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Bill Spark
Posted - 2010.12.01 15:48:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Des'tai Wushyr
Not meaning to be rude but how would 5 mil on a test server only be an incentive for us to stop our training que on Tranquility for a period of 36 hours or more? We can't interact with our Corp's Can't make any transactions or actions that have to do with the real server and then in 3 weeks it goes away. It's actually going to provide more frustration at seeing what one could have but with the knowledge that it doesn't count and won't be permanent.
Why on earth would you stop your skill que on tranquility? And who said that you will have to spend the entire time on Sisi? You just log in, set your skill on Sisi, go back to tq and do whatever you want then log in to Sisi and try out the system.

Mme Pinkerton
The pink win
Posted - 2010.12.01 15:49:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Des'tai Wushyr
Not meaning to be rude but how would 5 mil on a test server only be an incentive for us to stop our training que on Tranquility for a period of 36 hours or more?


Why would taking part in this mass-test interfere with your business on Tranquility? Shocked

nobody asks you to stop your learning queue on tq - and imo extra SP on sisi can be useful to decide which skills to train next on tq (always try before buy ;) - if not having each skill at lvl V is frustrating to you, you have to play EVE in a constant state of denial as is... Neutral


Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:02:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Des'tai Wushyr
Not meaning to be rude but how would 5 mil on a test server only be an incentive for us to stop our training que on Tranquility for a period of 36 hours or more? We can't interact with our Corp's Can't make any transactions or actions that have to do with the real server and then in 3 weeks it goes away. It's actually going to provide more frustration at seeing what one could have but with the knowledge that it doesn't count and won't be permanent.

It is on the test server you are supposed to set this skill, not on TQ. Rolling Eyes

Des'tai Wushyr
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:03:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Mme Pinkerton
Originally by: Des'tai Wushyr
Not meaning to be rude but how would 5 mil on a test server only be an incentive for us to stop our training que on Tranquility for a period of 36 hours or more?


Why would taking part in this mass-test interfere with your business on Tranquility? Shocked

nobody asks you to stop your learning queue on tq - and imo extra SP on sisi can be useful to decide which skills to train next on tq (always try before buy ;) - if not having each skill at lvl V is frustrating to you, you have to play EVE in a constant state of denial as is... [:|



I realize now that both servers are independent of each other and aren't in conflict. I have set the que in singularity and am happy to help.

Gehen Sealbreaker
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:04:00 - [35]
 

I just logged on Sisi and started training Starbase Defense Management V... Should last long enough :D

Side note : the new Sisi Launcher is impressive ! All is automated now, no more creating shortcuts with custom parameters and so on - so everybody should be able to log on Singularity.

P.S. : Yay ! Noctis to redeem ! Thanks, I wanted to give it a try :)

xUnkn0wn
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:05:00 - [36]
 

So when the the change happens on TQ on the 14th..do ppl who help now with this get 5m extra on TQ or do we just get it now on Sisi to test around with?

Good! Just log into Singularity, set a skill queue that lasts till at least Friday 01.30 GMT. When you then log in on Saturday, check if all your skill points were reimbursed as expected. If they weren’t, file a bug-report. Having done that, spend your newly available skill points we’ve given you on Singularity into whatever your heart desires and enjoy the weekend, (((((knowing that the same will soon happen on Tranquility thanks to your help!))))))))

CCP Stillman

Posted - 2010.12.01 16:05:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Des'tai Wushyr

Not meaning to be rude but how would 5 mil on a test server only be an incentive for us to stop our training que on Tranquility for a period of 36 hours or more? We can't interact with our Corp's Can't make any transactions or actions that have to do with the real server and then in 3 weeks it goes away. It's actually going to provide more frustration at seeing what one could have but with the knowledge that it doesn't count and won't be permanent.

Setting a skill on Singularity does not affect anything on Tranquility. Singularity is a "copy" of Tranquility, which runs totally indepdentently. So nothing you do on Singularity will have any effect on Tranquility.

