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Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2011.01.14 18:45:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Ares47
Edited by: Ares47 on 12/01/2011 15:14:54
Hello everyone - at the risk of sounding like an ass - umm how can I determine a bot from a real person?



Let me introduce you to the Turing Test.

Also, you may want to take out a pen and paper, and jot down some notes with regards to a discussion on the possibility of creating a strong AI inside of a von neumann machine. Also, it may be helpful to research some other related topics, such as artificial consciousness, neural networks, general intelligence, among others.

Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente
PonyWaffe
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.01.15 07:26:00 - [62]
 

Silen in The Forge region, approx 10 jumps from jita.

Pair of Mackinaws names snowcone 2012 and 2013 working the icefields there

Custard Mite
Minmatar
Hootie Owl Round-Tip Scissors Club
Posted - 2011.01.15 16:00:00 - [63]
 

Hey, Iím all for killing macro scum, but shouldnít you be doing it now? I canít imagine anyone would be that dumb as to run a macro in Hi-Sec during the event.

Dumb hulk fits - yes, but macros... surely not

Jhoria Englside
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.15 18:25:00 - [64]
 

who cares if they are bots or not?

TimeDrawsNigh
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.15 19:59:00 - [65]
 

System: Yarebap
Security: 0.5
Ice belt: No

System: Finid
Security: 0.5
Ice belt: No

System: Miah
Security: 0.6
Ice belt: Yes

Ronald Raygunn
Amarr
Inferi Legion
Posted - 2011.01.15 23:53:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Custard Mite
Hey, Iím all for killing macro scum, but shouldnít you be doing it now? I canít imagine anyone would be that dumb as to run a macro in Hi-Sec during the event.

Dumb hulk fits - yes, but macros... surely not


Good point, why even advertise it on the forums, just get names from previous Geddons and get the word out it the most discrete manner as possible. It's like hunting meth cooks and then sending them a letter saying that you are going to blow up their labs soon.

Tortonax Troodont
Posted - 2011.01.16 00:24:00 - [67]
 

Carpet Licker69ER, Genesis area, Kobam specifically. Owned by a moron to boot.

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.01.16 09:40:00 - [68]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 17/01/2011 15:51:34
These are not locations of macro miners in particular, as far as I know. It is worse - it has got really dumb miners in it.

System: Uuhulanen
Belts: 10
Sec-Status: 0.5 (0.49)
Region: Black Rise

The system has been mined down to an unbelievable and unrecognisable state, and keeps getting mined down, repeatedly, without the chance for asteroid regeneration to revive the belts that I find myself declined to say: gank gank gank!

I am not a fan of Hulkageddon. However, seeing how some miners without a bit of respect for asteroids can mine the belts of a system into such a horrible state, lets me put my love for the asteroids first and allows me to see some usefulness in Hulkageddon. Either you love those rocks or you do not, and some miners need to die before they see the light ...

Imagine a pilot who is flying around constantly with his capacitor at only 2%-5%! If you know how this would feel like then you know what it feels like looking at the belts of Uuhulanen. Please, put those miners out of their misery and give the asteroids a break.

If Hulkageddon needs more ideas then just hit any 0.5-0.8 system within 10 jumps around Jita. The high price for Nocxium/Pyroxeres has turned almost every miner into a cherry picker and the belts of almost any Caldari system are in a bad state. If the system then contains a station of the Caldari Navy then you are guaranteed to hit multiple dumb and stupid miners.

Additionally:

System: Hageken
Belts: 25(!)
Sec-Status: 0.6 (0.60)
Region: Lonetrek

Hageken has got plenty of belts, of which more than half of them get stripped bare almost every day now. Other systems do not even posses as many belts as are being stripped bare in Hageken. Of course, it has got 6 stations with one belonging to Caldari Navy. Rolling Eyes

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.01.16 10:55:00 - [69]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 17/01/2011 15:55:08
The Top Ten List of Ore Belts in Caldari space:

