I like how eve is now :D |
Shawna Gray
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.05.08 00:36:00 - [ 156]
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
EvE is a broken game, yet the idea is good, with a little work it could be the BEST MMORPG on the internet, but there is one major problem standing in the way.. CCP.
It already is. The others are boring grindfests. No other gaming company could take over EVE as they have shown time and time again that they dont want to be different. Sadly EVE still has no competition and will remain the only mmorpg worth playing for quite some time. |
Bustin Jieber |
Posted - 2011.05.08 03:14:00 - [ 157]
Edited by: Bustin Jieber on 08/05/2011 03:14:34Edited by: Bustin Jieber on 08/05/2011 03:14:13 Originally by: Shawna Grey
Sadly EVE still has no competition and will remain the only mmorpg worth playing for quite some time.
Which is ultimately bad for the game. If CCP had to actually compete directly with another sci-fi mmorpg they wouldn't be able to get away with most of the crap they do now. |
Shawna Gray
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.05.08 08:56:00 - [ 158]
Originally by: Bustin Jieber
Edited by: Bustin Jieber on 08/05/2011 03:14:34
Edited by: Bustin Jieber on 08/05/2011 03:14:13
Originally by: Shawna Grey
Sadly EVE still has no competition and will remain the only mmorpg worth playing for quite some time.
Which is ultimately bad for the game. If CCP had to actually compete directly with another sci-fi mmorpg they wouldn't be able to get away with most of the crap they do now.
Sure it would be good with some competition. Selling the only mmo worth playing to gaming companies that produce the **** that is other mmo's wont change this. CCP is still the best mmo company as without them mmo's would be oh so boring. I'd rather complain about why the other gaming companies insist on copying wow and other grindfest mmo's. |
Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 10:21:00 - [ 159]
Edited by: Ak''athra J''ador on 08/05/2011 10:24:14While there is no competition for eve out there (with so many wow clones I have no idea why someone does not make an eve clone) the op s right. CCP is an incompetent company which is ruining eve. Look at the last few expansions. When they said colonizing planets did you honestly think about pins and lines? I have no idea how oveur can go and say three AAA teams now work on eve yet they continue to release that kind of crap. I don't even understand how they could have the guts to release that pin-**** and call it an expansion. look at the last forum ****up. It wasn't on a "everyone makes mistakes" level Incarna was sc****d and restarted what...three times by now? With the money they spent on that they could have bought the engine and we would by now have full blown incarna. You do realize it took other game companies less time to develop more successful games, than it took CCP to release a single player avatar expansion? Go read reviews on glasdoor about what is it like to work for CCP and you will see some srlsy ****ed up **** like:"It may not be easy to understand as an outsider, but if you are not an icelander your promotion paths simply do not depend on your professionalism or your performance reviews" When such companies make it big like CCP did, they move to either the states or europe or asia or some other developed part of the world I am forgetting, so they can continue to develop. Especially when the country the company is based in goes bankrupt. This means you can only select programmers and developers from a very limited pool of people. Those willing to work in a bankrupt country for a currency with no value. good luck with your pension fund. And I have nothing against Iceland, I think its a beautiful place but as far as the future of eve is concerned its not the right place. Of course CCP will never sell eve, I didn't say they were stupid, just incompetent. As much as it might be in the interest of eve, it isn't in the interest of CCP. perhaps their next yearly slogan should be "competence" |
Shawna Gray
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.05.08 10:56:00 - [ 160]
Edited by: Shawna Gray on 08/05/2011 10:56:54 Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
CCP is an incompetent company which is ruining eve.
Since they have made a game that has kept me playing for around 6 years they are clearly not incompetent. Very few games have kept my interest that long. Quote:
When such companies make it big like CCP did, they move to either the states or europe or asia or some other developed part of the world I am forgetting, so they can continue to develop.
Iceland is a part of Europe. Iceland is not a third world country. They have also expanded to atlanta (and china). |
Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.05.08 12:14:00 - [ 161]
Edited by: Hyperforce99 on 08/05/2011 13:18:15I'm actually suprized Joe hasn't responded to my comment yet on page 4... I feel left out  Quote:
However seems your bitter for some reason, and most likely it's the same thing everyone is bitter about, CCP's lack of new content.
