Posted - 2011.04.03 04:38:00 - [2]

 

Originally by: Meribelle Terrible

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Assuming one masters L4's, dual boxing, and forgetting the outrageous LP reward claims (I am not that awesome) of some, what is the next thing to move on towards?

I've heard answers such as
- C3 WH's
- Try Incursions out
- L4's in Lowsec
- L5's in Highsec (and others saying they don't exist - but eve-agents seems to suggest they do.)

What are the risk/reward levels offered by these alternatives? Are there any others I'm missing?

Something else which may be of interest -- I have an industrial alt toon. Anything he can do to really benefit my main or else any activities the main takes that could benefit the indy alt should be considered.

Wha'd'ya do

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Some patches ago(I dont remember when) all lv5 agents moved to lowsec and only give out low sec missions.

Those high sec lv5 agents probably only exist in the database but not in game. Also you need to passive shield tank a lot of them if you want to do them solo because they neut.

However, L4s in low sec are pretty profitable if you find a quiet low sec system and know the game mechanics well, watch local + d-scan.

Posted - 2011.04.03 19:01:00 - [4]

 

If you're gonna run L4s/L5s in lowsec first of all you want to be very careful a bout the area of space you choose, you're not the only person who can find out about these agents and people going to head to these areas specifically to catch mission runners.

I won't say you'll need PVP experience for it but just stay wary and keep an eye on your local and d-scan it wouldn't hurt to check out the locals and see what they're like.

If youre running a level 5 with 2-3 characters you'll rake in the cash(in terms of LP anyway) level 4s will payout well with a single char but you may want to bring 2 to have one scout for you.

Wormholes are decent ISK however you'll be making considerably less if you dont have a char that can mine and the more characters you have on the go at once means you've a greater risk of visitors popping in and catching you. Do remember sleeper AI has changed and they've started neuting now, I'm not sure how bad it is in class 3s but you'd best be careful.

Posted - 2011.04.03 20:14:00 - [6]

 

Originally by: Dr Richard Dawkins

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"..(and some exciting danger thrown in).."

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I wasn't aware that watching a channel list for other names was "exciting danger".

Posted - 2011.04.04 01:29:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: Meribelle Terrible

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Assuming one masters L4's, dual boxing ... what is the next thing to move on towards? What are the risk/reward levels offered by these alternatives? Are there any others I'm missing? Wha'd'ya do?

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That's about the point (not so very long ago) that we jumped into w-space. We found a C2 w-system and settled there, learning the ropes of POSes, wormholes, w-space survival (and sometimes not), and accessing the various resources there. After becoming confident in the C2 we moved up to a C3. Now, a few months later, we're in the process of moving from there to a C4.

If you're easy with the tough lvl4 combat missions then you'll be fine in C2s one-ship and easy two-ship ... two drakes no probs but other options will be quicker. In a c2, if you're solo, you'll have no trouble gathering some billions of isk over time while you get your w-space legs.

Similarly if you're easy for those tough lvl4s you probably have the skills to cope with most C3 sites, although you will have to change your ship setups and rethink some of your assumptions about incoming DPS and NPC neuts/vamps. I would not suggest trying the tougher C3 sites until you're confident / competent with the easier ones. If you live (solo or small group) in a C3, manage it well, and make use of all the resources (sleeper combat, gas harvesting, mining, and PI), you should have no great difficulty gathering 1 - 2B per week ... possibly more.

W-space **is** different and there's a lot of new stuff to learn. It can be tough, and you can lose heaps all-too-quickly, but it can also be great fun and very rewarding. If you're interested in w-space and already have experience there, then go straight to C3. If not then I'd suggest starting with a C2 (or C1) and working it until you understand w-space life and survival a little better.

Of course, if you can't afford the equipment to setup a POS then your lvl4 mission skills may not be as good as you think and you may be better off waiting a little while longer :-)

Whichever path you choose ... good luck.

Cheers
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Posted - 2011.04.04 02:38:00 - [10]

 

FW missions are good I hear. I do low sec lvl4s (non-fw) but they are only really worth it imo if you have good lp store, I used to do mission in Vezila in a CNR for Khanid Navy. Such crap lp store you don't make much more than high sec (the multiple high quality agent is very nice though). Now I have good lp store and make 200m+ per hour with 2 tengu.