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Topic |
Phosphorus Palladium |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:13:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 25/07/2010 18:14:40 Congrats CCP. Whats the old record? Btw.: Eve must be dying  |
Khavi Kitamatsu |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:15:00 - [ 2]
It's summer and they always get an influx of trial players. |
CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:19:00 - [ 3]
Current PCU record is 60,453! Come on everyone get your friends to log in lets try and beat the record today!! |
Sturmwolke |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:24:00 - [ 4]
Sounds like Providence's heating up. |
Neliel Soifon |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:26:00 - [ 5]
 Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Current PCU record is 60,453! Come on everyone get your friends to log in lets try and beat the record today!!
Why do you care so much? Oh right, for advertising. Well, fix fleet lag, that will be an awsome advertising actually; imagine: eve online, where fleet fights are fights, and not "watch a freezed screen" Yeah keep dreaming. |
Khavi Kitamatsu |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:28:00 - [ 6]
If CCP gave a rats arse about new players and the PvE aspect of thegame instead of catering to the minority in low and null sec maybe this game might retain more of it's trial players. |
Phosphorus Palladium |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:38:00 - [ 7]
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Aiwha
Caldari
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:50:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu
If CCP gave a rats arse about new players and the PvE aspect of thegame instead of catering to the minority in low and null sec maybe this game might retain more of it's trial players.
That would mean shifting precious nodes to us down in null. Stop complaining, you guys up in highsec have it quite nice. Even Jita's playable most of the time without noticeable lag. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.07.25 18:52:00 - [ 9]
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Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas. |
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:58:00 - [ 10]
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Hari Markkus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.07.25 19:02:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium
[Maybe for the same reason I do... because it is pretty cool having 50.000 or more players in the same game at the same time. Just sayin 
Somebody saying that Star Trek Online is in any way cool, is something I didn't think I would hear before the Sun went nova. |
Clyde ElectraGlide
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies |
Posted - 2010.07.25 19:12:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Neliel Soifon
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Current PCU record is 60,453! Come on everyone get your friends to log in lets try and beat the record today!!
Why do you care so much?
Oh right, for advertising.
Well, fix fleet lag, that will be an awsome advertising actually; imagine: eve online, where fleet fights are fights, and not "watch a freezed screen"
Yeah keep dreaming.
great post, i believe that CCP WTF OMG FIX LAG FTW should be brought up in every thread in an attempt to change their mind. |
Bartraxi
Amarr
42nd Airborn
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Posted - 2010.07.25 19:28:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu
If CCP gave a rats arse about new players and the PvE aspect of thegame instead of catering to the minority in low and null sec maybe this game might retain more of it's trial players.
True dat! Sometimes I wonder why I stayed.... |
Furb Killer
Gallente |
Posted - 2010.07.25 19:31:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Current PCU record is 60,453! Come on everyone get your friends to log in lets try and beat the record today!!
Will in 18 months do? |
Gladys Pank
Amarr
Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta |
Posted - 2010.07.25 19:46:00 - [ 15]
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Current PCU record is 60,453! Come on everyone get your friends to log in lets try and beat the record today!!
Will in 18 months do?
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Nullity
Gallente |
Posted - 2010.07.25 19:47:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Current PCU record is 60,453! Come on everyone get your friends to log in lets try and beat the record today!!
Will in 18 months do?
What a peculiar and totally random number that you picked which has no relation to any recent events. |
Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.07.25 21:34:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Neliel Soifon
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Current PCU record is 60,453! Come on everyone get your friends to log in lets try and beat the record today!!
Why do you care so much? .
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bassie12's alt |
Posted - 2010.07.25 22:11:00 - [ 18]
Edited by: bassie12''s alt on 25/07/2010 22:18:27
What's the record number people in a single 0.0 system with playable lag?
=/ why can't the forums just remember to use my main instead of this one. |
Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six |
Posted - 2010.07.25 22:25:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: bassie12's alt
Edited by: bassie12''s alt on 25/07/2010 22:18:27
What's the record number people in a single 0.0 system with playable lag?
=/ why can't the forums just remember to use my main instead of this one.
You'd have to define playable first and then be able to measure it. Good luck with that. |
Magnus Sunbeam |
Posted - 2010.07.26 14:13:00 - [ 20]
But how many of those are alt accounts? Second accounts? Third accounts? More? Trial accounts? Multiple trial accounts? Meaningless figure without any breakdown. |
Average Jack |
Posted - 2010.07.26 14:21:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Neliel Soifon
Well, fix fleet lag, that will be an awsome advertising actually; imagine: eve online, where fleet fights are fights, and not "watch a freezed screen"
^this. Why exactly would I want to bring my friends to EVE? So they laugh at me once they see the first fleet fight with 15min gridload and modules locking up constantly? Or do you mean because of the same 5 missions where you warp to the same crap looking nebulae thing and shoot little crosses with different names over and over? Fix lag, that will get you more players then some meaningless PCU record. |
Cire XIII
Caldari
Ever Flow
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2010.07.26 14:21:00 - [ 22]
Edited by: Cire XIII on 26/07/2010 14:23:53 Originally by: Cire XIII
Originally by: bassie12's alt
Edited by: bassie12''s alt on 25/07/2010 22:18:27
What's the record number people in a single 0.0 system with playable lag?
=/ why can't the forums just remember to use my main instead of this one.
It has been well over 1000 from my experience, but the more important statistic would be how many ships have been on grid in a single 0.0 system where input commands were still manageable? It will vary by user obviously, and yet I am not certain where that number would be for those players with the best connections. I've never taken the time to make screenshots and count before.
