Posted - 2010.10.24 21:22:00 - [2]

 

All I can think of is your fully passive tanked Drake and Nighthawk.

Posted - 2010.10.24 23:14:00 - [4]

 

Edited by: Lady Spank on 24/10/2010 23:19:11
Mostly shield ones that have terrible hull ehp or have good enough shield buffers without one that would benefit more from damage mods (3 damage mods, 2 tracking enhancers as a max generally).

Ultimately you are choosing between fitting a dc or extra damage. I can't think of an example where I would fit anything over a dc except for improved dps.....

A common exception is when armour tanking perma tank PVE setups but even then I would personally to use a dc over a second eanm just for those ohshiiiii moments.

Posted - 2010.10.24 23:33:00 - [6]

 

I suppose I should have simplified and said start your EFT warrioring with a suitcase and leave it there till the ship is fitted. Only then play around to see if you can live without it or swapping it over gives a significant advantage

Always consider the advantage it gives when your tank breaks and you need to GTFO or survive a little longer.

Posted - 2010.10.25 04:46:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: omgfreemoniez

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What PvP ships should NOT be fitted with this module (apart from some frigates). I can't think of any.

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Any carebear ship Many shieldtank ships. Ninja snipers w/o tank.

Also there are lots of ships which can be gitted with a DCU and may be not. For exanple, I'd personally prefer x2 Gyro x2 TE x1 Nanofiber in vaga lowslots... or even x3 Gyro - x2 TE.

Posted - 2010.10.25 17:21:00 - [10]

 

Edited by: Abdiel Kavash on 25/10/2010 17:23:31
Freighters.

But seriously, most shield-tanked ships can find better stuff to fit there (SPR for PvE, damage or speed mods for PvP). Industrial ships will fit extra cargo space or warp stabs instead. Some armor tanked ships (especially native shield tanks refitted to armor tank) will be better off with an EANM or a specific resist, especially in fleets where hull HP is irrelevant. Small stuff (frigates, destroyers) don't have enough lows to fit a DC.

Posted - 2010.10.26 12:37:00 - [12]

 

Edited by: Inara Tyana on 26/10/2010 12:41:20
some shield recons and other T2/faction cruisers are entirely viable without DC's. Since in many cases they are sporting LSE's, the ehp increase from a DC is negligible compared to a pds.
Edit* dc would be better in most cases, however my point was in many T2 cruisers, the ehp increase is at times not worth giving up a lowslot.

Posted - 2010.10.26 19:25:00 - [14]

 

Edited by: Indeterminacy on 26/10/2010 19:27:22

Originally by: Malcanis

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Originally by: omgfreemoniez

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What PvP ships should NOT be fitted with this module (apart from some frigates). I can't think of any.

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Snipe cerb, maybe?

Rook definitely. I guess Falcon as well.

But any Battlecruiser+ hull should always have a DCU IMO.

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cerb no suitcase
Reactor Control Unit II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

used this fit for a while, with success. though always have scimis/basis (usually scimis) in fleet. got bombed to hell once by over 9000 bombers. suitcase wouldn't have helped.

Posted - 2010.10.26 23:26:00 - [16]

 

Curse. Vagabond. Falcon. Rapier.

There may be a few other ones as well.

Posted - 2010.10.27 10:29:00 - [18]

 

There is no ship that SHOULD NOT fit a DC, there are ships that MAY NOT fit DC due to the intended fole fitting. Else DC is one of the most vaulable modules there is.

Posted - 2010.10.27 12:12:00 - [20]

 

Damage control resists don't stack with resists from other modules, which is why they're really good even on active tanked ships.

Posted - 2010.10.28 21:01:00 - [22]

 

Strategic cruisers. Between their lolworthy structure hit points, lack of shield/armor subsystem bonuses to hull, and the absurd resists that T3 ships have to offer, our favorite T2 suitcase is rarely actually worth bringing along

Fit a HAM-Buffer legion some time. Notice how little the DC2 actually offers compared to a 2nd EANM.