#10 region: The Citadel, system: Venilen, belts: 10, security: 0.61, jumps: 6
#9 region: The Citadel, system: Haatomo, belts: 10, security: 0.61, jumps: 5
#8 region: Black Rise, system: Uuhulanen, belts: 10, security: 0.49*, jumps: 8
#7 region: Lonetrek, system: Umokka, belts: 12, security: 0.56, jumps: 4
#6 region: Lonetrek, system: Tsuguwa, belts: 14, security: 0.77, jumps: 4
#5 region: The Citadel, system: Eitu, belts: 13, security: 0.54, jumps: 7
#4 region: The Citadel, system: Inoue, belts: 14, security: 0.57, jumps: 6
#3 region: The Citadel, system: Kusomonmon, belts: 18, security: 0.85, jumps: 3
#2 region: Lonetrek, system: Oimmo, belts: 20, security: 0.46*, jumps: 7
#1 region: Lonetrek, system: Hageken, belts: 25, security: 0.60, jumps: 5

"jumps:" is the distance to Jita. These are all systems with a high belt count and at least one Caldari Navy station that offers a 50% base yield for a perfect refining. These systems are guaranteed winners.
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The Top Ten List of Ore Belts in Amarr space:

#10 region: Tash-Murkon, system: Dabrid, belts: 12, security: 0.65, jumps: 7
#9 region: Domain, system: Youl, belts: 14, security: 0.84, jumps: 4, gates: 5
#8 region: Domain, system: Hisoufad, belts: 13, security: 0.65, jumps: 6
#7 region: Kor-Azor, system: Ordion, belts: 13, security: 0.50, jumps: 14
#6 region: Domain, system: Jesoyeh, belts: 15, security: 0.69, jumps: 6
#5 region: Domain, system: Zaimeth, belts: 14, security: 0.52, jumps: 6
#4 region: Domain, system: Nakri, belts: 24, security: 0.81, jumps: 5
#3 region: Domain, system: Sharhelund, belts: 21, security: 0.57, jumps: 5
#2 region: Kador, system: Finid, belts: 20, security: 0.49*, jumps: 8
#1 region: Kador, system: Yarebap, belts: 30, security: 0.50, jumps: 7

"jumps:" is the distance to Amarr. Each of these systems has got lots of belts and at least one station of the Amarr Navy at which one can refine with a 50% base yield for a perfect refining.
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The Top Seven List of Ore Belts in Gallente space:

#7 region: Sinq Laison, system: Caretyn, belts: 10, security: 0.82, jumps: 3
#6 region: Sinq Laison, system: Jel, belts: 10, security: 0.61, jumps: 4
#5 region: Placid, system: Stacmon, belts: 10, security: 0.61, jumps: 9
#4 region: Sinq Laison, system: Vylade, belts: 13, security: 0.80, jumps: 1
#3 region: Verge Vendor, system: Sortet, belts: 13, security: 0.78, jumps: 6
#2 region: Sinq Laison, system: Mirilene, belts: 17, security: 0.78, jumps: 5
#1 region: Verge Vendor, system: Masalle, belts: 20, security: 0.78, jumps: 8

"jumps:" is the distance to Dodixie. Each system, again, with a high belt count and at least one 50% base yield station of the Federation Navy.
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The Top Three List of Ore Belts in Minmatar space:

#3 region: Heimatar, system: Isendeldik, belts: 16, security: 0.81, jumps: 5
#2 region: Molden Heath, system: Teonusude, belts: 29, security: 0.59, jumps: 5
#1 region: Molden Heath, system: Gulfonodi, belts: 29, security: 0.50, jumps: 6

"jumps:" is the distance to Rens. Each system contains lots of belts and at least one 50% base yield station of the Republic Fleet.

*) Systems with a security status of 0.45-0.49 count as 0.5-systems and are a part of high-sec.

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.01.16 12:11:00 - [70]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 17/01/2011 15:55:35
The combination of running missions for the military and then to use the standings (needed for a good refining) to go mining close to the market hubs is what identifies the boring kind of a miner and makes mining in such systems unbearable. These miners may also not have heard of Hulkageddon and will likely appreciate an introduction to the event more than most other miners.

