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Lady Aja
Posted - 2010.12.20 02:37:00 - [1]
 

Inappropriate language and personal attacks are not permitted on this forum. Spitfire

Space Pinata
Amarr
Discount Napkin Industries
Posted - 2010.12.20 02:41:00 - [2]
 

u mad?

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2010.12.20 02:43:00 - [3]
 

Thanks for crapping up the forums with this rant.

Nvermind
Nvermind Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.20 02:48:00 - [4]
 

Hurmmm..

How to fix bots, how to fix bots...

Again this would appear to be an issue with mechanics rather than the technology.

It is simply not possible from a resource point of view to monitor individual accounts for "bot like" behaviour. Besides, the bot programmers can easily code in some random-ness to get around it.

Surely the best way would just be to modify, say, mining for example. To be less.. (dull? kidding..) but less easy to perform over and over again with very little difference in the keystrokes.

Making belts grav sites would not do.. they would just spend 5 mins scanning then down them resume.

Ummm heck I don't know. CCP your the experts you figure it out! ugh

Minarete
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.20 03:11:00 - [5]
 


Make all Currency NO Trade, make all Items NO Trade, RMT Gone

Many Many customers gone too, but heh, ya want a free/open enconomy?


Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.20 03:26:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Lady Aja
just ban china ffs. they have thier own server.
Because we all know that china is the reason for all the bots in the world.

How about banning America too while you're at it?

Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2010.12.20 03:31:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Ak''athra J''ador on 20/12/2010 03:33:08
Originally by: Nvermind

It is simply not possible from a resource point of view to monitor individual accounts for "bot like" behaviour. Besides, the bot programmers can easily code in some random-ness to get around it.



Wrong. CCP is not the only company that deals with bots. In the industry there are other companies that deal with the issue of bots, on a much larger scale then CCP. It is of course possible to make software that will get rid off most of the bots. However such software is intrusive. It is essentially spyware with the company having signed they will only use gathered information for detecting and eliminating bots. So they spy around your computer looking for bots, from looking through your ram to taking screenshots. Once such software is implemented, boting becomes much harder, to the point it is no longer profitable.

So to answer your question yes, it would be possible to patch the client one day and ban all of the bots the next.

I would be for such a patch.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.20 03:35:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
Edited by: Ak''athra J''ador on 20/12/2010 03:33:08
Originally by: Nvermind

It is simply not possible from a resource point of view to monitor individual accounts for "bot like" behaviour. Besides, the bot programmers can easily code in some random-ness to get around it.



Wrong. CCP is not the only company that deals with bots. In the industry there are other companies that deal with the issue of bots, on a much larger scale then CCP. It is of course possible to make software that will get rid off most of the bots. However such software is intrusive. It is essentially spyware with the company having signed they will only use gathered information for detecting and eliminating bots. So they spy around your computer looking for bots, from looking through your ram to taking screenshots. Once such software is implemented, boting becomes much harder, to the point it is no longer profitable.

So to answer your question yes, it would be possible to patch the client one day and ban all of the bots the next.

I would be for such a patch.
Such patches don't work. WoW Has had it's lovely little Warden for how long? How long did Glider remain (Assuming it is entirely gone, which I doubt) before Blizzard said sod it and went for the lawyers?

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2010.12.20 03:35:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
How about banning America too while you're at it?


Ban largest part of subscriber base from playing eve at all. Sound business decision.

Not on the same level as stopping people from avoiding region locks.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.12.20 03:38:00 - [10]
 

I'm still wondering how these ebil macro magnates are effecting the game in any meaningful way.

Lady Aja
Posted - 2010.12.20 04:19:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
I'm still wondering how these ebil macro magnates are effecting the game in any meaningful way.


all the macro frigate haulers use 14 day trial accounts. they dont pay a red cent to ccp they use up resourses and pretty much **** up the game.
( aka trial accounts )


ccp could always get rid of trial accounts .
EVERY single macro hauler i seen in my area is ALWAYS under 14 days old.

CCP could always just get rid of free trial accounts.

Juliette DuBois
Posted - 2010.12.20 04:38:00 - [12]
 

There is simple answer to this problem: Don`t let trial accounts run hauling missions. Razz

Nvermind
Nvermind Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.20 04:47:00 - [13]
 

Wait. What?

Why would we be annoyed about haulers?? Have I missed the point somewhere?

What are Frigate haulers doing that is game-breaking? Macro hulks? Now theres something worth getting worked up about..


Aeronwen Carys
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.20 05:31:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Lady Aja
Inappropriate language and personal attacks are not permitted on this forum. Spitfire



Swearing gets you no-where, nor does attempting to evade the profanity filter. Also, your assertion that all macroer's are from China is erroneous as it has been proven that there are vast macro companies based out of most of the large Eastern European countries, and that these companies have "HQ's" based either in the United States or in tax havens.

Ranting in this fashion only makes you appear childish and poorly educated, it also wastes precious time and resources that could be better allocated to removing real macroers. Please attempt to use what little intelligence nature blessed you with before you post again.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2010.12.20 06:27:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Lady Aja
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
I'm still wondering how these ebil macro magnates are effecting the game in any meaningful way.


all the macro frigate haulers use 14 day trial accounts. they dont pay a red cent to ccp they use up resourses and pretty much **** up the game.
( aka trial accounts )


ccp could always get rid of trial accounts .
EVERY single macro hauler i seen in my area is ALWAYS under 14 days old.

CCP could always just get rid of free trial accounts.
I'm still not seeing any meaningful impact on the game past a vauge supposition that the trial accounts might be taking up too much server resources and your personal but ultimately irrelivant rage. Besides I doubt a few hundred spread out ships warping to and fro is going to eat up very much server load in the well stocked with high performance nodes high sec areas.

So again do you have any other meaningful game related issues past bot rage and questionable performance hits?

Winters Chill
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2010.12.20 06:30:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Lady Aja

moie obiw
bie ciet
baoi bowi



Shocked

LOL

for some reason Im reminded of Team American and that North Korean Dictator King, Kim Pong Wang II or whatever.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2010.12.20 06:31:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Winters Chill
Originally by: Lady Aja

moie obiw
bie ciet
baoi bowi



Shocked

LOL

for some reason Im reminded of Team American and that North Korean Dictator King, Kim Pong Wang II or whatever.
So Ronery

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.20 07:03:00 - [18]
 

Ranting, thread locked.



 

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