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Topic |
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact |
Posted - 2010.08.20 13:04:00 - [ 61]
 Originally by: Octavene Ares
<start vent>
Does CCP remember that there is a substantial number of people that play this wonderful internet spaceship game from time zones other than EU and US?
Whose great idea was it to extend downtime on a Friday night for maintenance tasks? That is peak playtime for New Zealand, Australia and several other countries. As it is we always have to put up with DT during our peak playtime, but we have learned to live with that. Now we have yet another extended DT in our peak time....
I'm all for improving the performance of eve in general, but must it all be at the expense of one time zone?
Does this maintenance have to be done on a Friday and could all of us in this part of the world please have a reduced subscription fee considering we can't play as much as we would like?
</end vent>
Someone has to take the shaft on the downtime. Congratulations, its you. |
Brother Philbert |
Posted - 2010.08.20 13:17:00 - [ 62]
Originally by: Halcyon Ingenium
Originally by: Octavene Ares
<start vent>
Does CCP remember that there is a substantial number of people that play this wonderful internet spaceship game from time zones other than EU and US?
Whose great idea was it to extend downtime on a Friday night for maintenance tasks? That is peak playtime for New Zealand, Australia and several other countries. As it is we always have to put up with DT during our peak playtime, but we have learned to live with that. Now we have yet another extended DT in our peak time....
I'm all for improving the performance of eve in general, but must it all be at the expense of one time zone?
Does this maintenance have to be done on a Friday and could all of us in this part of the world please have a reduced subscription fee considering we can't play as much as we would like?
</end vent>
Someone has to take the shaft on the downtime. Congratulations, its you.
did you read the whole thread... no one has to take the shaft of downtime.... it just has to be a moved a bit and everyone is happy |
Cletus Graeme
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.08.20 14:44:00 - [ 63]
Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 20/08/2010 14:49:55 Originally by: Amber Accelerando
Edited by: Amber Accelerando on 19/08/2010 01:00:37
Quote:
They do DT when they do, because they have all the staff and resources available at that time (like I stated). That's the only reason DT is when it is, and as I've said three times now, all the info is available on the forums. You'll have to search for it though.
What I am saying is CCP should change that time so DT doesn't happen at 9PM for us Aussies.
I'm sure "all the resources and staff" are available at less inconvenient times.
You're forgeting a few things here. Iceland is a small country and until recently CCP was a very small company with technical teams based ONLY in Iceland so having the manpower to perform DT whenever they (or you) prefer is probably not as trivial as you might think. Also the cluster itself is located near London so again, midday GMT is most favourable for them in terms of manpower and expertise available to deal with any issues. Additionally, performing it in the middle of their working day has another obvious advantage. They have plenty of time either side of DT to prepare for it (in the mornings) and also make any fixes (in the afternoons) before the EU and US peak-times arrive. The work they do (aside from the DT itself) can also require the involvement of people outside the "Daily Maintenance Team" (e.g. liasing with a team of coders to release a new bug fix or extra functionailty etc) so you need to have them available - which is the case during normal working hours. Ultimately, it comes down to the fact that CCP do it when it's most convenient for themselves, partially because they're selfish (and why shouldn't they be) but mostly because they have to due to real world constraints (such as staff/equipment availability and running costs). This way they can ensure that DT is as smooth as possible and the game suffers minimal disruption which benefits us all in the end as DT is a daily occurence so the possibility of daily disruptions would be bloody annoying to say the least. Now that CCP is growing rapidly, with offices in the USA and China we can perhaps expect 100% round-the-clock maintenance in years to come which that might allow for a move to a variable DT. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Vahrokh Consulting
|
Posted - 2010.08.20 15:08:00 - [ 64]
As said above, CCP are EU based, their technician employees are available just in certain times.
Plus there is another factor: the downtime perfom TONS of scheduled tasks, bound to alter their results depending on when you do the DT. So much that the DT is always at the same hour regardless of daylight changes or whatever.
Now, with large efforts those batch operations could indeed be changed but:
1) It's not free, time is money
2) It's super-mega-ancient code and you KNOW what happens with that code when you just look at it.
3) The two above would make it unfeasible to rotate downtime "turns" across timezones.
A convergence of all of the above leads to the decision that someone got to get the shaft, and they are the minority (as usual) |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar |
Posted - 2010.08.20 16:04:00 - [ 65]
Originally by: Octavene Ares
<start vent>
Does CCP remember that there is a substantial number of people that play this wonderful internet spaceship game from time zones other than EU and US?
Whose great idea was it to extend downtime on a Friday night for maintenance tasks? That is peak playtime for New Zealand, Australia and several other countries. As it is we always have to put up with DT during our peak playtime, but we have learned to live with that. Now we have yet another extended DT in our peak time....
I'm all for improving the performance of eve in general, but must it all be at the expense of one time zone?
