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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.15 21:03:00 - [331]
 

I can confirm that female avatars are indeed in the current build. There are just some really nasty bugs that prevent them from showing up.

As a workaround clicking on the randomize all button several times make the female avatar eventually show up.

The main reason most of them are invisible seem to be the hair styles. Except one or two, all of them turn the female Avatar invisible again. The same with the outer clothing. Trying to make a selection turns the avatar invisible again with no option to go back, so the creation cannot be completed right now.

adalyn mea
Posted - 2010.11.15 21:06:00 - [332]
 

well at least i know its not me then, thanks for that.

Idami Raptor
Gallente
E.A.D Alliance
Omega Vector
Posted - 2010.11.15 21:09:00 - [333]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
I can confirm that female avatars are indeed in the current build. There are just some really nasty bugs that prevent them from showing up.

As a workaround clicking on the randomize all button several times make the female avatar eventually show up.

The main reason most of them are invisible seem to be the hair styles. Except one or two, all of them turn the female Avatar invisible again. The same with the outer clothing. Trying to make a selection turns the avatar invisible again with no option to go back, so the creation cannot be completed right now.


I clicked randomize all over and over and over again and nothing appeared. If what you say is true, then the combination of settings that allow the character to actually appear is so specific that for all intents and purposes, female characters aren't in the build. The assets might be there, but if they're not visible almost all the time, then they might as well not be.

Bella Delacier
Posted - 2010.11.15 21:22:00 - [334]
 

Well for what its worth, I personally think this tool has made huge progress since the trials started, its clearly still work in progress, but the mechanics of the character creator now promise to be very good indeed.Having followed this thread since the start of round one, its clear that the Developers are actually listening to the feedback on this Forum!

Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.15 21:36:00 - [335]
 

I managed to complete one Avatar, here I present you: Mikka Hakinnen, Miss Caldari YC112 and the most often used pin-up-girl in caldari soldier barracks. A strong reminder to any Caldari soldier to fight as far away from home as possible:

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Gray Phantom
Posted - 2010.11.15 22:27:00 - [336]
 

Ok here I go.

I logged into a character, said yes to use the system.

Hit WSC to check i was on high graphics settings (I was, everything set to high)
Switched Bloom from none to low.
Back to character generation and there are no lines or design behind him

minimise all option dropdowns and click on body parts -
Legs - Hairstyle and eyebrow dropdowns open????

Cant adjust the Shape sliders

Hair choices kept changing to bright orance and the colour wheel didnt work to change colour

facial hair does not work

BUT MOST OF ALL -
Most people took time to create their original portrait. Can we not have that on shown so was can try and at least get something similar to our current portraits?????

Jack' Sparrow
Minmatar
J0urneys End
Journeys End Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.15 23:29:00 - [337]
 

Edited by: Jack'' Sparrow on 15/11/2010 23:31:28
From reading the reply I got to my last post I have to say I am not very happy that you cant keep your original portrait. We pay good money to play Eve and should have the right to keep our own original character portraits and have a walking in stations character as well but so it doesn't affect the portrait. So simple yet they didn't think of it. I hope CCP read this reply as well.

Baffled but cheers I guess

Jack

Warp Warrior
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.11.15 23:34:00 - [338]
 

Well, personaly, it would really interest me, if lets say there would be a possibility to change the bloodline at least, since we'll change the portrait, so i guess bloodline should do much harm :)

Oakatsura
Posted - 2010.11.15 23:58:00 - [339]
 

Having a problem loading up any kind of a visual on the Character creator tool system, the toolsets come up fine, but no slider grid or visuals what so ever...

Set my settings from Low - High to see if it was a graphics problem, but nothing seemed to bring up avatars or my characters visuals.

Qatanqo
Posted - 2010.11.16 00:16:00 - [340]
 

I hear there will be last day too test your character upgrade on sisi. Now my question can there also be transseksueel upgrade, as i not satified with the female face i have now i want all my charaters be male.

Qatanqo

Scarlet Charlotte
Amarr
Posted - 2010.11.16 01:12:00 - [341]
 

Originally by: amarian arch
Edited by: amarian arch on 13/11/2010 08:11:00
Originally by: Joshua Deakin
Originally by: amarian arch
Make a non ridiculously old looking true amarr character!


This is about as young as you can get with the current build: Still old Amarr male


my best attempt so far amarr male youngerish
They all still end up looking old like bill nighy's or german/italians with crazy profound cheek bones.

