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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:57:00 - [31]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 10/04/2011 01:01:05

There was literally nothing I actually used that I liked about the new (temp suspended) forums.
EDIT : sure, there was the functional search, but a) lacking all old content and b) either using evesearch or "<text of search> site:eveonline.com" in google was almost as good.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.04.10 00:58:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: SupaKudoRio
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Spend your time doom saying and eventually one of them might turn out true. So, flame CCP for f-ing up but don't delude yourself in your predictive abilities.
And I'm more broken than most, so just once for me. Laughing
So more of a 24h-clock kind of guy, eh? Razz

Ruziel
Minmatar
Twilight Military Industrial Complex
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:00:00 - [33]
 

Old, by far.

Fredfredbug4
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:02:00 - [34]
 

New, the whole old website feels like something out of the early 2000s. The new one feels so much smoother and is a lot easier to read (especially on mobile devices).

Plus what is this lag people keep talking about? If your computer is to slow to load some text and a fade in effect how the hell do you play EVE? I run the new forums very fast, with EVE, itunes, Opera, and sometimes even Minecraft Multiplayer on. And I don't have a fantastic computer either. It's from 2008, dual core, with only 2G of ram. My internet isn't super fast either.


Daelorn
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:03:00 - [35]
 

I like things from both of them.

I hate how squished everything feels on the new forums though.

Irani Firecam
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:04:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Fredfredbug4
New, the whole old website feels like something out of the early 2000s. The new one feels so much smoother and is a lot easier to read (especially on mobile devices).

Plus what is this lag people keep talking about? If your computer is to slow to load some text and a fade in effect how the hell do you play EVE? I run the new forums very fast, with EVE, itunes, Opera, and sometimes even Minecraft Multiplayer on. And I don't have a fantastic computer either. It's from 2008, dual core, with only 2G of ram. My internet isn't super fast either.



Graphics/system lag is different from the network lag that the 'new' forums was suffering from.

Indy Rider
Amarr
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:05:00 - [37]
 

Old forums by far. The size of the avatar pictures was terrible. Lay out was pathetic, not to mention the rofl worthy security flaw.

Can somoene pod the guy who decided on the new forums?

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:06:00 - [38]
 

These forums look MUCH better and are way more readable. The new ones looked like a highschool or college project gone awry.

Julien Brellier
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:07:00 - [39]
 

Old. There is nothing wrong with them and they WORK.Rolling Eyes

Chinwe Rhei
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:08:00 - [40]
 

New ones if they were working properly.

Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:11:00 - [41]
 

I want to prefer the new ones, but they just don't "read" well, my eyes don't catch any of the text, I think it is the fonts and contrast. I like the possibility of the new ones, but they still have many issues that need to be fixed.

Ford Chicago
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:12:00 - [42]
 

The old forums were difficult to use, had a number of annoying features and were far and away MUCH MUCH BETTER than the new crap CCP has thrown up.

My primary complaint about the new forums is the horrible interface and massive waste of user interface space. The new forums contain some of the worst offenders in terms of human computer interaction and human computer facility imaginable.

Very few people care about the portrait images of characters. There is NO justifiable reason to make them take up that much screen real estate except for CCP artists to show how many pixels their stupid little portraits can take up. There is no way to turn this off or minimize it so that it doesn't waste 25% of the the horizontal space.

Secondly, there is far to much wasting of vertical space. This makes lists of topics and posts within topics much harder to read. Minimizing this space minimizes the amount of eye travel required when scanning forums which is the primary activity of people using internet forums. People don't "read" every word on the forums and certainly not every word in the subject lines. We scan them to find the ones that are personally interesting. Those that are interesting are read in more detail, but if it takes twice as long to read the topics, and twice as many pages to even list the topics because there is so much wasted vertical space, there will be less overall activity because the forums are simply too difficult or time consuming to use.


CCP, please hire someone who knows what they are doing with regards to user interfaces and stop letting the graphic artists use this game and these forums as their personal palate for displaying every stupid pixel that crosses their screen.

Bel Amar
Amarr
Sudden Buggery
Situation: Normal
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:13:00 - [43]
 

New forums for me. The old ones look like crap, and they have no search. Assuming the security issues are taken off the table, then the new ones win hands down for offering a search function and not looking like something developed in 1992.

That being said, if the new forums turn in to a nest of animated smilies, huge sigs and "free likes" threads, then my opinion may change...

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:13:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Irani Firecam
Originally by: Fredfredbug4
New, the whole old website feels like something out of the early 2000s. The new one feels so much smoother and is a lot easier to read (especially on mobile devices).

Plus what is this lag people keep talking about? If your computer is to slow to load some text and a fade in effect how the hell do you play EVE? I run the new forums very fast, with EVE, itunes, Opera, and sometimes even Minecraft Multiplayer on. And I don't have a fantastic computer either. It's from 2008, dual core, with only 2G of ram. My internet isn't super fast either.



Graphics/system lag is different from the network lag that the 'new' forums was suffering from.