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Grek Forto
Crosshair Corp
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Posted - 2010.07.26 14:40:00 - [ 23]
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TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Fags R Us
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Posted - 2010.07.26 14:41:00 - [ 24]
Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 26/07/2010 14:46:59 Originally by: Khavi Kitamatsu
If CCP gave a rats arse about new players and the PvE aspect of thegame instead of catering to the minority in low and null sec maybe this game might retain more of it's trial players.
Seriously? You have no idea how good you guys have it in the training ground. You want "imersive game play" a system that lags with 100 people in it isn't imersive :( edit: Also, random numbers mean nothing. "My new product can reduce your chance of cancer by 6" It means nothing without context. 60,000 people online at once, sounds impressive, except. how many were old accounts how many were new how many were trial how many were resubs how many cancled subs how many dev accounts were online? how many were afk in station how many were macros how many in empire\low\0.0 the list goes one |
Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2010.07.26 14:46:00 - [ 25]
It's a good point about trial accounts. My friends have starting playing after years of me saying try the game.
Although I have given them help they still find the new player experience pretty poor. With the amount to do in eve yes its a massive world but the game is hard on new players, VERY hard.
This of course puts most people off right away as most people don't want to "persist" for months and months before they start to learn the game, even if you give them that advice being "This isn't just start a character and go blowing people up" the game still has issues with the new player experience, people try it then think "this is just too much" and dont come back |
TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Fags R Us
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Posted - 2010.07.26 14:49:00 - [ 26]
Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 26/07/2010 14:49:23 Originally by: Wizzkidy
It's a good point about trial accounts. My friends have starting playing after years of me saying try the game.
Although I have given them help they still find the new player experience pretty poor. With the amount to do in eve yes its a massive world but the game is hard on new players, VERY hard.
This of course puts most people off right away as most people don't want to "persist" for months and months before they start to learn the game, even if you give them that advice being "This isn't just start a character and go blowing people up" the game still has issues with the new player experience, people try it then think "this is just too much" and dont come back
Oh no... lazy ADHD gamers are put off by a game that takes time to get into My tepid cynical heart bleeds for them Maybe a twitch and shoot fps would be more up their street? |
Average Jack |
Posted - 2010.07.26 14:53:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: Grek Forto
So we have to choose to either have a PCU record or a fix for fleet lag. 
No but breaking the PCU record implies that the game is getting better and better when it's actually getting worse and worse. This is the wrong kind of message to send and it makes me sick if the CCP guys play these "yay together well make it" crap games. If you want "togetherness" then provide the god-damn game in a decent manner and fix gamebreaking technical issues before you let the marketing noobs out of their cage and let them take the helm. |
Protokill
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.07.26 15:03:00 - [ 28]
Edited by: Protokill on 26/07/2010 15:04:05 Quote:
Oh no... lazy ADHD gamers are put off by a game that takes time to get into
My tepid cynical heart bleeds for them
Maybe a twitch and shoot fps would be more up their street?
You need to understand that a game is a game is a game. You cannot expect 100% of the player population to cater to your own playstyle and desires. Think like a business person and not like a tweenager who has loads of time on his hands to spend gaming. The average person who enjoys MMO's today is in their 30's. This number is getting higher as years go on since pioneer online gamers are getting older. This means that a lot of gaming developers are shifting strategies to appease the majority and not the minority. Blizzard was the first to do this as they drastically transformed world of warcraft over the 6 years its been out. EVE has slowly been doing the same. |
TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Fags R Us
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Posted - 2010.07.26 15:09:00 - [ 29]
Edited by: TheBlueMonkey on 26/07/2010 15:14:42 Originally by: Protokill
Edited by: Protokill on 26/07/2010 15:04:05
Quote:
Oh no... lazy ADHD gamers are put off by a game that takes time to get into
My tepid cynical heart bleeds for them
Maybe a twitch and shoot fps would be more up their street?
You need to understand that a game is a game is a game. You cannot expect 100% of the player population to cater to your own playstyle and desires. Think like a business person and not like a tweenager who has loads of time on his hands to spend gaming. The average person who enjoys MMO's today is in their 30's. This number is getting higher as years go on since pioneer online gamers are getting older. This means that a lot of gaming developers are shifting strategies to appease the majority and not the minority. Blizzard was the first to do this as they drastically transformed world of warcraft over the 6 years its been out. EVE has slowly been doing the same.
And that's why I cancled my sub. The games not what I want any more, it's getting aimed at a wider and wider audience and losing sight of the interesting niche that drew me to it in the first place. Same goes for WoW, once it sounded interesting and was aimed at an older audience, not they aim it at the 10+ year olds and for some reason dumb it down acordingly. I've always had the mind set of "make something difficult and expect everyone to try harder" rather than "dumb things down to the lowest level" And that, to me, feels like the way eve's going. But then I grew up on the NES and loved battletoads when it came out, so what do I know. Basically, business/sales/middle management/marketing departments are the worst thing to happen to a beautiful game in my mind. **** middle management and their ****ish quarterly objective bull****. Let the ones that love the game drive it and have middle management there purely to make sure they don't skitt from feature to feature and actually make things work properly. Screw "release dates" CCP set them anyway, just have a rolling release where new, interesting content is released along side fixed etc as and when it's ready. Out moded concept that they are with mmos anyhow. |
SkinSin |
Posted - 2010.07.26 15:15:00 - [ 30]
Oh look.
Chance to blow own trumpet, takes 6 minutes to reply to thread.
Needing a response to a thread where people are being critical, still no response after 6 weeks.
Fix lag and the other numerous incomplete and broken issues and more people would stay past the trial, which would mean more people on line. Oh. Wait. Can't do anything about keeping those new players for another 18 months... |
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