Frankly, I'm quite happy CCP is finally adressing the smaller issues of the game for once. |
Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 13:01:00 - [ 162]
Edited by: Ak''athra J''ador on 08/05/2011 13:04:42 Originally by: Shawna Gray
Edited by: Shawna Gray on 08/05/2011 10:56:54
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
CCP is an incompetent company which is ruining eve.
Since they have made a game that has kept me playing for around 6 years they are clearly not incompetent. Very few games have kept my interest that long.
Nobody is arguing that. The opp even said that. I also agree that they made an awesome game. Heck a bunch of students working without pay for months, you gotta give mad props to that. The idea alone is so awesome it...getting of topic. The point is that bunch of students obviously could not leave the game as it was, nor could they leave the company as it was. The game had to be evolved and the studio had to grow. Into a professional studio. But it didn't. And we are left with an incompetent bunch who can no longer do for eve what it deserves. That is why the op said sell. He did not ask/hope for another company to make an eve clone, because the idea we have here is awesome, CCP just fails to deliver. Originally by: Shawna Gray
Edited by: Shawna Gray on 08/05/2011 10:56:54
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
When such companies make it big like CCP did, they move to either the states or europe or asia or some other developed part of the world I am forgetting, so they can continue to develop.
Iceland is a part of Europe. Iceland is not a third world country.
I never said it was, but its irrelevant if we want to talk about the future of eve and its development. I live in Slovenia which is in the european union and uses euros, it still makes it a bad location for such a studio. Take another quote from glassdoor if you want:"It should be noted that a local bank account is a required part of employment, due to the financial situation in Iceland this presents issues should employees wish to save money in a none icelandic foreign account as restrictions on money transfers in Euro apply from local authorities." it goes on to talk about pension problems You cant deny the fact that it is limiting the potential development options for eve Originally by: Shawna Gray
They have also expanded to atlanta (and china).
And England (newcastle I believe). Good for them, good for CCP that is, but those studios don't deal with eve. And while you could argue that DUST 514 will be a part of the eve universe, to work on eve you have to go to the Iceland studio, and you cant deny the limits that puts on the development of eve. Can I assume that by selective quoting only these two parts of my post we agree with the rest? cause if all of that crap I wrote actually turns out to be true we are truly ****ed... edit: messed up the qoute blocks... |
Shawna Gray
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.05.08 13:39:00 - [ 163]
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
Into a professional studio. But it didn't. And we are left with an incompetent bunch who can no longer do for eve what it deserves.
That is why the op said sell. He did not ask/hope for another company to make an eve clone, because the idea we have here is awesome, CCP just fails to deliver.
As long as i'm still playing CCP must be doing a lot of stuff right. Any other company would destroy EVE's soul. If i heard EVE was sold i'd probably quit soon after. Quote:
I never said it was, but its irrelevant if we want to talk about the future of eve and its development.
You said: "when such companies make it big like CCP did, they move to either the states or europe or asia". As long as Iceland is in europe your statement is wrong. If you didnt mean europe but something else then say so. Quote:
Take another quote from glassdoor if you want:"It should be noted that a local bank account is a required part of employment, due to the financial situation in Iceland this presents issues should employees wish to save money in a none icelandic foreign account as restrictions on money transfers in Euro apply from local authorities."
I dont care what some anonymous guy on some website says. I dont care what CCP offers their workers. I just play the game as long as i have fun doing so, and quit when it stops beeing fun. If they manage to make a game this good while having such "terrible conditions" it just makes me more impressed by CCP. Quote:
Can I assume that by selective quoting only these two parts of my post we agree with the rest?
No I just didnt care enough to respond to it. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives |
Posted - 2011.05.08 14:25:00 - [ 164]
Originally by: Uglavitch Nefrex
I like how eve is now :D
I think I could charge you £/$100 for a **** sandwich and you'd gladly buy it |
Anne Arqui
Minmatar
Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 14:43:00 - [ 165]
I agree with Ak'athra J'ador. |
Hieronimus Rex
Minmatar
Infinitus Sapientia
Hav0k. |
Posted - 2011.05.08 16:07:00 - [ 166]
Has any solvent company ever sold an active, growing MMO? |
Brema Gangrel
Caldari
Drama Llamas
|
Posted - 2011.05.08 16:12:00 - [ 167]
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
And England (newcastle I believe). Good for them, good for CCP that is, but those studios don't deal with eve. And while you could argue that DUST 514 will be a part of the eve universe, to work on eve you have to go to the Iceland studio, and you cant deny the limits that puts on the development of eve.
