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Psocoptera
Posted - 2011.01.27 19:32:00 - [1]
 

What _is_ this. It seems to bear no relation to the total output or output/hour. As I move a head around I can see this number goes up as I go near hotspots on the scan, but the output goes down at the same time. To find optimum output seems to have nothing to do with this number, so what the heck is it, what does it mean and should I worry about it?

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2011.01.27 20:29:00 - [2]
 



It is the percentage of effeciency the head is producing at that spot.

The number does not go down, look again...

Watch the side bar amounts. The numbers dynamically scale as you go higher or lower on the graph. (in layman's terms, the graph going from 1 to 50k would take up half a screen, so when the extract value goes above, say 10k, the graph automatically changes scale, so the top becomes say, 20k instead of 10k) This has the appearance of dropping quantities when in fact you are "off the current scale" and it resets to a higher one, making it look like it dropped.....


Ash Ar
Posted - 2011.01.27 20:57:00 - [3]
 

Yes, I finally figured out the dynamically changing scale myself but it is confusing and anti intuitive. The color changing in combination is also confusing to me. I would prefer to have a fixed scale or a manually adjustable scale that gives an absolute amount so you can compare things easier.

Also, it can be confusing if you have two (or more) ECU's extracting different products and they finish the program and then don't tell you what you are extracting until you click on the the PI type icon which can change what you are extracting if you guess wrongly. Yes, for small scale operations, one should be able to remember things but for lots of different planets and characters doing PI, it can get quite confusing especially if you don't reinstall programs every hour.

Finally, I think this has been commented on before elsewhere, but the program graph changes after you install the program.

Although I like the new interface, I was able to eek out more extractors using the old "click-fest" interface. Since the second ECU takes up a base amount of grid, I can only get about 14 extractors running max and that is without using any basic factories. And that ECU<=> Spaceport link always ends up being upgraded to 2000 wasting quite a bit since it is difficult to predict how much throughput you may have.

Psocoptera
Posted - 2011.01.27 22:00:00 - [4]
 

I've been judging the estimated output from the output numbers bottom right of the graph panel. I stopped taking any notice of the graph as soon as I realised it was useless because of the scale changing.

The output figures can definitely go down as the raw quality index of the head you are moving goes up. I'm not saying they always do, sometimes they go up, sometimes they go down.

Jun Pellion
Posted - 2011.01.28 17:20:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Psocoptera
I've been judging the estimated output from the output numbers bottom right of the graph panel. I stopped taking any notice of the graph as soon as I realised it was useless because of the scale changing.

The output figures can definitely go down as the raw quality index of the head you are moving goes up. I'm not saying they always do, sometimes they go up, sometimes they go down.


Confirmed. I started paying attention ONLY to efficiency percentage when I realized the bottom right number doesn't mean squat - real production floats above or below that number regardless.

Psocoptera
Posted - 2011.01.28 19:24:00 - [6]
 

What? The graph is useless, the output figures bottom right are useless, the only thing to check is the raw efficiency numbers, is that right?

Gosh-darn-it they made a mess of this didn't they?

Psocoptera
Posted - 2011.01.28 19:27:00 - [7]
 

It just occurred to me, the auto scaling chart would be okay if it only auto scaled _upwards_. As long as it doesn't re-scale back downwards then it would make some sense...

Come on CCP you have a few issues still to iron out with the new PI... (I'd also appreciate the depreciation rates being tweaked downwards slightly, hi-sec PI seems to be pretty much borked at the moment unless you are happy spending nearly everything you make on new PI setups every few days)


 

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