| Author |
Topic |
Raid'En |
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:05:00 - [ 211]
things seems okay this time, however with sisi market at more than real prices it's hard to test things, gonna run out of money soon on sisi :/ |
Emolirdo Ag |
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:32:00 - [ 212]
worked perectly fine for my 3 accounts.
thanks! |
King4589
Gallente |
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:37:00 - [ 213]
Edited by: King4589 on 04/12/2010 18:37:34
So i checked my learning sp in evemon it sais:
Learning skill's SP: 3.999.765
now i have
Unallocated skill points: 9,177,356
9177356-3999765= 5177591
5177591-5m aditional sp = 177591
So i think i got 177591 additional sp.
or this is some sort of "fix" for the accidental reset of the skill that was in training.
More sp isn't a problem for me so every thing is fine for me.
[hr]
But then, I looked at the skills I'm training minmatar cruiser 4 on this moment and 5 is in the queue.
Im looking at the time to train the lvl 5 it takes 16d 6hr 16m 6s. a quick look @ evemon tells me 16d 42m thats 5,5hr less.
So i decide to check sentry drones 5, 19d 6h 9m 36s - evemon 19d 9m, 6hr less.
the lvl 4 takes 3d 9hr 41m 58s - evemon/eve 3d 8hr 38m 18s, 1hr 15m less.
(mapped for perc - will )
So for only these 3 skill lvls with a high mapping for the atributes i will need an aditional time of 12hr 45m
If I would plan to train all caldari and amarr cruiser to 5 they will both need 5,5hr to long so 11hr for both and thats only for the last lvl the other lvls will also take longer.
THATS NO GOOD
my mappings
Current TQ
int 22
perc 33
char 19
will 25
mem 22
Current SISI
int 22
perc 32
char 22
will 26
mem 22
looks like some thing got mixed up in the mapping |
Matelion |
Posted - 2010.12.04 18:45:00 - [ 214]
Edited by: Matelion on 04/12/2010 18:45:33
Hello,
Skill points applied from Certification Planner (right click on skill box then "Apply Skill Points") does not update skill level in this window and does not show claim certificate icon. After reopen window all is ok. |
Renora Lang |
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:18:00 - [ 215]
Just checked two accounts, everything looks good as far as SP reimbursement and bonus. I am actually very impressed.
Good job CCP.
On another note, been following this thread and also very impressed with CCP involvement, participation, and responsiveness on this forum. It is so much better when CCP communicates with us and shows interest. Much improved customer support (at least with testing anyway)
Keep up the good work CCP. |
Beluntz |
Posted - 2010.12.04 19:20:00 - [ 216]
I fully tested last night, and I didn't get 5m SP like it said I would, could someone check into this? |
Corpral Nobbs
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
|
Posted - 2010.12.04 21:56:00 - [ 217]
All looks fine on 4 toons Nice work CCP  |
Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp |
Posted - 2010.12.04 22:07:00 - [ 218]
Unfortunately it did not went well.
The skillbook reimbursement is not correct:
In an office, in a container the following learning skills:
2x Instant recall - 45000 ISK/piece
4x Iron will - 45000 ISK/piece
1x empathy - 45000 ISK/piece
1x learning - 31500 ISK/piece
2x spatial awareness - 45000 ISK/piece
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After the changes I was reimbursed with 135 000 ISK, and 1+2+4 Pax Amarria book.
So that means I got money for the empathy plus: either the Instant recall or the Spatial awareness skill.
The others where converted to Pax Amarria.
So CCP, restore the backup, and try again ! You are owning me additional 301 500 ISK.
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viewtifuljoe |
Posted - 2010.12.04 22:57:00 - [ 219]
Hi there,
I was training mining barge level 5 when the learning skill points have dispeared.
the thing is that i had only 4 days left till i get to level 5 and it restarted my skill.
I was forced to use the 5 million sp bonus to get it to level 5.
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Ps: Excuse me if my english is not good, its not my primarily language |
Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc. |
Posted - 2010.12.04 23:37:00 - [ 220]
I got my bonus points as expected but this character (Palovana) has 783,376 extra bonus points.
