Posted - 2011.02.28 09:25:00 - [3]

 

Didn't you get the memo?
SiSi is only for supercap pilots now

If you want them to change it back, don't bother logging on to SiSi any more.

Especially don't participate in mass tests

Posted - 2011.03.01 03:03:00 - [5]

 

The incident at the FFA is completely within the new SISI rules but the Moros who shot at your pod before you docked is in the wrong as their is still no fighting on station or gates.

The new rules can be found here Sticky: Test Server Rules and here singularity 'the rules they are a-changin'

If you have any proof to back up your claim on the Moros that shot you outside station in your pod, you can post here: Rule violation reporting

Posted - 2011.03.01 11:41:00 - [7]

 

Originally by: Carola Kessler

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have fun everyone there

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We do.

The FFAs were always the only reason to go to the combat system, CCP finally made that clearer by making the entire system FFA.

Or in other words: Do not begrudge people the single solar system on SiSi where they can have some fun, you have all the rest of New Eden for your testing and thus no reason to complain.

Posted - 2011.03.01 16:58:00 - [9]

 

Originally by: Taylormade VI

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This has happened to me too much since the rule changes. What is the point of naming the FFA's Frigate and Destroyer Hulls if people are just going to grief it with carriers and macherials. There is no fun to be had here if you are looking for a good fun frigate fight. The same with the other FFA's. Someone needs to rename the tab. What was wrong with Cruisers and below, or consentual combat. Now the tabs are named terribly, and the FFA's are useless for anyone looking to try their ship fits out.

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I agree with this it really sucks to go for example frigate ffa in lets say harpy and there is 3 supercarriers and 3 faction bs with bubbles. Otherwise i think new rules are actually good just ffa's suck. With all these caps there shouldnt even be ffa's at all i think.. Well it would be best if there would be old typish ffa's..

I have spoken...

Posted - 2011.03.01 23:30:00 - [11]

 

Originally by: Rokhy Bhalboah

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Ask for a 1v1 and then warp to a gate for the fight. As long as both agree to it, there shouldn't be a problem fighting at a gate. Just make sure you really have consent; i.e. maybe take a screenshot of the other party agreeing to the fight so they can't turn on you and get you banned.

Don't fight at the station though, people won't know it's consensual and some will interfere. It's all fun and games until everyone starts shooting.

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This does not fix the problem. Fights where there are 3 or 4 frigates all having a good fight are very fun and helpful when testing a ship. It is not fun when this is happening and super caps jump in. Now they have changed the FFA's to say "frigate and destroyers hulls preffered". What IDIOT wrote these beacons. That says, hey get in a frigate, but if your in a thanatos no biggy, just grief some more.

Posted - 2011.03.02 18:35:00 - [13]

 

As I see it the big problem is super caps, you need either a HUGE fleet wich isn't realistic with the amount of chars logged on at any given time or a few dector and a few super caps of you own to kill a super capital.

As super capitals aren't seeded there and not easy to get and build some of these just to police the FFAs won't ever happen.

Why not just put a trigger in the DB or code in the SISI client on initiating jumps to the fighting system blocking every super cap from entering?

Posted - 2011.03.02 20:22:00 - [15]

 

Originally by: Beardponderer

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That would require an inordinate amount of effort for little to no gain for the QA dept.

Still, old rules were better

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Well yes maybee for the QA department but is SISI stays like it is now none will stay on it to test ant that sure will be a bigger problem for the QA department so I think it's worth the effort. Just create a function that is called on in the SISI client builds that return a flag wherther the ship used us a super cap or not. Easy enought to make no matter the coding language.

Posted - 2011.03.02 22:33:00 - [17]

 

Originally by: Obviously A TradeAlt

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Supers are already enforcing the rules, sorta

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I guess you call 3 super carriers sitting on the frig beacon killing anything entering enforcing the rules then I guess?

Besides it's not "rules" persay anymore only guidelines, anyway supers destroy the system for fighting. Any time you try and have some fun testing or anything else you end up with a bunch of supers warping in and killing anything they can...

Posted - 2011.03.03 12:21:00 - [19]

 

So you're saying that the "testing" environment in the wannabe-pvp hub is now closer to tq?

Mission accomplished tbh.

Posted - 2011.03.03 18:10:00 - [21]

 

Originally by: tobs

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I like Sisi like this ^^

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You mean with people shooting at the undock point ? With Gangs of Adrestias nuking everybody ? with Test Server Killboards ?

It turned in to a PVP wannabe's heaven. It used to be a nice place to really test setups and tactics before go try them on Tranquility. Now you see a bunch of noobs that only seem interested in collecting Killmails to post them on Sing Killboard .

Posted - 2011.03.04 07:04:00 - [23]

 

Originally by: Catari Taga

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Originally by: Carola Kessler

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have fun everyone there

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We do.

The FFAs were always the only reason to go to the combat system, CCP finally made that clearer by making the entire system FFA.

Or in other words: Do not begrudge people the single solar system on SiSi where they can have some fun, you have all the rest of New Eden for your testing and thus no reason to complain.

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Tranlation: I'm too terrible of a PVPer on TQ that I must take my LOLEPICPVPSKILLS to a simulation of a simulation of a space simulation.

Posted - 2011.03.04 22:02:00 - [25]

 

I don't see it being too unreasonable to just get supercaps. or capitals in general their own system for testing, and cyno jam the main system.

Supercaps have no business fighting subcaps on sisi. they will never get the numbers to truely "test" their ships.

only other capitals and supercaptials can do anything to them.
so give them their own test area.

Standard caps I still cant decide if I like them everywhere or not.
there are more standard cap pilots and enough BS pilots to take them out.
and the carriers (NOT SUPER) make the FFA's more interesting I think.

Supercaps everywhere is pretty lol, but damn boring.

Posted - 2011.03.05 19:56:00 - [27]

 

Originally by: QT McWhiskers

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Yeah I can't see a reason to log in to sisi anymore. EVERYTIME a good fight happens in one of the FFAs. The same two nyx's come in and start repping up people and launching dozens of fighters or ogres. I mean, I understand that Supercarrier and Titan pilots are bored most of the time on TQ, but COME ON do you really NEED to know that your two nyx's can kill my nighthawk in about a minute?

CCP you really need to put things back to the way they were. Its ridiculous the way it is now.

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I suppose you killed and podded a defenseless afk damnation in a safe spot because you really NEEDED to know whether your fleet could? lol, cry more. What you're really asking for is to remove the top of the food chain so you get closer to the top.

Posted - 2011.03.06 16:32:00 - [29]

 

CCP don't (and shouldn't) care about whether you get good fights on SISI or not. They care about whether you are able to help test new features & bug fixes for them.

If they rebalance a particular ship type and you are sitting off a planet testing its tank in controlled circumstances then someone warps a supercarrier in and kills you, despite you asking them to stop as you are testing changes, then that would possibly be classed as "interfering with testing" and maybe worth a ban.

If someone just runs a good fight in ships that have been unchanged in the game for ages, that is fair game in their view.