Does this maintenance have to be done on a Friday and could all of us in this part of the world please have a reduced subscription fee considering we can't play as much as we would like?
</end vent>
No. |
Guru'Kha
Amarr
Hedion University
|
Posted - 2010.08.20 16:23:00 - [ 66]
Steve Irwin was a pain in the butt when flying to Australia, within 1 hour of arriving in AU airspace he would come on, and spout off about bio diversity and hold a Koala in a dirty way.
And on Subject, Why should DT be moed just for you? I dont want DT in the afternoon thank you. |
Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point. |
Posted - 2010.08.20 16:24:00 - [ 67]
but.... EU prime-time has server reboots as well
:17 months: |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It |
Posted - 2010.08.20 18:30:00 - [ 68]
Edited by: Captain Pompous on 20/08/2010 18:31:22 Originally by: Mohojo
Because about 5% of even is from your timezone. Its better to have 5% complain then 85%
Actually, it's even less. The percentage of players from Australasia is negligble, commercially and relatively speaking e: watch out for them stingrays, they be funky |
Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears |
Posted - 2010.08.21 09:01:00 - [ 69]
Originally by: Crias Taylor
I don't think CCP can take sheep as payment.
Yes they do. |
Wolfcan Gekko |
Posted - 2010.09.04 00:07:00 - [ 70]
Originally by: Stick Cult
No matter what time it is, it's going to hit one timezone in it's primetime.
No it is not. At 12:00 UTC it is 9 pm Australia time. 10 pm in Japan etc. If they brought forward the downtime to 9:00 UTC it will hit Australia at 6pm japan 7 pm. There is no country east of Australia with a substantial population (Sorry NZ). Therefore, they should bring the downtime forward by 3 hours. That will open up millions of potential players. |
Nankeen Heron |
Posted - 2010.09.04 01:53:00 - [ 71]
"ELIGIBILITY: The "EVE Online Universal Glory Sweepstakes" ... is applicable and open to legal residents of North America and Europe who are thirteen (13) years of age or older." Down Under needs a posse.  |
Ryhss
Caldari
The Excecutorans
|
Posted - 2010.09.04 05:10:00 - [ 72]
Originally by: Stick Cult
No matter what time it is, it's going to hit one timezone in it's primetime.
It's got to be primetime somewhere, at all times! What time is it? Party time. Time for bed. |
Darth Skorpius
m3 Corp
Fidelas Constans |
Posted - 2010.09.04 05:17:00 - [ 73]
Originally by: Nankeen Heron
"ELIGIBILITY: The "EVE Online Universal Glory Sweepstakes" ... is applicable and open to legal residents of North America and Europe who are thirteen (13) years of age or older."
Down Under needs a posse.
qft. seriously ccp, stop screwing us over. i can deal with dt being in our prime time (infact, its usually my cue to go to bed, without it i tend to stay up later than i should) but dont screw us on comps as well |
Stick Cult |
Posted - 2010.09.04 05:27:00 - [ 74]
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Darth Skorpius
m3 Corp
Fidelas Constans |
Posted - 2010.09.06 00:33:00 - [ 75]
Originally by: Stick Cult
Originally by: Darth Skorpius
Originally by: Nankeen Heron
"ELIGIBILITY: The "EVE Online Universal Glory Sweepstakes" ... is applicable and open to legal residents of North America and Europe who are thirteen (13) years of age or older."
Down Under needs a posse.
qft.
seriously ccp, stop screwing us over. i can deal with dt being in our prime time (infact, its usually my cue to go to bed, without it i tend to stay up later than i should) but dont screw us on comps as well
It's legal issues. I don't know why, because law is stupid.
no, its just laziness, i have seen several comps in the past from us based companies that have allowed kiwis and aussies to enter, so clearly its not that big an obstacle.also, im sure some local companies here in nz and aus would be willing to help sponsor a comp, if thats what is required. heck, even a comp to win a single plex would show they at least know we exsist. or even a post to say they will look at ways they can bring us comps would suffice. but instead we get nothing but silence |
Spifflonius
BoB Enterprises
Veni Vidi Vici Alliance |
Posted - 2010.09.06 00:58:00 - [ 76]
Originally by: Storm Templar
Edited by: Storm Templar on 19/08/2010 14:49:13
Eastern Aus player here. DT usually hits at 9 p.m. and the server stays down until 10 p.m. or in the case of this extended DT, 11 or 11.30. Big deal.
You know what you can do in that one or two hours?
- Food
- Another game, Minecraft or BF BC2 ;)
- Tuck your kids into bed
- Have a cigarette or two
- Oh look tv (although aussie tv is quite ****, to be frank)
- Have a breath of fresh air.
- Have a glass of wine/beer/spirit.
p.s. whos going to be Prime Minister. Why can't we abstain or have a vote of no confidence? I have a feeling that Abbott is going to win. Bring back John Howard, or at least K-Rudd.
