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Kaeoz
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.02.03 16:21:00 - [31]
 

You already know about Neural Remaps to set up the specific Attributes that will enhance certain skills for training, right?

Implants too, right?

ummm..........That's it, there's no other way to make skills train faster.

Long John Silver
Posted - 2011.02.03 16:28:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Rampage88
*BUT* according to the eve mon it's going to take 451 days to get where I need to be that's nearly 1 and half years of training befor i'm near enough good enough for pvp.


In Eve you don't have a destination, it's a journey. Enjoy!

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 16:59:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Riedle
Originally by: Rampage88
Originally by: Riedle
I just looked you up on battleclinic.

Your last loss was a drake. You said you are 5-6 months old yet you have T1 launchers and mostly T1 shield mods. You also had to fit a PDS and a reactor unit so I would sumise that you have not trained fitting skills.

It sounds like you are not focusing your training.
I see that you are on eveboard but you have restricted access. open up your access so we can have a look at your skills.



If you focus your training you should have been able to fully T2 fit your drake by now.

In any case, you were outnumbered 6 or 7 to one on that lossmail. No amount skill training on your toon would have helped you there.


Yeah Mate but thats not whats chewing me up mate if yeah look at the time and date of that it happened 2 months ago that's exspected in the game I shouldn't of been in low-sec on my own my fault no one else people seem to be treating this topic as way to roast a noob for complaining about the time it takes to train. At the end of the day If ccp want to bring in more people to eve they need to look at the training times

Ok another note yes riedle lucky for me i found someone to offer me advice for what to train for and help to improve alot of things lossing a 200 mill isk drake due to not having the skills for T2 mods is bit of a ball braker on saying that even t2 wouldn't of helped due to massive of the fleet but it sure would of cut the isk by half. However he's learnt me well and I'm on the road to learning the a better drake and trust me it's the right way but thats not all i'm learning things for pve aswell but i just feel in order for ccp to bring more players to the game they need to sort something out with the skills other wise it's just gonna be the same things said and done from noobs like me lucky i enjoy the game and lot of my friends did but there not prepared to pay for a game that has a harsh learning time befor you can anywhere Shocked which is losing customers which in time will well it don't take much to work that out Idea


So you want CCP to make the game easier for you?
Not going to happen. You have to make hard decisions on what to skill.
If you can't make those decisions then it is your loss, not CCP's.

EVE is not losing players. It is gaining them.
Make the skilling very quick and a lot of long term players will leave.
Good things are worth waiting for. Your impatience is your problem.


Really so the stats from 2004 till 2011 haven't dropped mate you really need to do your homework befor you comment on this page you can see stats on this web site if you open your eyes befor you open your mouth :)

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:04:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Rampage88
Really so the stats from 2004 till 2011 haven't dropped
No.

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:09:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Kacer Xenro
oh, so this was a whinethread.

cash for SP wont happen


And How have i said anything about whineing I'm asking a pure simple question and voicein my views on how i feel as a new player We play eve to meet new people make new friends and have fun personally that comment you just made is totaly unwelcome Exclamation

I didn't make this topic to get trolls after trolls after trolls about how there had to take the long road DEATH TO ALL NOOBS Blah blah blah yeah ok you stuck it out thats fair play well done to you but as a NEW COMER to the game as well as all the other noobs out feel that the training skills are far to long to learn to get were you want to be. Thats why most people would rather buy a toon on the market then job done for people who wanna still it out and turn around and say was all me brother are the ones that have to train for many years when players that have enough money can just go buy what there want. if yeah wanna fly an ok ship then thats easy to train for but why half a ship when you can train for a full one? Your the one paying for the account to only fly a okish ship not me lol

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:11:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Rampage88
Really so the stats from 2004 till 2011 haven't dropped
No.


right now ask yeah self this question how many people have an alt account? half that number and yeah'll get the real number it's simple lol

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:11:00 - [37]
 

Quote:
Really so the stats from 2004 till 2011 haven't dropped mate you really need to do your homework befor you comment on this page you can see stats on this web site if you open your eyes befor you open your mouth :)


Really. You are wrong and it is YOU who needs to do their homework.
EVE subscription rates have been consistently increasing.

