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Topic |
Valkaarie
Caldari |
Posted - 2011.03.19 01:29:00 - [ 1]
im getting a laptop soon and wondering can i play eve on a laptop with a internet dongle connection if aonyone does cany they post whats the connection is like nd what is the best |
sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.03.19 01:31:00 - [ 2]
Edited by: sableye on 19/03/2011 01:47:04
if you mean mobile broadband the answer is yes and no. I've got good signal (actually to clarfiy its just signal its usage on the mast your conencted too as well so even if 5 bars if there si 50 other active users on it tis still gonna go slow) in my area and can play on it, good enough for missions and other normal eve tasks maybe not good enough for pvp as there is latency although not much.
Its really going to depend on the area were you live and what country, if your in europe buy the dongle online as you gets 7 days return under european law if bought online/over phone this will not happen if bought in shop (as standard depends on provider) |
Valkaarie
Caldari |
Posted - 2011.03.19 01:33:00 - [ 3]
well i will be usinf in the UK just outside London |
sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.03.19 01:38:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: sableye on 19/03/2011 01:39:58 Originally by: Valkaarie
well i will be usinf in the UK just outside London
well I work for a telecoms company (in uk) that does them and I work in acttivily supporting them so the answer really is you can only know by trying it in the area, its no good to ask the network as they will tell you its good coverage but won't tell you crap about network congestion around there, its also dependent on so many other factors such as house build, what other signal interference you'd have around you and such. In my opinion its also not best to get a contract one but a montly rolling one/pay as go. since whats good in your area today could be crap in 3 months and it does not pay to be locked in, also most networks have scaled back what they offer in terms of data on them these days and hard pushed to find a good data allowance. |
Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH |
Posted - 2011.03.19 01:47:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: Dorian Tormak on 19/03/2011 01:47:57 Originally by: Valkaarie
dongle
HAHAHAHA OMG this made me laugh I nearly shat myself seriously. I don't know what it is it just sounded funny |
sableye
principle of motion
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Posted - 2011.03.19 01:50:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: sableye on 19/03/2011 01:51:23 Originally by: Dorian Tormak
Edited by: Dorian Tormak on 19/03/2011 01:47:57
Originally by: Valkaarie
dongle
HAHAHAHA OMG this made me laugh I nearly shat myself seriously.
I don't know what it is it just sounded funny
When a customer calls though and says his dongle does not work or its all floppy in the drive (loose usb connector) it is prety funny but I grew up with the word meaning something else. |
Hecatonis
Amarr |
Posted - 2011.03.19 03:05:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: sableye
Edited by: sableye on 19/03/2011 01:39:58
Originally by: Valkaarie
well i will be usinf in the UK just outside London
well I work for a telecoms company (in uk) that does them and I work in acttivily supporting them so the answer really is you can only know by trying it in the area, its no good to ask the network as they will tell you its good coverage but won't tell you crap about network congestion around there, its also dependent on so many other factors such as house build, what other signal interference you'd have around you and such.
In my opinion its also not best to get a contract one but a montly rolling one/pay as go. since whats good in your area today could be crap in 3 months and it does not pay to be locked in, also most networks have scaled back what they offer in terms of data on them these days and hard pushed to find a good data allowance.
this man knows what he is talking about. try and find someone with a mobile internet stick (yes i avoided saying the d-word) and run it through a speed test a couple times a day over the coarse of a week. if your latency is good then giver, if not don't do it. eve takes very little data usage to run. Originally by: Dorian Tormak
HAHAHAHA OMG this made me laugh I nearly shat myself seriously.
I don't know what it is it just sounded funny
i had a guy come into work asking about dongles, he wouldnt tell me what kinda he needed, ( a dongle is merely a communication device connected via USB, wether is be mobile internet, wifi, bluetooth) all he would say was things like dont you have dongles, where are your dongles, you dont know what a dongle is? a dongle a dongle i cant believe you you dont have dongles. it broke out and laughed at him, he left, it was great. |
Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.03.19 03:15:00 - [ 8]
O noes! My dongle is floppy!  |
Kye Do'lan
Gallente
Order of the Domain
The Polaris Syndicate |
Posted - 2011.03.19 05:19:00 - [ 9]
I use a dongle and its perfectly ok for eve, 3.3 meg dl, 1.5 mb up with a ping of .55ms.
This is on the 3 network in the uk, I pay £15/month for 10gb usage.
5 or 6 hours of eve has a usage of about 40mb, so 10gb is more than enough for eve and general internet usage. |
Vito Antonio |
Posted - 2011.03.19 06:15:00 - [ 10]
so ive heard u liek dongles |
Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.03.19 06:32:00 - [ 11]
/me dies a little inside.  |
Julius Rigel
Sub-warp Racing Venture |
Posted - 2011.03.19 07:47:00 - [ 12]
I tried this in Norway once. What I found is that eve uses a surprisingly low amount of bandwidth for tasks like chatting, warping and jumping etc..
I did not experiment with shooting stuff or other players or anything else that would be considered conducive to lag, but it seemed fine for everyday things like skill changing and checking the market and so on. |
Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.03.19 08:51:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Vito Antonio
so ive heard u liek dongles
OMG, I love dongles! We should have a dongle party! |
Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2011.03.19 09:08:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Julius Rigel
I tried this in Norway once. What I found is that eve uses a surprisingly low amount of bandwidth for tasks like chatting, warping and jumping etc..
I did not experiment with shooting stuff or other players or anything else that would be considered conducive to lag, but it seemed fine for everyday things like skill changing and checking the market and so on.