Can I assume that by selective quoting only these two parts of my post we agree with the rest? cause if all of that crap I wrote actually turns out to be true we are truly ****ed...
edit: messed up the qoute blocks...
I do believe that CCP atlanta and CCP Shanghai *have* put work towards previous Eve Online expansions, and that they still do... either providing art work, or story lines. The bulk of the work though does indeed get done in Iceland. The sign of a succesful studio is should *never* be based upon where they are located. ((Note: each studio has their quirks... you would think that when a company tests its games with ALL of its employees (over 600 people internally) that the game would be good... Tell that to NCsoft ;) )) |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol |
Posted - 2011.05.08 16:46:00 - [ 168]
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 08/05/2011 16:49:40 Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
Look at the last few expansions. When they said colonizing planets did you honestly think about pins and lines? I have no idea how oveur can go and say three AAA teams now work on eve yet they continue to release that kind of crap. I don't even understand how they could have the guts to release that pin-**** and call it an expansion.
look at the last forum ****up. It wasn't on a "everyone makes mistakes" level
Incarna was sc****d and restarted what...three times by now? With the money they spent on that they could have bought the engine and we would by now have full blown incarna.
You do realize it took other game companies less time to develop more successful games, than it took CCP to release a single player avatar expansion?
I fully agree with this. While EVE has tremendous potential, it's hardly developed, alsmost like the developers don't really know what to do. The PI clickfest an "expansion" .. it's a bit pretentious, it hardly adds anything (interesting or exciting) to your day to day gameplay. A forum of course isn't an expansion nor game content. Automated events and new portraits as an expansion .. I can live with it. What I see far too often is an alpha/beta release on Sisi, after which CCP doesn't seem to read the feedback and suggestions and bugs, fixes a small amount of things and releases it. After a while and a lot of posts they decide to partially fix it and that's it. A strange policy imo, why not test things thoroughly and release the final product? And also frustrating for the players/costumers who can see how it could have been but never will be, like we can see in FW. Imo it's a bit sad. |
Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.05.08 17:21:00 - [ 169]
Originally by: Hieronimus Rex
Has any solvent company ever sold an active, growing MMO?
Don't know of any example and if you ask me it isn't even possible Originally by: Shawna Gray
As long as i'm still playing CCP must be doing a lot of stuff right.
Well no, it just means they are doing enough to keep you playing. Don't get me wrong, they keep the rest of us playing as well. Doesn't change the fact the game deserves better. Originally by: Shawna Gray
Any other company would destroy EVE's soul.
You mean like introduce microtransactions? Originally by: Shawna Gray
If i heard EVE was sold i'd probably quit soon after.
Well I am sorry but that is just irrational. You cant know if we wound end up with a better or worse game. It would make sense to see what the new company does with it, and only stop playing if it goes down a route you disagree with. Originally by: Shawna Gray
You said: "when such companies make it big like CCP did, they move to either the states or europe or asia". As long as Iceland is in europe your statement is wrong. If you didnt mean europe but something else then say so.
Touché, you got me on that one  . I meant a part of the world where the company could develop without limitations. Originally by: Shawna Gray
I dont care what some anonymous guy on some website says.
good, so you probably wont comment on this any further Originally by: Shawna Gray
I dont care what CCP offers their workers.
so close... Well then get the **** out of this debate? Because it turns out it matters for the game. Originally by: Shawna Gray
I just play the game as long as i have fun doing so, and quit when it stops beeing fun.
Good for you, but some of us want more. And if you don't care, why post here? Originally by: Shawna Gray
If they manage to make a game this good while having such "terrible conditions" it just makes me more impressed by CCP.