Still, I would not expect much from Gallente and Minmatar space, because of the current price and the general availability of Nocxium/Pyroxeres.

Djinn Xh'rnae
Posted - 2011.01.16 13:40:00 - [71]
 

Edited by: Djinn Xh''rnae on 16/01/2011 13:40:51
Seriously...? OK, here's a map showing systems that are guaranteed to have macro-miners in them.

http://www.eveonlinereview.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/alliance-map-side-on.png
Image changed to a URL - Adida

Kestrix
Posted - 2011.01.16 15:01:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Whitehound


#2 region: Molden Heath, system: Teonusude, belts: 29, security: 0.59, jumps: 5
#1 region: Molden Heath, system: Gulfonodi, belts: 29, security: 0.50, jumps: 6



I can comfirm that their are no Hulks or any other ships of any interest in these systems! Move along now theirs nothing to see in these systems.

Ryzhik Belka
Posted - 2011.01.16 15:57:00 - [73]
 

Won't help to get rid of macrominers . At all . Some miners will ragequit , some join nearly-unvulnerable ranks of agentrunners , some "might" join the darkside , but macrominers will keep macro mining . And bot's won't generate any tears , maybe only synthetic ones .
Well , anyway ... try Chelien system in gallente space , seen lots of makinawas nomming on ice there

Custard Mite
Minmatar
Hootie Owl Round-Tip Scissors Club
Posted - 2011.01.16 17:13:00 - [74]
 

Quote:
Good point, why even advertise it on the forums, just get names from previous Geddons and get the word out it the most discrete manner as possible. It's like hunting meth cooks and then sending them a letter saying that you are going to blow up their labs soon.


People donít need me to tell them itís a bad move. If they read these boards at all they will be well aware of Hulkadoobie.

Myself, Iíve never ganked anyone, and my role in this event is to be the hunted, although I am leaning ever closer towards the idea - for macros anyway. When I do decide to set out on campaign then I certainly wouldnít advertise anything to give it away :)

Happy hunting peeps

Lordan Endericcson
Clan Astreia
Posted - 2011.01.16 18:33:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Lord Milu
Originally by: Lordan Endericcson
I'm watching Domain almost a year now, and I spotted several sites, which need to be taking care of: Murema (0.7), Jambu (0.5), Charra (0.8) and Warouh (0.5)
Warouh has got an ice-belt, so it's always full of mackis, maybe orcas are there too. In Charra I spotted a possible macro miner in a hulk, always there. Sources told me, that there are corps, who run into low-sec to mine during hulkageddon, but we'll organize some patrol-runs, to elminate 'em.



Hmmm...I been mining in Charra for the last couple of weeks while at work. When at work I dont respond to local, bumping, convo's etc. and mine for pretty much 10 hours straight, then continue for a little longer when I get home. I hope your not implying that I am the Bot just because I am anti- social.Sad


Hi,

No, U R not on my list, but I suggest to mine elsewhere during hulkageddon 4.

Sator Nyatt
Posted - 2011.01.16 23:07:00 - [76]
 

Its not about removing the macros, because the macros will be there in march again after you finish killing them. Without macros only the richest moons would have POSes on them and ships would cost a lot more. But! Why should the macros and miners get a free ride?

Plus my killboard sucks, all my friends laugh at my small e-peen. I need this!

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:11:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Whitehound on 17/01/2011 13:53:19
Top Ten List of Ice Fields in Caldari space:

#10 region: Lonetrek, system: Elonaya, ice fields: 1, security: 0.67, jumps: 5
#9 region: The Forge, system: Ahtulaima, ice fields: 1, security: 0.61, jumps: 3
#8 region: The Forge, system: Otela, ice fields: 1, security: 0.53, jumps: 3
#7 region: Lonetrek, system: Arvasaras, ice fields: 1, security: 0.52, jumps: 4
#6 region: Lonetrek, system: Piekura, ice fields: 1, security: 0.51, jumps: 4
#5 region: Black Rise, system: Uchomida, ice fields: 1, security: 0.49*, jumps: 9
#4 region: Lonetrek, system: Kino, ice fields: 2, security: 0.73, jumps: 5
#3 region: The Forge, system: Hentogaira, ice fields: 2, security: 0.57, jumps: 11
#2 region: The Forge, system: Wuos, ice fields: 2, security: 0.56, jumps: 8
#1 region: The Forge, system: Osmon, ice fields: 3, security: 0.68, jumps: 6

