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Worpout
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:44:00 - [1]
 

Can't find another place to post is, so i just do it here.


Hello,

I just bought this char, from the forums. I bought it nicely, payed the isk and he transferred the char.

But now when i get online on the char, i have 4.5b isk my wallet, and a mail saying to transfer the char to another account?

I think the guy that send me 4.5b isk misunderstood everything, because i saw the mail log.

Re: Re: Char sale
From: Triaqe
Sent: 2011.02.04 08:27
To: Worpout,

transfer worpout to account = [Censored]

thx in advance !

--------------------------------
Re: Char sale
From: Worpout
Sent: 2011.02.03 23:28
To: Triaqe,

i am interested, contact me when you want to make the exchange

--------------------------------
Char sale
From: Triaqe
Sent: 2011.02.03 07:04
To: Worpout,

I am scanning forum in order to find myself a matar pilot and saw ur writing thats why i am writing u ...

Im willing to pay 4,5 bill for ur toon let me know if ur interrested.


!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So, now i'm courious about, do i have to pay the isk back or am i free to keep em.

This is the postwhere i bought the char:

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1461631

Thanks,

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:47:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Sader Rykane on 06/02/2011 00:48:14
Honestly, if you get isk for anything related to a character transfer I would just send it back. It isn't worth the headache when CCP comes in swinging the banhammer just because you missed a tiny little thing in the fine print regarding character swap scams.

Send it back, and move on.

*EDIT*

Just a quick note, if the dumbass sends it again though, keep it.

Mr. Orange
Gallente
Band of Freelancers
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:52:00 - [3]
 

You bought a char legally through char transfer yes? This new char had 4.5b isk in his wallet at time of transfer or was the isk wired AFTER that business was complete?

If someone wired you the isk after you already had ownership of the char by mistake, I say keep it! No exploits here.

Worpout
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:54:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Worpout on 06/02/2011 00:55:39
Lol @ edit =P

But i didn't scammed him, i just logged on my new char, and 4.5b isk was in the wallet O.O

The mails i've posted was send by this char's previous char, not me.

There was no final agreement of the trade, and i -really- need isk.

I havent used any of em yet, so if i MUST send em back, i'll do it.

Ninjaedit:
Originally by: Mr. Orange
You bought a char legally through char transfer yes? This new char had 4.5b isk in his wallet at time of transfer or was the isk wired AFTER that business was complete?

If someone wired you the isk after you already had ownership of the char by mistake, I say keep it! No exploits here.


Yes, i bought this char fully legal, and the isk was transferred before i recieved the char.

Simply Human
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:55:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Mr. Orange
You bought a char legally through char transfer yes? This new char had 4.5b isk in his wallet at time of transfer or was the isk wired AFTER that business was complete?

If someone wired you the isk after you already had ownership of the char by mistake, I say keep it! No exploits here.

It was payment to buy the character, I don't think CCP would let him keep it and the character anyway.

Send the money back and tell him the guy had already sold/transferred the character to you.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:56:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Worpout
Lol @ edit =P

But i didn't scammed him, i just logged on my new char, and 4.5b isk was in the wallet O.O

The mails i've posted was send by this char's previous char, not me.

There was no final agreement of the trade, and i -really- need isk.

I havent used any of em yet, so if i MUST send em back, i'll do it.


Once again you're wading into a grey area. And from what I've seen before, CCP doesn't handle grey areas very well. Keep the isk if you really want but don't be surprised if something bad happens.

Worpout
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:57:00 - [7]
 

I've allready made a petition about it, and i wont use the isk before a GM answars on my petition.

Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:57:00 - [8]
 

Send me the isk, i'll sit on it for a 30 days and send it back if CCP don't come visiting my wallets like proverbial tax men.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.02.06 00:59:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Worpout
I've allready made a petition about it, and i wont use the isk before a GM answars on my petition.


GM's are most likely going to give you a canned response that can be summed up as "Character Transfer - Isk - Send money back".

You'll prolly have to escalate to get a true answer.

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:03:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Shintai on 06/02/2011 01:06:20
Send it back. Plain simple!

All you do is trying some hope to be OKed to be greedy and keep the isk in a shady manner. Even tho you obviously also feel its wrong.

Cindy Marco
Minmatar
The Warp Rats
Apotheosis of Virtue
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:09:00 - [11]
 

They don't mess around when it comes to char transfers or plex. I would second the send it back or bad things will happen.

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:13:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Shintai on 06/02/2011 01:16:35
Yep, he will be banned. (Hopefully)

For the record, he also talked about this in the danish language channel. And got told the exact same things. So its beyond bad and just deserves a direct ban! Evil or Very Mad

I have absolutely no sympathy left. Begging for an OK for a something that is basicly a cheat is pathetic.

