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robohunterx
Caldari
Black Mesa
Posted - 2011.04.11 00:55:00 - [1]
 

Hm, so as I sit back after a rather long day of doing household shenanigans, I was going to jump on Eve and relax for a bit, you know do some nice mining or something like that. Well that would be nice and all, if I could even access my fittings. Attempt one started with the feeling of "Ugh, I have to condense my 131 fittings into 50. Eh, I need to clean them up anyways." Well after picking out 40 odd fittings that I truly needed to save, I hit OK, then again, and again. Nothing, so I decided to close out the window and try again. Attempt two, three, and four were the same things. So I simply gave up on the subject and decided to come rage on the old forums for a bit, as the New ones are broken. (Much like this fitting feature) Anyways why on earth would CCP want to reduce our fitting possibilities down to 50? Then, limit us with the fun feature of "EXPORT and IMPORT" as our only option to get old fits. I guess if the player base gives CCP enough crap about this subject, they might fix it, might not, but as of this moment my entire fittings window is useless.

So CCP, can't you simply:
1 - Add the old local feature back
2 - Simply add a check mark tick, the same as the corp fitting tick, to the fitting window
3 - Shut people up like me?

Just my two isk on the problem, now quit reading this and actualy FIX IT! Confused

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.04.11 00:58:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: robohunterx
... now quit reading this and actualy FIX IT! Confused


Don't fret its been added to the 'to be fixed' queue. It is quite a looong queue however.

C.

Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
Posted - 2011.04.11 00:59:00 - [3]
 

dear roboidiot,

Those fittings are stored server side rather than on your computer, freeing up much space and cpu on your end.

PS if you have 131 fittings you are doing it wrong

Shema Kiloonen Chastot
Posted - 2011.04.11 01:02:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Shema Kiloonen Chastot on 11/04/2011 01:03:44
Edited by: Shema Kiloonen Chastot on 11/04/2011 01:03:30
Originally by: Ai Mei
dear roboidiot,

Those fittings are stored server side rather than on your computer, freeing up much space and cpu on your end.

PS if you have 131 fittings you are doing it wrong


Hm, nice into, really sets the mood for this reply :P

Well for one, I would always make newer fits, like new versions of older fits, then test them out. I was never bothered to really clean them up. For two, yeah, thats a MASSIVE 876KB my settings under my TQ cache is taking up lol. Three, free up CPUU? What?

P.S. Accidently replied to this on my Alt, fail Rolling Eyes

Irani Firecam
Posted - 2011.04.11 01:04:00 - [5]
 

Why do you even have 131 fittings?

robohunterx
Caldari
Black Mesa
Posted - 2011.04.11 01:06:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Irani Firecam
Why do you even have 131 fittings?


Stated above, I haven't "Taken out the trash" with some of my old, unused fittings.

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2011.04.11 01:13:00 - [7]
 

thankfully only 70 or so of mine were actually in game at the time

but if u go thru my EFT i could easily have over 200


i have troll fits, newbs fits, T2 fits, officer lolz fits, deadspace plausable fits, "how much cargo space does a freighter have again?" fits, and fits made different purposes like PVE, 0.0, WHs, solo PVP, gang PVP

MrCue
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.04.11 02:31:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: MrCue on 11/04/2011 02:31:22
There is no limit to how many you can store at BattleClinic

robohunterx
Caldari
Black Mesa
Posted - 2011.04.11 02:53:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: MrCue
Edited by: MrCue on 11/04/2011 02:31:22
There is no limit to how many you can store at BattleClinic


True that, but half of mine are fail-fits anyways :P.
I just want the old way back, Or a working "cloud" type feature for CCP to use, sort've like "steamcloud" from Steam if you will?

Mistress Motion
Posted - 2011.04.11 03:04:00 - [10]
 

TBH, what the hell is the idea to keep fittings in server? That's a stupidest idea ever. Shouldn't it be a priority to take everything unnecessary off the servers to help with lag etc.? And then they put FITTINGS to the server. Like, what the hell is the idea in that? Why can't they be within the client in the client computer?

Seen many stupid things in my internetz life, but this is in top 10.ugh

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.04.11 04:44:00 - [11]
 

Do you really need access to more than FIFTY different fits at a moment's notice?

I suspect not.

Alt-tabbing out and opening up a fit in EFT takes literally 10 seconds. HTFU.

Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.04.11 04:45:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Batolemaeus on 11/04/2011 04:46:16
Originally by: Irani Firecam
Why do you even have 131 fittings?


I can fly more ships than that. Every single subcap in game..One or two fittings for the most used ships. WAY over 50 individual fittings..

I don't get why they couldn't have made it a hybrid system. Unlimited storage client side and a tickbox for "store serverside". Donesky.