Learning reimbursement: 5,376,000 SP
Testing participation: 5,000,000 SP
Unknown points: 783,376 SP
Total unallocated SP: 11,159,376 SP
Did I get hit with some kind of bug that I didn't see and this is the fix for that? I know my total SP on Sisi lags behind TQ a bit but never took notice of the specific number. Was this the "previously paused skill losing points" that was mentioned earlier?
Not complaining, just want to make sure you know about it so bad things don't happen when this goes live.
|
Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
Spreadsheets Online |
Posted - 2010.12.05 00:33:00 - [ 221]
I got the 5mil and the reimbursed sp i lost on active skill. As far as i can tell. everything worked out well. |
Lusk Mandron |
Posted - 2010.12.05 01:20:00 - [ 222]
I'm another one that ended up with some extra skillpoints.
- 2,238,409 learning sps trained
- Started training a learning skill an hour before cutoff
- Ended up with 7,667,327 (2,667,327)
So I guess I trained 400,000+ sps between the cutoff and downtime. |
Sabr Sheppard
Gallente
Brotherhood of Redemption
Seven Seas Alliance |
Posted - 2010.12.05 09:18:00 - [ 223]
As far as I could tell from the short amount of time I was on Sisi Friday night it worked fine. I didn't notice if I was affected by the Skill Point Reset bug. Also at the time I logged in I didn't have my 5M additional SP, though reading on you said that they were given out Saturday morning. I was going to hop on at the time of writing this but for some reason, Sisi is down. Also could the problem with Sisi's market prices please be fixed. It's hard to test things when stuff costs 125% more than usual. |
DEVIL ANXIETY
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2010.12.05 09:23:00 - [ 224]
worked fine with no issues. loaded new skills and level 5'ed others - smooth. |
SuZiE DeMaRcHi
Caldari
Working For The Enemy Federation |
Posted - 2010.12.05 12:20:00 - [ 225]
Um like is the test server broken or something lolz been down for about 6 hours now or did i miss something and there was a scheduled downtime again just asking as i would love to see if i got my bonus =) |
Zilnam Haa
Gallente |
Posted - 2010.12.05 16:19:00 - [ 226]
Set Learning Skill to lvl5 - Logged in Saturday - ALL #'s correct. Well Done Dev's! Can we haz this BEFORE Xmas? Purdy Plz with Beer on top  Takk fyrir |
Nam Dnilb |
Posted - 2010.12.05 17:07:00 - [ 227]
I have somehow unlearned the "Mechanic" skill completely!  It's been Level V on TQ for quite some time and even on Sisi I still have "Hull Upgrades V" which has "Mechanic III" as a prereq. Bug report 104098 has been filed. |
Tarun Metis |
Posted - 2010.12.05 17:27:00 - [ 228]
Seems to work fine for my 2 accounts:
Learning skills removed
Learning skills points reimbursed
I'll check for other parts of the cut-over but looks good so far. |
CCP Stillman
 |
Posted - 2010.12.05 18:54:00 - [ 229]
 Originally by: Nam Dnilb
I have somehow unlearned the "Mechanic" skill completely! It's been Level V on TQ for quite some time and even on Sisi I still have "Hull Upgrades V" which has "Mechanic III" as a prereq.
Bug report 104098 has been filed.
|
Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy |
Posted - 2010.12.05 19:04:00 - [ 230]
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CCP Stillman
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Posted - 2010.12.05 20:01:00 - [ 231]
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Bongvir |
Posted - 2010.12.05 20:13:00 - [ 232]
Khm... at first glance it all seemed fine. Then again the first glance was with my main char. I now got the time to properly sit down and go look at stuff on every character on my first account.
Everything is fine with main char (who had the skill training while the change happened). He has correct amount of SP (with the bonus amount rewarded as well). Second character (this one) .. now I am not entirely sure as I have not trained this char for quite a while, but if possible it would be great if you would look into logs if I indeed had remapped this achura character for MAX charisma. Not saying it's impossible just cant think of anything why would I have done it in the past.