I had a go at it and this is what I came up with:
Youngish Amarr
Not really young, but it's the best I could do. The amarr looked older than the other races in the original character creator, so I guess CCP meant for the Amarr to look old.

Damion Rayne
Gallente
Dark-Rising
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2010.11.16 01:15:00 - [342]
 

Originally by: Jack' Sparrow
Edited by: Jack'' Sparrow on 15/11/2010 23:31:28
From reading the reply I got to my last post I have to say I am not very happy that you cant keep your original portrait. We pay good money to play Eve and should have the right to keep our own original character portraits and have a walking in stations character as well but so it doesn't affect the portrait. So simple yet they didn't think of it. I hope CCP read this reply as well.

Baffled but cheers I guess

Jack


Seriously, "I pay good money" so does everyone else mate, get over yourself. I'm really very sick of all the moaning here, you're not gona get to keep your original photo people..defeats the whole damn purpose of a new char-gen. Stop asking for sliders, that defeats the purpose of "Sculpting". Seriously if you can't handle this, you need to take a good solid look at other MMO's.

Now onward and upward to "feedback" instead of "*****/moan/whine".

Still having distinct issues with female characters showing up at all, I've tried changing all gfx settings but nothing seems to work at the moment.

Wongnim
Posted - 2010.11.16 01:49:00 - [343]
 

I dislike greatly how you go about selecting options for the character now, it makes it very tedious to find just what you want when you can only see three options at a time, instead I think you should have it so when you select a catagory, it fills the screen with options, and you pick what you like. Also, for something like the backrounds, I like the selection and all, but I think you should get rid of repeats but rather instead you should have the base ones and give the player the ability to change the colors or brightness and such, just in case if someone ever wanted lime green for a backround color :P

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2010.11.16 02:15:00 - [344]
 

Originally by: Wongnim
I dislike greatly how you go about selecting options for the character now, it makes it very tedious to find just what you want when you can only see three options at a time, instead I think you should have it so when you select a catagory, it fills the screen with options, and you pick what you like. Also, for something like the backrounds, I like the selection and all, but I think you should get rid of repeats but rather instead you should have the base ones and give the player the ability to change the colors or brightness and such, just in case if someone ever wanted lime green for a backround color :P


actully if all those little boxes flew out to locations around your charatcer that would be pretty awesome :P

but honestly, it's not hard, you can see like 9 at a time and you can rotate it by click and dragin inside the wheel.

yes it's still a wheel, just a 3d one.

Asruv'ynn
GeoCorp.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.16 05:31:00 - [345]
 

On max settings, it runs very smoothly and looks nice. Male characters load for the most part; females do not load at all. Out of sheer luck, I managed to load a female model once, but could not use the vertex tool and most features could not be utilized. On the male models, the vertex tool can be difficult to use (e.g. it won't enable the feature for some reason), articles of clothing were buggy, but nevertheless worked. The biggest problems I found with what worked were the color wheel (did not work and had to remove the hair style and re-apply in hopes of a new color) and applications for the skin such as age, scarring and freckles, opacity (could not select any minor change within these).

The most important fixes short term I want are working female models, color wheel, and the 'slider' options for skin/cheek/hair.

Long term, I would like to see more options in clothing, some more 'slider' options in color for hair and skin tone for example and accessories such as a headset, bags/luggage/purses, jewelry, and tattoos/piercings.

Jim Luc
Caldari
Rule of Five
Vera Cruz Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.16 08:42:00 - [346]
 

Among the great ideas here, I hope they allow it so you can move the orientation point for those of us with two or more monitors. Also the image is stretched quite a bit in the beginning when choosing race. If they're pushing for multiple monitors, I would hope they think about it for this aspect of the game as well.

One thing too that I want is the ability to wear pants over boots, instead of tucked in military-style. Or create another boot that is angle-high or something. A great feature that I'm not sure is possible would be allowing us to tuck in shirts, keep them untucked, tuck pants into boots, untuck them, take off a jacket & sling it over your shoulder, etc.

I also noticed that there are lots of types of jackets and shirts, but several are just different colors. Simply allow color modifications, ie first & secondary colors, trim, etc. A leather jacket that can be red, black, brown, etc and have red stripes, no stripes, etc. All the same model & basic garment, yet fully ranged customizations.