Teranul
Posted - 2011.04.11 04:50:00 - [13]
 

I greatly appreciate the ability to reformat my hard drive without having to worry about backing up all my EVE-related files, thank you very much.

Also playing EVE on different computers etc.

FeralShadow
NME1
Posted - 2011.04.11 04:50:00 - [14]
 

I have approximately 7 fittings. Of those 7, I use none of them.

I know how to fit ships without looking at EFT, and without having to have a reference. It's a good skill to have :)

knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
Posted - 2011.04.11 05:29:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Jovan Geldon
Do you really need access to more than FIFTY different fits at a moment's notice?

I suspect not.

Alt-tabbing out and opening up a fit in EFT takes literally 10 seconds. HTFU.


I often look at fits that people post in channels and save them for further investigating, I can also fly every subcap in eve so more than 50 is pretty handy. For some ships like the myrm I've got a dozen different fits for it and most others that I use daily have at least 2 fits.

I do use eft but this new feature removes functionality instead of adding it. I shouldn't have to fall back on a 3rd party tool to keep fits. And yes, sometimes I'm in a hurry to fit a ship.

Irani Firecam
Posted - 2011.04.11 05:33:00 - [16]
 

You could just have your ships already fitted, instead of scrambling to fit a ship.

Jacque Cruix
Posted - 2011.04.11 05:39:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Jacque Cruix on 11/04/2011 05:42:11
131 fittings, really?
I agree we should have unlimited local, but 131 fittings, really?

This kind of throws me back to the skill queue whines when I ponder the days we didn't have one.
131 fittings, really?


edit: I'm calling this one of those edge cases; way way over the edge.

Caldari 5
Amarr
The Element Syndicate
Blazing Angels Alliance
Posted - 2011.04.11 06:50:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Batolemaeus
Edited by: Batolemaeus on 11/04/2011 04:46:16
Originally by: Irani Firecam
Why do you even have 131 fittings?


I can fly more ships than that. Every single subcap in game..One or two fittings for the most used ships. WAY over 50 individual fittings..

I don't get why they couldn't have made it a hybrid system. Unlimited storage client side and a tickbox for "store serverside". Donesky.


Fully agree, I can fly every T1 SubCap and most Amarrian T2.
Considering that I on an average probably have 5 or 6 fits per ship you can imagine that this adds up very quickly.

Considering that most probably have at least these fits for most of their ships:
PvE Short Range
PvE Long Range
PvP Short Range
PvP Long Range

That's 4 fittings per ship that they fly straight off the bat without any extras

50 is definitely not enough fittings.

Calistai Huranu
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.04.11 07:13:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Caldari 5
Originally by: Batolemaeus
Edited by: Batolemaeus on 11/04/2011 04:46:16
Originally by: Irani Firecam
Why do you even have 131 fittings?


I can fly more ships than that. Every single subcap in game..One or two fittings for the most used ships. WAY over 50 individual fittings..

I don't get why they couldn't have made it a hybrid system. Unlimited storage client side and a tickbox for "store serverside". Donesky.


Fully agree, I can fly every T1 SubCap and most Amarrian T2.
Considering that I on an average probably have 5 or 6 fits per ship you can imagine that this adds up very quickly.

Considering that most probably have at least these fits for most of their ships:
PvE Short Range
PvE Long Range
PvP Short Range
PvP Long Range

That's 4 fittings per ship that they fly straight off the bat without any extras

50 is definitely not enough fittings.


Bar a few subcap's in much the same boat, having to slim my fitting's down to 50 was a bad joke. Remembering every ship fit we use and not making market ****-up's when purchasing fitting's is why most of us keep so many shipfits saved.
Ease of use.
Oh well, :CCP: Looks like we're back to notepads again..

Tanya Elaine O'Siodhachai
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.04.11 07:33:00 - [20]
 

Currently my Main can fly All Amarr sub caps (t2-t3 included) except logistics. Most Caldari ships upto the Scorpion. Most Gallente ships upto Battle Cruisers (working towards BS's). She can even fly Minmatar ships upto Cruisers, though watching the rust fly off in warp scares her some.

4 Races, somewhat over 50 different ships available to me, and I have multiple fits for all of them that are dependent on the type of situation I am likely to fly into. However, not trusting CCP to be reasonable. I have each exported and saved on a flash drive as well in EFT.

It isn't very difficult to end up with over 50 fits if you fly or can fly over 20 different ships. being able to fly over 50 different ships means what? You guessed it.Rolling Eyes

Sarmatiko
Posted - 2011.04.11 09:06:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Sarmatiko on 11/04/2011 09:09:41
I stored about 250 different fittings to answer newbie questions in my language channel. Creating or searching fitting every time when fresh newbie asks for pvp/pve fit of <put your spaceship name here> is really pain in the ass.
I can restrict personal fittngs on server to 50 its no problem. But if I want to quick access to my "local" draft fittings, why restrict me?