You still don't get what some of us have been trying to say for a while now. Yes, the game is this good. We agree on that. But some of us think it could be better. |
Shawna Gray
Gallente |
Posted - 2011.05.08 18:23:00 - [ 170]
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
Well I am sorry but that is just irrational. You cant know if we wound end up with a better or worse game. It would make sense to see what the new company does with it, and only stop playing if it goes down a route you disagree with.
I base it on the fact that no other game companies are even trying to compete with EVE. They are simply not interested in making games for EVE's target audience. They dont have the balls to make a niche game or they are not allowed to by the money men. |
Alexander Angelos |
Posted - 2011.05.08 21:13:00 - [ 171]
Srsly mate, Black Prophecy? I've been on the CBT and it isn't nearly as close to compete with EVE. Although, EVE has some of it's flaws... |
Amatory Amarr |
Posted - 2011.05.08 21:44:00 - [ 172]
They should sell a slightly modified clone of EVE to Bioware and let it be the space part of SWTOR! Yeah.. |
JC Anderson
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group |
Posted - 2011.05.09 00:51:00 - [ 173]
I think their expansion to Atlanta was purely as a result of the White Wolf merger.
Or at least I am assuming so due to the fact that Atlanta was WW's headquarters prior to that. |
Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel |
Posted - 2011.05.09 14:18:00 - [ 174]
so, no response from Joe (also no new posts), did he get banned? (one can but hope, right?) |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar |
Posted - 2011.05.09 14:34:00 - [ 175]
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
so, no response from Joe (also no new posts), did he get banned? (one can but hope, right?)
Prolly has a 9-5 and doesn't post when he could be playing (nights & weekends), only from his cubicle somewhere. |
Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel |
Posted - 2011.05.09 14:54:00 - [ 176]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
so, no response from Joe (also no new posts), did he get banned? (one can but hope, right?)
Prolly has a 9-5 and doesn't post when he could be playing (nights & weekends), only from his cubicle somewhere.
That doesn't seem to fit with his previous posting history, but you could be right. Personally, still hoping another troll got a ban :) |
Jaik7 |
Posted - 2011.05.09 15:27:00 - [ 177]
i used to play a game called freelancer. it was capable of the mmo awesome on the scale that EVE has, but it was not developed by the parent company. it fell on players to expand the game. the overall population took a severe hit when Microsoft shut down the global server, requiring players to come up with a mod that would allow them to continue to connect. this game, intended as a single player game, was capable of imitating MMOs developed as MMOs like EVE.
If Microsoft continued to support Freelancer, introducing expansions and continuing internet service,
If the servers were designed in such a way that did not split up the playerbase,
If the current, flawed game had a greater population,
Then i would be playing that game and not Eve.
I persoannly believe that any single player game based around exploring a massive world, like the elder scrolls series or freelancer, can be made into an excellent MMO. however, all those games have to retain the feeling of you discovering stuff for the first time ever. otherwise, it becomes a guided tour, "And here you get to kill the same dragon everyone else has! would you like to read a strategy guide on how to kill the dragon while unlocking the achievemnet?"
EVE online crowdsources content. instead of having scripts people run through like DDO or WOW, people fight each other. This crates what that trailer called "The Sandbox", and it keeps the gameplay from getting too stale. THATS what i want in an MMO, and that's the only thing that EVE delivers that i've not found in other games.
i hope i've contributed something more to this thread than the 'ur a trolololol' 'no u!' we've seen so far. |
Murtal Liven |
Posted - 2011.05.09 17:27:00 - [ 178]
Originally by: Tippia
They're pretty crappy.
But so is every alternative
Valve. On-topic, I find EvE to be fun and completely unique within the MMO market and don't see myself leaving anytime soon. I've been playing for 5-6 months and there's still the universe to explore and multiple professions and activities to try. |
Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente
University of Caille |
Posted - 2011.05.09 20:07:00 - [ 179]
I'm 100% sure the CCP devs like to irritate and annoy their playerbase far too much to ever even consider selling their game. |
Semra Grandier |
Posted - 2011.05.09 20:46:00 - [ 180]
CCP is doing exactly what it needs to be doing. I do not want EVE to become a twitch game. I do not want a space fighter game. EVE is more than that. I can PVP, PVE, mine, explore, become a tycoon, or do whatever. I like that. CCP keep it up.
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