Minor note about the NPC corp hauling alt on the same account. She has received the bonus SP as well for total of 5 940 953 SP. She did not have skill in training in SiSi, but she was the one training when the mirror was taken. As bonus SP is not rewarded in TQ this seems not critical - I just have bonus SP on 2 chars (~9 mil sp on main and 5.94 mil on NPC corp alt) on same account in SiSi :p In TQ the NPC corp hauling alt has 917 813 sp in learning.
Additional scenario I am unable to test on SiSi, if possible it might make sense to chek how this works (if this is even possible currently). In the past, when you transferred character to another account it was possible to have 2 characters training on the same account. For that you set long skill in training on both accounts, then transferred character from one account to another - then you had 2 chars training on the same account until one of them stopped the skill or skill finished on one of them. If this is still possible it would make sense to chek that this removal of learnings does not mess something up in there. |
Nam Dnilb |
Posted - 2010.12.05 20:18:00 - [ 233]
Originally by: CCP Stillman
The latter. I'm amazed, but also already figured out what happened 
I'm amazing! Knew it all along. \o/ btw, I have stopped fiddling with the char, to not spoil your analysis of the bug. Do you mind if I continue my :testing:? I have enough SP left to bring back the manic mechanic! |
CCP Stillman
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Posted - 2010.12.05 20:57:00 - [ 234]
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Feather Storm
Gallente
The Lunatic Collective
Corcoran State |
Posted - 2010.12.06 00:10:00 - [ 235]
just logged in to check all learning skill points refunded and 5 mil bonus plus lost training sp as well all good |
Laventhros Ormus |
Posted - 2010.12.06 05:23:00 - [ 236]
I wanted to.
But to be honest, if you (CCP) want us to participate in these things..
It'd be nice if you made patching to SiSi easier.
Every single time you patch SiSi, i have to copy over my Eve client and then get the patch from some third-party site..
Since its not hosted anywhere on Eve's site.
This is quite annoying and a bit of a put off. |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2010.12.06 05:42:00 - [ 237]
Originally by: Laventhros Ormus
I wanted to.
But to be honest, if you (CCP) want us to participate in these things..
It'd be nice if you made patching to SiSi easier.
Every single time you patch SiSi, i have to copy over my Eve client and then get the patch from some third-party site..
Since its not hosted anywhere on Eve's site.
This is quite annoying and a bit of a put off.
no you don't, it's even in the post asking for to help, there is a new sisi launcher, it makes the copy for you, it patches it automatically, and it even logs you into the right server. there is even a sticky about it. |
CCP Stillman
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Posted - 2010.12.06 09:40:00 - [ 238]
Originally by: Lost Hamster
Unfortunately it did not went well.
The skillbook reimbursement is not correct:
In an office, in a container the following learning skills:
2x Instant recall - 45000 ISK/piece
4x Iron will - 45000 ISK/piece
1x empathy - 45000 ISK/piece
1x learning - 31500 ISK/piece
2x spatial awareness - 45000 ISK/piece
-------------------
After the changes I was reimbursed with 135 000 ISK, and 1+2+4 Pax Amarria book.
So that means I got money for the empathy plus: either the Instant recall or the Spatial awareness skill.
The others where converted to Pax Amarria.
So CCP, restore the backup, and try again ! You are owning me additional 301 500 ISK.
I had a look at this, and we're aware of this issue. Same issue as Nam Dnilb |
Lost Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp |
Posted - 2010.12.06 09:48:00 - [ 239]
Originally by: CCP Stillman
I had a look at this, and we're aware of this issue. Same issue as Nam Dnilb
I hope you can figure out what went wrong, before the patch hits TQ  If you need any more information, then feel free to contact me. |
Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation |
Posted - 2010.12.06 10:32:00 - [ 240]
refund skill point Ok for 2 Alt charactere and seems to be good for main which training a skill too
Gm Cash transfer for refund skill boot to charactere & corp => Ok
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