Also importing fitting from newly created xml and unchecking about 200+ checkboxes to choose only one forces me to commit suicide in the most painful way. Evil or Very Mad

Ban Doga
Posted - 2011.04.11 09:42:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Ai Mei
dear roboidiot,

Those fittings are stored server side rather than on your computer, freeing up much space and cpu on your end.

PS if you have 131 fittings you are doing it wrong


BWAUAHAHAHA.
"freeing up much space and cpu"?
Wow, you must be an expert, eh?

Files stored on your computer do not consume CPU per se.
Fittings don't take much space. (seriously have you ever looked at one of the exported fittings?)

This change was for the convenience of the user, not for performance optimization.

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.04.11 09:52:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Mistress Motion
TBH, what the hell is the idea to keep fittings in server? That's a stupidest idea ever.

..

Seen many stupid things in my internetz life, but this is in top 10.ugh


Actually it is a very good idea.

Especially since you can switch computers etc. without having to worry that your settings are inaccessable. They are stored on the server, that means that the place where you log in doesn't matter. This is a pretty cool feature.

And server load? Lolz, get a clue!

CCP StevieSG

Posted - 2011.04.11 09:54:00 - [24]
 

Moved to features and Ideas from EVE General.

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.04.11 09:57:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Batolemaeus
I don't get why they couldn't have made it a hybrid system. Unlimited storage client side and a tickbox for "store serverside". Donesky.


c

Freezehunter
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.04.11 10:32:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Ai Mei
dear roboidiot,

Those fittings are stored server side rather than on your computer, freeing up much space and cpu on your end.

PS if you have 131 fittings you are doing it wrong


You sir are talking directly out of your ass.

Free up much space? I had 2-4 fittings for every ship in the game and the whole damn thing wasn't larger than 1 MB on my HDD.
Also, free up CPU?

Are you ****ing ******ed?
I love it when ******s call people idiots, it's ironic...

robohunterx
Caldari
Black Mesa
Posted - 2011.04.11 11:38:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Freezehunter
Originally by: Ai Mei
dear roboidiot,

Those fittings are stored server side rather than on your computer, freeing up much space and cpu on your end.

PS if you have 131 fittings you are doing it wrong


You sir are talking directly out of your ass.

Free up much space? I had 2-4 fittings for every ship in the game and the whole damn thing wasn't larger than 1 MB on my HDD.



Also, free up CPU?

Are you ****ing ******ed?
I love it when ******s call people idiots, it's ironic...


I love you xD. Yeah I had the same thoughts about that comment as well, I guess it's an impulsive manner that some people have, with jumping to conclusions. Rolling Eyes I just hope CCP is planning on bringing the old system back. I'm all about efficiency in this game, call me a bean counter, or call me just flat out lazy. It's honestly killing me to not pull up all of my fittings at once. Honestly, I could knock that massive number of trashed fits down to at least 50, that's IF I could, this feature is just broken.

Ayieka
Caldari
Posted - 2011.04.11 12:25:00 - [28]
 

hey, have you guys, uh, heard of this new program called 'eve fitting tool'? i hear you can store all the fittings you want, right on your desktop.

Typhado3
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.11 12:48:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: robohunterx
Originally by: Freezehunter
Originally by: Ai Mei
dear roboidiot,

Those fittings are stored server side rather than on your computer, freeing up much space and cpu on your end.

PS if you have 131 fittings you are doing it wrong


You sir are talking directly out of your ass.

Free up much space? I had 2-4 fittings for every ship in the game and the whole damn thing wasn't larger than 1 MB on my HDD.



Also, free up CPU?

Are you ****ing ******ed?
I love it when ******s call people idiots, it's ironic...


I love you xD. Yeah I had the same thoughts about that comment as well, I guess it's an impulsive manner that some people have, with jumping to conclusions. Rolling Eyes I just hope CCP is planning on bringing the old system back. I'm all about efficiency in this game, call me a bean counter, or call me just flat out lazy. It's honestly killing me to not pull up all of my fittings at once. Honestly, I could knock that massive number of trashed fits down to at least 50, that's IF I could, this feature is just broken.


I think this confirms it... eve server is stored entirely on floppy drives, hence the need for more space.


Jaik7
Posted - 2011.04.11 13:34:00 - [30]
 

i have four or five fittings for my drake. i like being able to just click a butten and throw some modules on instead of finding everything in a rather cluttered hangar.

the reason i have several is for missions. having customized fittings to kill any faction is very nice and ups my effeciency and therfore my isk/hour.

after all, internet spaceships is serious business.


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