You can't be a real Aussie. Beer at the bottom of the list? It should be at the top!  |
Jita Alt666 |
Posted - 2010.09.06 01:06:00 - [ 77]
How did this thread get back to the top?
Its not going to change. Ask your eemployer to change your hours from 9 - 5 to 11 - 7. Then do your usual get home from work stuff and play eve from the end of Downtime till 1am
We all know that playing at the end of downtime is awesome. |
Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
|
Posted - 2010.09.06 03:24:00 - [ 78]
Originally by: Captain Pompous
Edited by: Captain Pompous on 20/08/2010 18:31:22
Originally by: Mohojo
Because about 5% of even is from your timezone. Its better to have 5% complain then 85%
Actually, it's even less. The percentage of players from Australasia is negligble, commercially and relatively speaking
e: watch out for them stingrays, they be funky
 |
PDP11 |
Posted - 2010.09.07 00:51:00 - [ 79]
Originally by: Octavene Ares
Does CCP remember that there is a substantial number of people that play this wonderful internet spaceship game from time zones other than EU and US?
Of course not. Just look at the rules for the current CCP competition. Anybody outside of North America/Europe doesn't exist. Quote:
2. ELIGIBILITY: The "EVE Online Universal Glory Sweepstakes" (the "Promotion"), brought to you by CCP North America, Inc. (the "Sponsor"), will be governed by these "Official Rules". This Sweepstakes is applicable and open to legal residents of North America and Europe who are thirteen (13) years of age or older.
If CCP doesn't think Aussies/New Zealand players are significant enough to allow us to enter their competitions, then why do you think they would move downtime out into the middle of the ocean to inconvenience any whales playing Eve Online. Aussies, just live with it, Downtime is going to be in our prime time, end of story. |
Jita Alt666 |
Posted - 2010.09.07 01:18:00 - [ 80]
And we all know that logging on straight after down time allows best access to officer gear. |
Sebin
Merciless. |
Posted - 2010.09.13 23:15:00 - [ 81]
Originally by: Darth Skorpius
Originally by: Nankeen Heron
"ELIGIBILITY: The "EVE Online Universal Glory Sweepstakes" ... is applicable and open to legal residents of North America and Europe who are thirteen (13) years of age or older."
Down Under needs a posse.
qft.
seriously ccp, stop screwing us over. i can deal with dt being in our prime time (infact, its usually my cue to go to bed, without it i tend to stay up later than i should) but dont screw us on comps as well
Dear CCP, please rename this sweepstake to "not quite universal". Thank you from one "universal" player. |
FOEHAMMER006
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2010.09.14 03:46:00 - [ 82]
Originally by: Tavin Aikisen
EVE is a true global MMO where you can honestly say someone will suffer when extended downtime occurs. Given that regular downtime never hits an hour anyway, I'm not too fussed.
Look at the bright side, as others have pointed out, at least all your waypoints will be pirate free and asteroid belts replenished! :)
Win win. |
Treasure Seaker |
Posted - 2010.09.14 05:29:00 - [ 83]
Originally by: San Severina
I support the OP's whining 100%, DT should be moved and hour later at least 2 hours would be good, I don't see why Dt has to be in peak playtime for anyone in any timezone!
DT hits me and all East Coast Aussies at 9 PM FFS.
Wow you sound like a typical victorian... Want want want. i love dt how it is. west oz here and dt is 7pm for us and i love it. We get to come home from work shower and eat then have some nice eve time... you arent from victoria are you  why should everyone have to do what you want.. Oh wait Hello Kitty -----> that way. Deal with it or go buy some tissues lol TS |
Zeuth Proxy
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2010.09.14 06:28:00 - [ 84]
Welcome to the world of MMOs where downtime in almost every game shafts AU/NZ players. Just be thankful its usually only a 1 hour downtime. |
Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
|
Posted - 2010.09.14 07:22:00 - [ 85]
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Khanaris Asgarth
Eternium Industries |
Posted - 2010.09.14 10:35:00 - [ 86]
Originally by: Stick Cult
No matter what time it is, it's going to hit one timezone in it's primetime.
This. Plus Downtime is also dictated around working hours for the people who run the server in London and carry out all these tasks/upgrades/etc. |
Sidus Isaacs
Gallente |
Posted - 2010.09.14 11:38:00 - [ 87]
Originally by: Octavene Ares
<start vent>
Does CCP remember that there is a substantial number of people that play this wonderful internet spaceship game from time zones other than EU and US?
Whose great idea was it to extend downtime on a Friday night for maintenance tasks? That is peak playtime for New Zealand, Australia and several other countries. As it is we always have to put up with DT during our peak playtime, but we have learned to live with that. Now we have yet another extended DT in our peak time....
I'm all for improving the performance of eve in general, but must it all be at the expense of one time zone?
Does this maintenance have to be done on a Friday and could all of us in this part of the world please have a reduced subscription fee considering we can't play as much as we would like?
</end vent>
What a big baby. |
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