"jumps:" is the distance to Jita.
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Top Ten List of Ice Fields in Amarr space:

#10 region: Domain, system: Bashakru, ice fields: 1, security: 0.64, jumps: 5
#9 region: Tash-Murkon, system: Jarzalad, ice fields: 1, security: 0.61, jumps: 5
#8 region: Kador, system: Miah, ice fields: 1, security: 0.55, jumps: 6
#7 region: Domain, system: Niarja, ice fields: 1, security: 0.54, jumps: 3
#6 region: Tash-Murkon, system: Anjedin, ice fields: 1, security: 0.52, jumps: 4
#5 region: Kador, system: Neburab, ice fields: 1, security: 0.46*, jumps: 6
#4 region: Domain, system: Afivad, ice fields: 1, security: 0.52, jumps: 6
#3 region: Domain, system: Warouh, ice fields: 1, security: 0.53, jumps: 7
#2 region: Devoid, system: Riavayed, ice fields: 2, security: 0.65, jumps: 7
#1 region: Domain, system: Raravoss, ice fields: 2, security: 0.65, jumps: 6

"jumps:" is the distance to Amarr.
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Top Ten List of Ice Fields in Gallente space:

#10 region: Everyshore, system: Ardallabier, ice fields: 1, security: 0.71, jumps: 3
#9 region: Everyshore, system: Tolle, ice fields: 1, security: 0.71, jumps: 4
#8 region: Sinq Laison, system: Brapelille, ice fields: 1, security: 0.67, jumps: 4
#7 region: Everyshore, system: Carirgnottin, ice fields: 1, security: 0.62, jumps: 5
#6 region: Everyshore, system: Jaschercis, ice fields: 1, security: 0.61, jumps: 4
#5 region: Everyshore, system: Vaurent, ice fields: 1, security: 0.58, jumps: 4
#4 region: Everyshore, system: Aydoteaux, ice fields: 2, security: 0.68, jumps: 5
#3 region: Essence, system: Ignebaener, ice fields: 2, security: 0.53, jumps: 6
#2 region: Sinq Laison, system: Ala, ice fields: 2, security: 0.45*, jumps: 6
#1 region: Everyshore, system: Angymonne, ice fields: 3, security: 0.56, jumps: 7

"jumps:" is the distance to Dodixie.
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Top Ten List of Ice Fields in Minmatar space:

#10 region: Metropolis, system: Gedugaud, ice fields: 1, security: 0.74, jumps: 9
#9 region: Heimatar, system: Abudban, ice fields: 1, security: 0.73, jumps: 1
#8 region: Metropolis, system: Eygfe, ice fields: 1, security: 0.70, jumps: 8
#7 region: Metropolis, system: Oppold, ice fields: 1, security: 0.67, jumps: 9
#6 region: Molden Heath, system: Teonusude, ice fields: 1, security: 0.59, jumps: 5
#5 region: Metropolis, system: Barkrik, ice fields: 1, security: 0.56, jumps: 8
#4 region: Metropolis, system: Nein, ice fields: 1, security: 0.54, jumps: 10
#3 region: Heimatar, system: Emolgranlan, ice fields: 1, security: 0.53, jumps: 6
#2 region: Metropolis, system: Finanar, ice fields: 1, security: 0.53, jumps: 9
#1 region: Metropolis, system: Nakugard, ice fields: 1, security: 0.52, jumps: 7

"jumps:" is the distance to Rens.

*) Systems with a security status of 0.45-0.49 count as 0.5-systems and are a part of high-sec.

MiningSlave01
Posted - 2011.01.26 03:34:00 - [78]
 

Bumping.

Hogimo 0.6 system in "The Citidel", fair few hulks, covetors and retrievers. About 3+ Orca's as well. Fairly sure they are all actual players not bots so enjoy.