Eve was optimized for 56k. Disable portrait loading by blocking the eve cdn and you can play without problems apart from longer gridloads. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.03.19 09:48:00 - [ 15]
I played with an USB key and it works pretty well, as long as you don't get into some time sensitive thing, like i.e. catching stuff with an interceptor (too much latency) or blob PvP (worse lag). Originally by: Batolemaeus
Originally by: Julius Rigel
I tried this in Norway once. What I found is that eve uses a surprisingly low amount of bandwidth for tasks like chatting, warping and jumping etc..
I did not experiment with shooting stuff or other players or anything else that would be considered conducive to lag, but it seemed fine for everyday things like skill changing and checking the market and so on.
Eve was optimized for 56k.
Disable portrait loading by blocking the eve cdn and you can play without problems apart from longer gridloads.
What's EvE cdn? A port? I want to block portraits loading. They are a pain in market hubs. |
Julius Rigel
Sub-warp Racing Venture |
Posted - 2011.03.19 09:53:00 - [ 16]
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Phosphorus Palladium |
Posted - 2011.03.19 10:06:00 - [ 17]
I play EVE on a laptop using my mobile for the internet connecion (Tethering)
Works fine from where I am. Of course if the mobile internet cnnection is weak or slow then I would not recomend it. |
Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2011.03.19 10:06:00 - [ 18]
If you launch logserver with eve, you can see how portrait loading is handled: Quote:
Get image for 1061364259 is fetching/refreshing image
Getting image from http://images.cdn1.eveonline.com/Character/1061364259_32.jpg
Just make sure images.cdn1.eveonline.com can not be eached by the eve online client, like with a hosts entry. As a downside the client will throw tons of exceptions: Quote:
341 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 EXCEPTION #6 logged at 03/19/2011 11:03:04 Unhandled exception in <TaskletExt object at 1a033ed8, abps=1001, ctxt=None>
342 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 Caught at:
343 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /../carbon/common/lib/bluepy.py(97) CallWrapper
344 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 Thrown at:
345 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /../carbon/common/lib/bluepy.py(85) CallWrapper
346 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /client/script/ui/services/evephotosvc.py(642) __FetchFromImageServer
347 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /client/script/ui/services/evephotosvc.py(1516) GetImage
348 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /client/script/ui/services/evephotosvc.py(1554) __GetImageFromUrl
349 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /../carbon/common/stdlib/urllib2.py(391) open
350 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /../carbon/common/stdlib/urllib2.py(409) _open
351 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /../carbon/common/stdlib/urllib2.py(369) _call_chain
352 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /../carbon/common/stdlib/urllib2.py(1181) http_open
353 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 /../carbon/common/stdlib/urllib2.py(1148) do_open
354 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 err = error(10061, 'Connection refused')
355 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 h = <httplib.HTTPConnection instance at 0x1FAAFC68>
356 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 self = <urllib2.HTTPHandler instance at 0x18C35AB8>
357 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 req = <urllib2.Request instance at 0x1FAAFC98>
358 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 headers = {'Connection': 'close', 'Host': 'images.cdn1.eveonline.com', 'User-Agent': 'Python-urllib/2.7'}
359 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 host = 'images.cdn1.eveonline.com'
360 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 http_class = <class httplib.HTTPConnection at 0x07110878>
361 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 URLError: <urlopen error [Errno 10061] Connection refused: 'thread::connect failed with error 10061: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.\r\n'>
362 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 Thread Locals:
363 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 session was <Session: (sid:1, clientID:0, mutating:0, locationid:30003861, corprole:0x7fffffffffffffffL, userid:1391482, languageID:EN, role:0x3, charid:484874085, address:84.129.98.180:2009, userType:21, regionid:10000049, constellationid:20000564,
364 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 -corpid:506080703, shipid:481419854, solarsystemid:30003861, solarsystemid2:30003861, hqID:60007180, rolesAtAll:0x7fffffffffffffffL, rolesAtHQ:0x7fffffffffffffffL, rolesAtBase:0x7fffffffffffffffL, rolesAtOther:0x7fffffffffffffffL, genderID:True, bloodl
365 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 -ineID:7, raceID:8, corpAccountKey:1000)>
366 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437
367 2011.03.19 10:03:07:437 EXCEPTION END
But no portraits will ever be loaded. Alternatively you could just open your own http server on your local box, add a hosts entry, and let the server serve some generic portrait. *shrugs* I was just interested in the lower bandwidth.. |
Lynx Australis
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.03.19 10:45:00 - [ 19]
So now we must use more bandwidth to download all these plastic portraits? |
Mr Kidd |
Posted - 2011.03.20 01:17:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Valkaarie
im getting a laptop soon and wondering can i play eve on a laptop with a internet dongle connection if aonyone does cany they post whats the connection is like nd what is the best
Yeah, it'll work assuming you're in an area that gives you better than pre-90's dialup performance. Just make sure you get a USB extension cable and park the dongle at a window, preferably one towards the direction of the tower or strongest signal. Having the dongle away from you and other objects (the computer itself) than can attenuate the signal is probably the most important thing you can do to improve performance. |
Diablo Ex
Caldari
The Devil's Reject's
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Posted - 2011.03.20 04:27:00 - [ 21]
Most notebooks that I'm aware of have built in wireless, so no dongle required unless it's through a mobile phone system. I have a fairly new Acer Aspire 64 bit notebook bought at Walmart for less than $500.00, and I can easily run two clients by plugging in a second monitor and splitting the desktop, while on a DSL wireless router. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School |
Posted - 2011.03.20 06:07:00 - [ 22]
I don't think I should share what I do with my dongle  Depends on who else is using the network at the times, the majority of the time I use my laptop for running EVE, its skill/market changes. In that capacity, it is perfect. I have done an anom or two, it can get a bit laggy from time to time, but it is certainly playable |
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