Sounds like you need to do homework on a lot of things.
EVE is not for people who are not willing to do research and have a plan.

Your lack of focus, planning and impatience is not a good enough reason to fix something that isn't broken I'm afraid.

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:14:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Rampage88
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Rampage88
Really so the stats from 2004 till 2011 haven't dropped
No.


right now ask yeah self this question how many people have an alt account? half that number and yeah'll get the real number it's simple lol


You said look at the facts and the fact is you are wrong.

So now you are just trolling.

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:14:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Kacer Xenro
oh, so this was a whinethread.

cash for SP wont happen


It already happens. Stop giving CCP cash, see if they keep giving you SP.



At last someone agrees with me Shocked

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:15:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 03/02/2011 17:20:08
Originally by: Rampage88
right now ask yeah self this question how many people have an alt account?
No. The question you have to ask is "do people have the same number of alt accounts now as they did then"?

The fact of the matter is this: early 2011 we saw a PCU that was larger than the total number of accounts the game game had in 2004. Hell, even 50% larger if we compare it to early 2004.

So yeah, no. The stats have not dropped from 2004 to 2011. You'll need to roll out some pretty spectacular proof to prop out that claim. So get to it. Chop-chop.
Quote:
half that number and yeah'll get the real number it's simple lol
Ok. The game now has 175k players, since half of that 350k subscription number is alts. In 2004 it had 25k players, since half of that 50k subscription number was alts. End result: no, the stats have not dropped from 2004 to 2011.

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:16:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Riedle
Originally by: Rampage88
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Rampage88
Really so the stats from 2004 till 2011 haven't dropped
No.


right now ask yeah self this question how many people have an alt account? half that number and yeah'll get the real number it's simple lol


You said look at the facts and the fact is you are wrong.

So now you are just trolling.


Well look at the topic the whole thing mate i think only a couple of players haven't trolled or B*tch slapped back so need i say moreQuestion

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:18:00 - [42]
 

Quote:
Well look at the topic the whole thing mate i think only a couple of players haven't trolled or B*tch slapped back so need i say moreQuestion


No, I agree. You should STFU and HTFU

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:22:00 - [43]
 

No mate I me alone made this topic and therefor you should STFU lmao it's like this if yeah don't like been in aplace why stay so Jog on :) and take yeah trolling remarks with yeah Kiss kiss :)

Yennefer Dielli
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:24:00 - [44]
 

So you don't want to buy a trained character to be able to "turn around to someone and say "Hey was all me brother lol""... but you don't want to build up the character like everyone had to do it up to this point and you want to be given an advantage for spending more money in the game... oookayyy

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:27:00 - [45]
 

Rolling Eyes Power to the Noobs :PRolling Eyes

I just think it's funny how a simple question turns in to this massive blog about you this you that Shocked

Never mind but still more should be done towards noobs and Skill training :P don't care what anyone says Razz

Riedle
Minmatar
Paradox Collective
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:28:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Rampage88
Rolling Eyes Power to the Noobs :PRolling Eyes

I just think it's funny how a simple question turns in to this massive blog about you this you that Shocked

Never mind but still more should be done towards noobs and Skill training :P don't care what anyone says Razz


I don't think you are in posession of the minimal IQ recommended to play this game.
(80 btw)

happy travels!

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:29:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Yennefer Dielli
So you don't want to buy a trained character to be able to "turn around to someone and say "Hey was all me brother lol""... but you don't want to build up the character like everyone had to do it up to this point and you want to be given an advantage for spending more money in the game... oookayyy


Point being is it's like buying a second hand car when yeah can have a brand new one just means yeah have to wait months for not years Shocked

Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:34:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Rampage88
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Kacer Xenro
oh, so this was a whinethread.

cash for SP wont happen


It already happens. Stop giving CCP cash, see if they keep giving you SP.