Austneal
Fevered Imaginings
Posted - 2011.01.26 06:00:00 - [79]
 

Admiral Malcomrenolds (might be misspelled, but he's on 24/7)

Osmeden 0.7

If anyone ganks this guy, please send me the killmail Very Happy

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.01.26 07:17:00 - [80]
 

Confirming, Aokinen Constellation in Black Rise has a healthy population of macro-miners, especially in Uchomida icebelt. Entire systems mined out for days at a time, with almost no regeneration. Other times, nothing being done for days. But you can almost always find a few macks or hulks in the ice belt in Uchomida.

Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Defenders of Pen Island
Posted - 2011.01.26 14:15:00 - [81]
 

I am amazed. After 4 hulkageddons, I think Whitehound has finally figured it all out :)

This pleases me greatly.


macrokil ler
Posted - 2011.01.26 17:01:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: macrokil ler on 26/01/2011 17:03:03
Abai < 3 belonging to the same person been here for nearly 15 months)
dorathy grey, mavi chang, meesho
all left their previous corps same year, month, day, minute, second,

Aghesi < corp called clerics hav 3 going
jerma < corp ticker zik-c has about 4 or 5 rolling daily

would try kill them but still a pubbie :(


Barakkus
Posted - 2011.01.26 17:06:00 - [83]
 

Elonaya (Lonetrek)

There's a d00d out there making a few hundred million a day suiciding exhumers constantly. Don't know if he got bored or not yet, but he gets lots of macros while he's at it.

Spider Freak
Posted - 2011.01.28 16:52:00 - [84]
 

Edited by: Spider Freak on 28/01/2011 16:52:53
Let me say that, im a miner, and I dont agree with the killing of inocent miners.

But these Macro miners have got to go...

You want some nice, willing targets come to kobam ( genesis region), at any time, you may not get tears because there microminers, but you can pad your kill boards.

there are actually some new guys here that were not in the previuse advert.

Borgholio
Minmatar
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
Posted - 2011.02.05 06:32:00 - [85]
 

Macro Ice Mining hotspots:

Amarr space - Arera, Isamm, Goram

Gallente space - Antollare, Ardallabier, Aydoteaux, Vaurent

Caldari space - Outuni

Minmatar space - Eygfe, Nakugard

LordPsymon
Posted - 2011.02.05 08:13:00 - [86]
 

I think the ice belts in the Ala system are infested with Macros.

Titus Phook
Posted - 2011.02.07 00:17:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Titus Phook on 07/02/2011 00:19:09
Another in Caldari space is
Ekura, 14 belts, 1 station and a few hulks running around
Security is 0.9 so concord are gonna be quick off the blocks
Right next door to Tsuguwa

I mine in both systems amongst others, but won't be for the duration of the event.

Bring the noise folks, I don't like competition

Shieko Chan
Posted - 2011.02.07 05:44:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Ares47
Edited by: Ares47 on 12/01/2011 15:14:54Hello everyone - at the risk of sounding like an ass - umm how can I determine a bot from a real person?



This should be obvious after so many hulkageddon events:

First anyone with a name you don't like is a macroer... Second, anyone mining some place you don't want them is a bot.
Third, If they don't talk to you when you make fun of them in local they are afk.
Forth, if they have shield boosters running and are not being attacked this is a macro give away because they couldn't possibly click the booster themselves.
Fifth, anyone in an npc corp is a macro.. that's what npc stands for, non-person-corp.
Sixth, if they mine for longer than 3 minutes they have to be a bot because everyone knows that a real person would get bored after one cycle.
Seven, if they are young players they were obviously created to bot... because..they ..were.
Eight, if you look at their employment history and they haven't been in 15 corporations in the last year.. they are for sure a macro.
Ninth, when in doubt - they are macro mining.

I'm sure there are other subtle ways to tell... Rolling Eyes


Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Posted - 2011.02.07 07:33:00 - [89]
 

I've got some up my sleeve.

Eden Love
Posted - 2011.02.07 16:21:00 - [90]
 

ONO near Jita - some 23/7 botters


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