As others mention, this is a very small thing we're asking everybody to do. It's literally a couple of minutes of work Smile

CCP Stillman

Posted - 2010.12.01 16:05:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: CCP Hypnotic
I have a bunch of learning skill books left over in the corp hanger. I will be hiding them all over EVE like an Easter egg hunt to make sure I still get reimbursed correctly. In corp hangers, in personal hangers, in anchored cans, in station vaults inside corp hangers in 0.0 systems, Etc,. There is a spreadsheet. Laughing


You just like making my life hard, don't you? ugh

Tonto Auri
Vhero' Multipurpose Corp
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:07:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Des'tai Wushyr
Not meaning to be rude but how would 5 mil on a test server only be an incentive for us to stop our training que on Tranquility for a period of 36 hours or more?

Wat? Who on earth told you to do that?

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We can't interact with our Corp's Can't make any transactions or actions that have to do with the real server

Waaat? What the hell you're talking about, dude?
Singularity is absolutely parallel to Tranquility.
Nothing you do on it would impact you on TQ (well, as long as you're not being an idiot and not breaking SiSi rules, which, when fairly relaxing, have a few explicit denial statememnts you MUST obey to.)
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and then in 3 weeks it goes away.

You concerned?

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It's actually going to provide more frustration

Actually, it's you providing frustration. If it's hard for you to understand the concept of a test server, don't visit this forum any more, thanks.

CCP Hypnotic

Posted - 2010.12.01 16:10:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Assaj Ventress
So these 5m SP won't survive sisi mirrors as other mass testing 2m sp gifts did?


Those skill points survived because the Mass Test Master CCP Habakuk manually gave them out again after the mirror. He did this because the mirror was so close to the last mass test (only a few days after) and because he's an all around nice guy. I'm not so nice and think about a month is plenty of time to play around with new skills and ship types on Singularity you don't have the skills for on TQ.

Remember, if you have all learning skills a V and participate in this mass test you will end up with over 10 million skill points to apply as you like on Singularity. Sounds like a sweet deal to me for only a few minutes work. Even if it only lasts for a few weeks.

Hallane
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:20:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Hallane on 01/12/2010 16:36:04
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Lan Staz
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:25:00 - [42]
 

Will a paused skill queue qualify?

I'd like to test the case where I have a learning skill in a paused skill queue at 1:30 on Friday, but I'd prefer not to lose out on the 5m SP.

Des'tai Wushyr
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:31:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Tonto Auri
Originally by: Des'tai Wushyr
Not meaning to be rude but how would 5 mil on a test server only be an incentive for us to stop our training que on Tranquility for a period of 36 hours or more?

Wat? Who on earth told you to do that?

Quote:
We can't interact with our Corp's Can't make any transactions or actions that have to do with the real server

Waaat? What the hell you're talking about, dude?
Singularity is absolutely parallel to Tranquility.
Nothing you do on it would impact you on TQ (well, as long as you're not being an idiot and not breaking SiSi rules, which, when fairly relaxing, have a few explicit denial statememnts you MUST obey to.)
Quote:
and then in 3 weeks it goes away.

You concerned?

Quote:
It's actually going to provide more frustration

Actually, it's you providing frustration. If it's hard for you to understand the concept of a test server, don't visit this forum any more, thanks.


Apparently you don't read through all posts before you comment. My question had not been brought up previously, I did post a retraction to my comment. I'm new to the game and am entiled to ask any questions I wish and if you can't post to a forumn without respecting that people make the ocassionaly mistake then perhaps it is you who should cease viisting them. I have set the que on singularity and am happy to help as I have stated.

Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:35:00 - [44]
 

Notes for Mac users.

1) The autoupdate does not work.

2) The SiSi full client download delivers (at least to me) a damaged DMG archive that cannot be opened.

3) The instructions on how to make a SiSi client in the stickied thread point to a page on the wiki with no Mac-specific info.

4) The correct way to get this running on the Mac is to make a copy of your current TQ app and preferences, then edit the Info.plist in the package to point to both the new preferences file and add the key/value pair that tells the client to talk to SiSi, as documented on this wiki page.