At last someone agrees with me Shocked


I was disagreeing that Kacer's assertion that you cannot buy SP for money.
I do not necessarily agree nor disgree with what you say, except the bit about subscription numbers falling since 2004, all the evidence I have seen suggests an industry-busting near continual increase year after year.

As to whether that increase is specifically because Eve has an obnoxious and thoroughly hateful skill system... I couldn't hope to guess correctly, but I would doubt it. I certainly despise the skill system every time I look at it, without fail.

But apart from not liking it, I don't actually have a good bead on what it is you're saying. Like I say, I think it's a fascinatingly bad mechanic, it's so bad that I can't find anybody who has decided to clone it. In an industry where pretty much any idea that has a thimble full of merit gets copied, cloned and done to death, Eve's skill system sits as a shining beacon of an idea so truthfully awful nobody would want that anywhere near their product.

So without necessarily knowing specifically what it is you want, maybe I agree with you, but I wasn't really stating so when I disgreed with Kacey.

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:49:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Rampage88
Originally by: Gavjack Bunk
Originally by: Kacer Xenro
oh, so this was a whinethread.

cash for SP wont happen


It already happens. Stop giving CCP cash, see if they keep giving you SP.



At last someone agrees with me Shocked


I was disagreeing that Kacer's assertion that you cannot buy SP for money.
I do not necessarily agree nor disgree with what you say, except the bit about subscription numbers falling since 2004, all the evidence I have seen suggests an industry-busting near continual increase year after year.

As to whether that increase is specifically because Eve has an obnoxious and thoroughly hateful skill system... I couldn't hope to guess correctly, but I would doubt it. I certainly despise the skill system every time I look at it, without fail.

But apart from not liking it, I don't actually have a good bead on what it is you're saying. Like I say, I think it's a fascinatingly bad mechanic, it's so bad that I can't find anybody who has decided to clone it. In an industry where pretty much any idea that has a thimble full of merit gets copied, cloned and done to death, Eve's skill system sits as a shining beacon of an idea so truthfully awful nobody would want that anywhere near their product.

So without necessarily knowing specifically what it is you want, maybe I agree with you, but I wasn't really stating so when I disgreed with Kacey.


All i'v wanted to know from the start is there a faster way to train your skills other then Implants and remaps and if there isn't then why not? CCP State that there trying to fight 3ed party Players from making money from eve that are in no conncetion with CCP only way to do this is E.g 60% of titans are brought with real money i dunno how much they go for but i no Null sec alliances that have the most space and power can make and sell titans for a living and that's a fact the same with Toons aswell most the time the trades in isk but I'v heard gossip from other players that know players and then players no players so and so like the words spread that buy toon for real money to. Right only way to stop this is to start looking at the training skills and redesign a way that players can use the ship alot faster there "everyones dong it" and it's all down to skill training

Soma Khan
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.03 17:51:00 - [50]
 

the op is either a prolific troll or ******ed. could be both though

Rampage88
Posted - 2011.02.03 18:06:00 - [51]
 

One other thing i want to add as well pritty soon theres a new MMO space game out thats offerin Pure pvp space combat unless eve change i can see people switching over to that just a personal note i want to add

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.03 18:19:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Kacer Xenro
oh, so this was a whinethread.

cash for SP wont happen


LOL Question

FLASH INFO: It's called toons bazaar Exclamation

Laughing

Master Gotama
Posted - 2011.02.03 19:33:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Rampage88
If anyone else Knows how I can Improve my training other then buying a toon please can you help me.


sure thing mate. the answer is implants and neural remapping. other than those two things, there's nothing else you can do to improve training time.

Cozmik R5
Minmatar
Dock 94
Posted - 2011.02.03 19:36:00 - [54]
 

Welcome to The Hump. You just have to get over it.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.02.03 19:39:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Swynet
Originally by: Kacer Xenro
oh, so this was a whinethread.

cash for SP wont happen
LOL Question

FLASH INFO: It's called toons bazaar Exclamation
Drastically different thing.

Ai Shun
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.03 20:04:00 - [56]
 

I love how this game chews players and spits them back out as a mangled wreck.


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