For relatively non technical people like me (curious and moderately introduced to concepts but with gaping holes in understanding) it is easiest for me to run a single secruity suite like Norton 360 and have it at pretty high security settings in terms of blocking scripts and pop ups etc. I don't want to think about updating those type of programs more than once every three or four years when i buy a new computer if possible (probably do it once a year)...

well, I think security settings create lag, and rather than lower security settings why not design web sites that don't present content using unecessary glamour packaging of information they're conveying?

Casanunda
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:14:00 - [45]
 

Edited by: Casanunda on 10/04/2011 01:15:44
The new ones looked better with the stylish/greasemonkey plugin someone kindly knocked up for us, in their default format it was bloody horrible.

The forcing us to use eve-gate was kind of pointless to, prior to the new forum going live the only time I accessed it was to lock down all the stuff that should have been locked down in the first place. Eve-gate default privacy settings are pretty much on a par with facebooks, you have no privacy.

I won't repeat what was wrong with them functionality wise, Akita and others have covered pretty much everything.


offtopic Why does my damn avatar have no tattoos? The scars show, the new hair shows I want my tattoos to show.

Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:15:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: Cyprus Black on 10/04/2011 01:24:00
I want new forums.

However the new forums that CCP is giving is I do not like. EvE Gate is quite possibly the most useless feature created. Possibly less useful than the ingame bounty system.

Is it a good feature? Yes.
Did we need? No.
Does it do anything that third party programs don't already do? No.
Is it easier to use and access than third party programs? No.
Does it offer any alternate features that third party programs do? No.
Is there any reason to use EvE Gate over any third party program? No.

Jame Jarl Retief
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:16:00 - [47]
 

Old.

Not a doubt in my mind. Layout is better, not as much space is wasted with the portraits, etc.

Can't help but wonder how much time was wasted reinventing the wheel with the new forums, and with such a sad showing in the end after all the testing.

Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:19:00 - [48]
 

New forums need dislike button so I can abuse it Very Happy

Florentis
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:19:00 - [49]
 

Old forum, and old null system!

Irani Firecam
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:19:00 - [50]
 

Actually, I do prefer the 'new' forum, the 5 minutes per post on this board is pretty ******ed.

Darod Zyree
Gallente
Zyree Holding
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:20:00 - [51]
 

♥ old forums Very Happy


Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:21:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Irani Firecam
Actually, I do prefer the 'new' forum, the 5 minutes per post on this board is pretty ******ed.

2 minutes now, and you can bring that down to a couple of seconds with a few quick clicks.

ValentinaDLM
Minmatar
Ubi Concordia Ibi Victoria
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:24:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: sableye
feature wise the old one, looks wise the new one, usability wise the old one.

I do get tired of the 2 minute timer though....


This basically

Devil's Call
Caldari
Malicious Destruction
War Against the Manifest
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:26:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Devil''s Call on 10/04/2011 01:28:19
I already mis the like button.

/sarcasm off

Edit: On a more serious note... both the new and the old forums have some nice features, I wouldn't really know which I prefer if I had to pick one actually. I'm really used to the old forums though so I guess my opinion is a bit biased? (Like everyones really:p)

Mortania
Minmatar
No Compromise
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:30:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Irani Firecam
Actually, I do prefer the 'new' forum, the 5 minutes per post on this board is pretty ******ed.

2 minutes now, and you can bring that down to a couple of seconds with a few quick clicks.


do tell...

Felix Decat
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:31:00 - [56]
 

New forums, not even close.

I thought these forums were outdated and useless in 2005. They still are. Searching for anything is pointless. No good way to track your previous posts.

They were about 5 years overdue for an update. The fact CCP failed on delivering that update doesn't mean we should be happy with outdated forums.

FFS, I don't believe any game anywhere has a bigger group of whiners.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:34:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Mortania
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Irani Firecam
Actually, I do prefer the 'new' forum, the 5 minutes per post on this board is pretty ******ed.

2 minutes now, and you can bring that down to a couple of seconds with a few quick clicks.

do tell...

2 minutes from last post in the current session...

Idami Raptor
Gallente
E.A.D Alliance
Omega Vector
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:38:00 - [58]
 

Using Stylish to make the new forums look mostly like the old ones was pretty good... you basically got all the good features of both, and it looked better than either of them. Pity you had to download an addon to get that!!

Rebal 88
Minmatar
Black Ice Protectorate
The Imperial Senate
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:41:00 - [59]
 

Functionality wise, the old forums. Looks wise (for the most part) the new ones.

Aeronwen Carys
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.04.10 01:46:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: Felix Decat
New forums, not even close.

I thought these forums were outdated and useless in 2005. They still are. Searching for anything is pointless. No good way to track your previous posts.

They were about 5 years overdue for an update. The fact CCP failed on delivering that update doesn't mean we should be happy with outdated forums.

FFS, I don't believe any game anywhere has a bigger group of whiners.


quoting for the irony in this post.


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