Kandrew Dorak
Gallente
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.11.16 09:42:00 - [347]
 

Definitely a great step forward from the first character creator. There were only two things I noticed.
It takes more than one "click" of my scroll wheel to go to the next option. It makes it kind of useless to use the scroll wheel. Also the sliders to adjust weight and muscle didn't seem to change when I tried clicking on them. All I could do was randomize them.
I like that the races finally look a little more unique. I'm not sure what the point is of having two outer layers and an inner layer of clothing. The outer layers obviously don't really work if they're both on. And what happened to being able to change the color of your underwear?

I can't wait to see it when female characters actually work.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2010.11.16 12:36:00 - [348]
 

Originally by: Deviana Sevidon
I managed to complete one Avatar, here I present you: Mikka Hakinnen, Miss Caldari YC112 and the most often used pin-up-girl in caldari soldier barracks. A strong reminder to any Caldari soldier to fight as far away from home as possible:

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

That's a 'what David Coulthard would look like as a women' picture.
Makes me wonder if Caldari soldiers have bad eye sight tbh.

Kabaal S'sylistha
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.11.16 14:18:00 - [349]
 

Edited by: Kabaal S''sylistha on 16/11/2010 15:17:41
Could make 2-3 edits when I went to recreate my char then it would go black and never come back. Gave up after 4 attempts

Edit - The problem seems to be when I attempt to put one of the longer hair styles on my char, Caldari Civire if that helps locate it.

Joshua Deakin
Posted - 2010.11.16 14:25:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: Kandrew Dorak
It takes more than one "click" of my scroll wheel to go to the next option. It makes it kind of useless to use the scroll wheel. Also the sliders to adjust weight and muscle didn't seem to change when I tried clicking on them. All I could do was randomize them.


Yeah, the mousewheel is unusable atm, use drag only. It works reasonably well, it feels like it's designed for touch use. Randomize is the only way to change some of the options. And if you want to change hair color for example, just click the hair option once again to get another color. I personally think it's a bit easier just the "delete" the current hair rather than change to another and then change back. But I'm sure the next version we will be able to use the color pickers / shape sliders as intended.

Cytheras SecondLover
Posted - 2010.11.16 14:28:00 - [351]
 

ISSUE: Crashed when i was examining each race/bloodline/gender using the back and accept buttons too rapidly, i got a C++ error, was on amarrian - male - middle bloodline option.

Rig stats according to Xfire:
Manufacturer:
Sony Corporation
Processor:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory:
2046MB RAM
Hard Drive:
314 GB
Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 210
Monitor:
Plug and Play Monitor
Sound Card:
Realtek HD Audio rear output
Speakers/Headphones:
Keyboard:
USB Root Hub
Mouse:
USB Root Hub
Mouse Surface:
Operating System:
Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.100216-1441)
Motherboard:
Computer Case:

Iece Quaan
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2010.11.16 14:49:00 - [352]
 

Same criticisms as before.

Needs tons more work, more options. Everything I make looks like some kind of space hipster. These characters are transhumans- we need enough options to make them look distinctly alien.

Motorcycle jackets and Hunter Thompson glasses ( in space ) ain't cutting it.

Lurchibles
Posted - 2010.11.16 15:53:00 - [353]
 

So yeah, downloaded the Singularity client and tried to customize a character... I choose to create a new one and enter the "Character Customization" screen.

What do I see? Zilch, Zada, Nothing, Emptyness, Blankness... Space! :( I tried messing around with the shader settings but still no avail! Going to try hitting "randomize" a few dozen times and see what happens...

Guess I can come back when it's more stable!

Yaz Mynne
Gallente
DiamondCutterz
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2010.11.16 16:10:00 - [354]
 

Edited by: Yaz Mynne on 16/11/2010 16:47:13
Finally got the character creator mostly working on the female side. Several of the hairstyles would make it disappear, but if I switched back to bald, it came back. Got the clothes on, although I couldn't click on the full body option so I could see it. Got down to the glasses, decided to try them out, and poof went my creation. No amount of clicking or cursing would bring it back. Oh, well...WIP

EDIT:
I was trying to make an avatar for an old character when I ran into the problem of not being able to see the whole body view. Tried it on a new toon instead, and could select the full view.

K'Daai
Mensa.
Posted - 2010.11.16 16:29:00 - [355]
 

Well thought I'd post some feedback on this char creator thingy:

  • the sculpting thing is an awesome idea but extremely hard to use if you are not a sculptor (any chance for sliders so the non-artists can make something decent?)
  • how do you move the position of the eyes? as in the direction they are staring, I couldnt figure out how to do this one
  • how do you remove makeup and lipstick? didnt seem to work like the removing clothes
  • is there going to be a robe for amarr chracters? as it stands now all the clothes seem to be thought out on the idea of top and bottom pieces - would be really sad if no robes are coming
  • there are now 4 snapshots on the final steps instead of one, will all these 4 be part of your ingame profile or just one?