Worpout
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:16:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Shintai
Edited by: Shintai on 06/02/2011 01:14:01
Yep, he will be banned. (Hopefully)

For the record, he also talked about this in the danish language channel. And got told the exact same things. So its beyond bad and just deserves a direct ban! Evil or Very Mad




Sorry for asking about the same thing more than once to different people O.O

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:20:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Worpout
Originally by: Shintai
Edited by: Shintai on 06/02/2011 01:14:01
Yep, he will be banned. (Hopefully)

For the record, he also talked about this in the danish language channel. And got told the exact same things. So its beyond bad and just deserves a direct ban! Evil or Very Mad




Sorry for asking about the same thing more than once to different people O.O


And wasting everyones time. Adding a petition to the queue. Just because you got a bit too greedy. Is it really worth the ban? Everyone is telling you the same. But you keep on trying to desperately find another answer.

Worpout
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:28:00 - [15]
 

I guess you're all right.

I just send the guy he's isk back.

Spineker
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:28:00 - [16]
 

Sounds like the seller had two deals going.

Worpout
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Spineker
Sounds like the seller had two deals going.


No, the other buyer just misunderstood about everything with the deal ^^

Kappas Katamara
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:34:00 - [18]
 

I wouldnt send it back unless a GM tells you to. You've petitioned it so you wont get banned.

Worpout
Posted - 2011.02.06 01:37:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Kappas Katamara
I wouldnt send it back unless a GM tells you to. You've petitioned it so you wont get banned.


Yes, i thought that too. But after a couple of days and -many- answars, i decided to give it back. It's just a game, and the other char wanting to buy this char, was a week old, so probatly a guy used he's IRL money to buy isk to get a char ^^

Rhes
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.06 03:17:00 - [20]
 

Why would you send it back? The dude sent it to the character in hopes that the previous owner would ignore any other bids on the sale thread and give him the character. Keep it and hope the guy who sent it learns a lesson.

Huds0nn
Coded Arms Corp
Posted - 2011.02.06 04:11:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Rhes
Why would you send it back? The dude sent it to the character in hopes that the previous owner would ignore any other bids on the sale thread and give him the character. Keep it and hope the guy who sent it learns a lesson.


Have to agree. the deal was already done, legit, sealed. Any other isk is fair game after you won the auction. I would of kept it and not posted about it on the forums for a start. If the guy who's isk it was would of asked for the isk back, i would of sent it back.

Samuel Caldara
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.02.06 04:38:00 - [22]
 

I think you've opened a whole new can of worms here...

Scammer posts sell for character, gets payment for character but has already sold character and keeps isk...

For once i say do the noble thing and send it back...

Milla Lekarariba
Minmatar
Capsuleer Profit Sharing Enterprise
Posted - 2011.02.06 05:13:00 - [23]
 

Yes send back


could well be a mistake on the part of the other player

as I understand it when you sell a player, you recieve the isk, through the character being sold and then its transfered, and the buyers has to transfer the isk back to the seller after the character swap is made..

I think CCP do this to prevent people from trying to sell characters that do not belong to them or that they do not have access to

Alotta Baggage
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.02.06 05:44:00 - [24]
 

CCP jumps on character sales problems, I'd wait out the GM response though. Hate to give away 4.5b isk before they say "meh, he screwed up so you should keep it" Razz

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.02.06 06:23:00 - [25]
 

You've already filed a petition. Don't do anything until that's resolved.

-Liang

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.02.06 06:23:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
You've already filed a petition. Don't do anything until that's resolved.

-Liang


Once again you surprise me with a statement I wouldn't have expected from you.

I AM SPARTACUS
Posted - 2011.02.06 07:27:00 - [27]
 

Can't believe people suggesting he keeps it. It's OBVIOUS that Triaqe gave the money to the original owner of Worpout on the understanding he was buying it:

Quote:
From: Worpout
Sent: 2011.02.03 23:28
To: Triaqe,

i am interested, contact me when you want to make the exchange


This is the key mail where previous owner of Worpout has already agreed the sale and wants to know when to make the exchange.


Quote:
From: Triaqe
Sent: 2011.02.04 08:27
To: Worpout,

transfer worpout to account = [Censored]

thx in advance !


Here Triaqe has made the exchange and is awaiting character. It's possible Triaqe made the transfer shortly after the sale was agreed to you on the forum or shortly before but obviously the ISK was transferred on the basis of an understood sale.

You did the correct thing to give it back and actually you're lucky Triaqe isn't disputing who paid for the character first and who should actually have got it.

I AM SPARTACUS!



Dannerkongen
Posted - 2011.02.06 09:01:00 - [28]
 

send isk back.

no need to make this thread any longer.

besides theres a ****ign section for it! its called char bazaar. where u bought ur char rememeber??!

sue denim
Posted - 2011.02.06 09:06:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: sue denim on 06/02/2011 09:06:13
Originally by: Dannerkongen
send isk back.

no need to make this thread any longer.

besides theres a ****ign section for it! its called char bazaar. where u bought ur char rememeber??!


that would also be the wrong place. the correct place is nowhere on the forums

Eyup Mi'duck
Posted - 2011.02.06 10:41:00 - [30]
 

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