Posted - 2010.11.03 11:43:00 - [2]

 

Reserved for features list!

Posted - 2010.11.03 15:09:00 - [4]

 

Hi,

They way I see it that people would rather have a known working forum that is made ready for eve, rather than having something for eve made ready to be a forum.
I'm currently the lead developer from the API mod for phpBB 3.
I supply users with both the premodded forum files as well as an XML files for them to mod it manually, in case they have other mods running.
Let's assume somebody wants my package without any other mods on it.
All they have to do is this:
- Upload the premodded files to their installation
- Execute SQL

I guess it's only a few minutes work.
Manually editing for a template needs to be done aswell, but that's for them to decide. In any case not relevant for your or my project, since I'm guessing you won't supply them with tons of pre-editted templates either.

Bottom line, no offence meant, I think you will be wasting your time to start developing a forum from an EVE-API point of view.

Hope this helps.

~Cyerus

Posted - 2010.11.16 18:00:00 - [6]

 

Personally, I think there's a lot of value in a custom eve-specific forum. I've used the API validation plugin in SMF, but it only goes so far and I've been considering making a custom forum for a while now. Doing a half-assed job making an Eve forum from scratch isn't going to do anyone any good, but making a real, high-quality Eve forum can be fantastic.

In addition, IMHO, I think most PHP forums are still stuck in Web 1.0, or with some mods, at most Web 1.5. :) So doing something from scratch today *can* product a much nicer Web 2.0 site.

Uri

Posted - 2010.11.18 14:18:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: Helgur

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Why should someone put 100's of manhours into making a half decent forum software, when many existing packages that work great with 3rd party plugins already exist? What new would such a forum bring to the users, if any?

Making a forum like this would not be *any* different from coding a module for an existing forum package. You still would have to whip up the same type of code to communicate with the XML API servers.

Frankly, I don't see the point. Please enlighten me.

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I think people are missing the point of this post. The question wasn't is it worth doing it is what features would you like to see. This could mean adding features to an existing module or coding something from scratch. I was just interested to see if there were any features that are not available now that people would like to see.

-TW-

Posted - 2010.11.21 04:23:00 - [10]

 

However it is done (existing forums or a new system) what would be nice as API features...hrm.
There are certainly a lot of things but here are a few ideas that come from the top of my head as I'm writing this post.

User / Corporation Details
Usually the setups I've seen are somewhat like: There's a user, the user is in a group which has the name of the corporation. Nice thing. But it would be so much more cooler if the default user profile information would display the users main characters (imported via API of course) info just like stuff that's shown in the ingame showinfo window. Same goes for "Corporation Groups" and the publicly available corp info.

Mini "EvE Mon"
Name should say it all. Just to give users a short overview over their skills / skill queues inside the forum without the need for external applications. Optionally allow them to share that information with corp members (either for everyone or just the guys in charge of stuff)

EVE Mails Ohyeah
Co-Existing with the usual PM System import EVE Mails from the API and maybe even allow responding to an EVE-Mail via a forum PM directly with one hit of a button (since you sadly can't push evemails into the system from external websites other than evegate)

A little sidenote about API registration mods. It's fine to have them but i usually don't use them and don't like them. Most applications allow you full access just based on your API automatically. For corporation / alliance forums it's a nightmare since basically anyone who has my API data can create an account and pretend it's me. And A LOT of people have my API information, in some cases they have even the full key. Yeah right I trust them enough not to do such stuff but in general this is a major security leak for a forum where sensitive matters are handled.

Posted - 2010.11.21 12:07:00 - [12]

 

What I would like is the following. It's a bit big, but it'd help with recruiting tremendously.

There are 2 parts to recruiting.

First, you want to know which corp the character AND THEIR ALTS are in and have been in for security reasons.
Secondly, you'd want to know if, and if not how far off, they are off your standard fittings.

For the second part you'd need some basic kind of Eve Fitting Tool-esque tool, which preferrably also exports to the XML format used by EVE. It doesn't really have to include resists, damage et all, though it would be a nice extra.

The script should then check if the character can use each corp fit. If not, ideally it should give how many days the character would need to fly the fit.

In this way, the corp can put down his standard sniper fit (T2 arties, sensor boosters, etc you know) and if the character would only need like 7 days to complete Large Projectiles to lvl 5 and can start training T2 arties right away, it'd be no problem. But if he'd need another 60 days just to get the artilleries, maybe you'd decide not to take the character until he's closer to the things he needs for your corp.

Just my 2 pennies.

Posted - 2010.11.23 17:48:00 - [14]

 

Originally by: Gemberslaafje

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Secondly, you'd want to know if, and if not how far off, they are off your standard fittings.

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Interesting idea. I had thought of passing basic skill information along with the recruitment app, and even capabilities to fly certain ship classes, but not matching it to a specific fit. Digging through the skill list can be quite a chore, but a simple list of checkboxes next to several fits would be a really quick and easy way to judge a new recruit. Could be great for the recruit as well so they know exactly what they need to train asap. Of course they shouldn't see the fit until they're accepted into the corp - don't want to give away your PVP fits.

I know the certificate system has all sorts of problems, but some of them are nice shortcuts for understanding where a character is at. Passing along whether they have Core Competency, for example, might be interesting.

Internally, we have a ranking program for mission runners that is partly based on skills, fittings, and certificates. Having some of that be available through a forum could streamline things a bit.