Aladine
Lambent Enterprises
Posted - 2010.11.16 18:12:00 - [356]
 

No hoods, I want a hood!!!!

Joshua Deakin
Posted - 2010.11.16 19:24:00 - [357]
 

Originally by: K'Daai

the sculpting thing is an awesome idea but extremely hard to use if you are not a sculptor (any chance for sliders so the non-artists can make something decent?)


Using sliders would be no different and actually much harder to get good results. You just need to drag drag drag until it feels right. Turn the head to adjust from different directions. It just takes a bit time to do it. Practice a few times, you'll get the hang of it. You would need a ton of sliders to achieve the same results.

For the "non-artists" there's the "randomize" function Wink

Originally by: K'Daai
how do you move the position of the eyes? as in the direction they are staring, I couldnt figure out how to do this one


You move the eyes not in the sculpting but in the "posing" phase. Atm you can raise/lower your eyebrows, drag the lips to something like a smile/grin/smirk. Pursing lips works too but only accidentaly...

Originally by: K'Daai
how do you remove makeup and lipstick? didnt seem to work like the removing clothes


It should work the same way, just press [x]. It doesn't work always, sometimes the beard or makeup sticks...

Originally by: K'Daai
is there going to be a robe for amarr chracters?


Probably. It's just a prototype with shared features.

Originally by: K'Daai
there are now 4 snapshots on the final steps instead of one, will all these 4 be part of your ingame profile or just one?


Probably just one, but you can take a shot which looks good, take anothe, third and fourth and then decide what's the best. This way you won't loose the pose that actually looked the best.

Jack' Sparrow
Minmatar
J0urneys End
Journeys End Alliance
Posted - 2010.11.16 22:50:00 - [358]
 

Edited by: Jack'' Sparrow on 16/11/2010 22:52:08
Originally by: Damion Rayne
Originally by: Jack' Sparrow
Edited by: Jack'' Sparrow on 15/11/2010 23:31:28
From reading the reply I got to my last post I have to say I am not very happy that you cant keep your original portrait. We pay good money to play Eve and should have the right to keep our own original character portraits and have a walking in stations character as well but so it doesn't affect the portrait. So simple yet they didn't think of it. I hope CCP read this reply as well.

Baffled but cheers I guess

Jack


Seriously, "I pay good money" so does everyone else mate, get over yourself. I'm really very sick of all the moaning here, you're not gona get to keep your original photo people..defeats the whole damn purpose of a new char-gen. Stop asking for sliders, that defeats the purpose of "Sculpting". Seriously if you can't handle this, you need to take a good solid look at other MMO's.

Now onward and upward to "feedback" instead of "*****/moan/whine".

Still having distinct issues with female characters showing up at all, I've tried changing all gfx settings but nothing seems to work at the moment.



Damion you obviously can't read very well my friend. you state I put 'I Pay Good Money' Try reading again and read twice in future before replying. I'm not going to go on about this thing of portraits as CCP will do what they want anyway and I'm just asking for a one way ticket to forum ban to, but seriously Damion, try reading better please.

Apart from that, and yes, this is my last post. What are the Sensible views of the general public on the new character thing? Do you really want to lose your original portraits. If you were a real life space pilot you can't just change what you look like. it's stupid in my opinion.

Look forward to the replies to this one, but I know what to expect Neutral

Jack

AFK Hauler
Posted - 2010.11.16 23:57:00 - [359]
 

I like my eyes and want to keep them as blank.

I see no option to see the eye angle or direction that would allow a blank, white eye.


As of 11/15/2010

Tiny Montgomery
Posted - 2010.11.17 00:06:00 - [360]
 

Wasn't able to use the scales. Not sure if this has been mentioned or is common for everyone. These include the body shape scales and the skin scales (age/freckles/scarring). Had to resort to randomising until the desired combo came up. Weight never did change.

Personally I would like to see some buttons for incrementally changing scales and selections. Buttons (left/right) for selecting eyes, hair, clothes, that would allow to move to the next or previous selection one at a time, would be helpful.

For Deteis, sometimes there was minimal ageing affect even with a high ageing setting. However, when combined with a high freckles setting it seemed to trigger more of an ageing affect. Specifically in regards to a lined forehead. Again, was only able to experiment with this by continually hitting the random button.


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