5) Mac users should get 10m SP instead of 5 to compensate for the extra aggravation. Twisted Evil

Lunaon
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:46:00 - [45]
 

Some people just can't read. Rolling Eyes

Toscaria
Amarr
Creative Cookie Procuring
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:49:00 - [46]
 

Starting my queue now, but!

I have one quick question for you since I am confused by this reimbursement process. By having us set a long skill, do you intend to put our reimbursed skillpoints into the active skill in the queue?

I was under the impression that this reimbursement would happen as it has in the past: We receive X amount of SP from CCP which we can then apply to whatever skills we like in whatever amounts we like. But this process seems like you want to plug our reimbursed SP directly into our skill queue? Seems odd; I would appreciate it if you would clear up this little detail.

Blind Philip
Posted - 2010.12.01 16:55:00 - [47]
 

Much love for the SISI launcher fixes CCP

Denuo Secus
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:00:00 - [48]
 

Long skills set, on two accounts Very Happy

Thanks so much for this possibility!

Kary Tamona
Crom Demons
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:01:00 - [49]
 

Skill set :)

Idle question, for someone with pretty much all non capital combat skills trained, how many SP are needed to fly a poorly fitted titan? Will the 10 million SP I'll get this weekend suffice? Any hint how to spend those SP to get to fly a titan?

Manipulator General
o.0
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:11:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: Manipulator General on 01/12/2010 17:14:04
Originally by: CCP Stillman

But what do I get?
Beyond the fact you of course will be getting the SP you have invested in learning skill back, we will running on the same principle as mass tests do. You help out, you get extra skill points on Singularity to use!


Sweet, count me in.

Edit - just noticed the Singularity part, nvm.

Emma Royd
Caldari
Maddled Gommerils
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:26:00 - [51]
 

3 Chars done, various skills, 1 learning, 1 with 2 skills, and 1 28 day

LightBinger
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:39:00 - [52]
 

I would love to help with this.

Anyone know where to download the test server so i can particapate with this?

Thank you kindly.

Rancer Hoard
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:40:00 - [53]
 

Ehm guys...sorry if i dont understand...wht kind of skill queue i should set?''normal'' skills, learning skills, or whatever i want??

Almgard
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:44:00 - [54]
 

Well...i think if ccp give 5m sp for this on TQ server,well,now singularity will be overheated and blowed up by the huge increase of number of players in it =)=)

Raid'En
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:45:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Raid''En on 01/12/2010 17:45:25

the SP reward willl be on the char with training active i suppose ?
others char on account won't get it, so we have to activate the skills queue on the char we want free SPs ?

also did you though about trying to set up a skill which will finish DURING the DT on sisi to try to break things ?

Greshick
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:54:00 - [56]
 

Clarity 5 set :)

Jacob Straven
Caldari
Evil Monkey Asylum
Twisted Aggression
Posted - 2010.12.01 17:55:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: Jacob Straven on 01/12/2010 17:55:57
Queue set :)

Edit: NVM question already answered elsewhere :P

Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2010.12.01 18:04:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Rancer Hoard
Ehm guys...sorry if i dont understand...wht kind of skill queue i should set?''normal'' skills, learning skills, or whatever i want??
Whatever you wish. Some are setting learning skills simply to see if it breaks the system.

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2010.12.01 18:13:00 - [59]
 

4 chars now training on Sisi Cool

AND

...The Sisi launcher is pretty cool...

Rita Ace
Posted - 2010.12.01 18:14:00 - [60]
 

Edited by: Rita Ace on 01/12/2010 18:22:21
Edited by: Rita Ace on 01/12/2010 18:21:46
just logged onto singularity... pretty cool.

i'm just a little sad my copied account doesn't have much of the nice things i progressed to already. I guess the last mirror happened when i was still pretty new, so I really went back a few steps. ugh gotta go nab me some skillbooks to actually train!

**EDIT**

oh I guess I was just being dumb, I forgot to uncheck my "skills that fit" checkbox... hehe Embarassed

but is there another way to open singularity than from the link here? because I didn't see any programs installed and I know no other way


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