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Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 04:01:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Solus Argum on 06/08/2010 06:02:40
New Eden TV
I am pleased to Announce New Eden Tv, as you may have guessed its for watching and uploading videos about Eve! The site is FREE to use and is available to anyone globally. To start uploading videos all you need to do is register for an account and your off to the races! Videos are streamed in STANDARD and HIGH QUALITY and can be Downloaded or embedded in Forums or Blogs.

Features
- Upload Videos in Many popular Formats (wmv,avi,3gp,mov,mpeg,mpg,flv,asf,rm,dat,mp4), in any length, file size limit of 2Gb.
- Videos Streamed in Standard and High Quality(Up to 1680x1024)
- Create Playlists
- Comment on Videos
- User Channels - Show off all your videos in one place!
- Community Promotion - New Videos are posted to Twitter and Facebook, getting your video maximum exposure!
- Subscribe to your Favorite Users "Channels" so you can quickly see their newest videos!
- Multiple Languages Supported (Currently available in English, Russian, and French)

Check it out http://www.neweden.tv

Planned Features:
- Html5 Video
- Eve-Files -> NEtv Remote Uploading
- New Layout
- 1080 HD Streaming
and much much more...

Site/Service Owners!
Advertise your site or service on NEtv! Learn more here -> http://lonetrek.ws/contact/advertise

UPDATE: We have changed our name/domain to stop all of this confusion over having two EveTube sites. This service is now known as New Eden Tv and can be found at www.neweden.tv


Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Posted - 2010.07.25 04:31:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Messoroz on 25/07/2010 04:33:43
The footer is 1/5 the total size height of the site.
Needlessly generic social video site, and failbook should have already taught the lesson of how EVE and social sites do not work well. (Besides dreddit and reddit, they are a special case of trolls and narwhals). People want to watch videos and maybe comment, not spend half a decade playing with groups and all that junk, EVE is for the other junk, and these forums are for the trolls.

I'm on a horse.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 04:35:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Messoroz
The footer is 1/5 the total size height of the site.



Yes, that is a side effect of having so few videos uploaded so far. Once more videos are added it will not be so prominent.

Originally by: Messoroz
Needlessly generic social video site, and failbook should have already taught the lesson of how EVE and social sites do not work well. (Besides dreddit and reddit, they are a special case of trolls and narwhals)

This has nothing to do with social networking, its about sharing Eve Videos, on our own site not connected to Youtube or Vimeo.. Go troll somewhere else...

Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Posted - 2010.07.25 04:40:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Messoroz on 25/07/2010 04:40:54
Edited by: Messoroz on 25/07/2010 04:40:23
Originally by: Solus Argum

Originally by: Messoroz
Needlessly generic social video site, and failbook should have already taught the lesson of how EVE and social sites do not work well. (Besides dreddit and reddit, they are a special case of trolls and narwhals)

This has nothing to do with social networking, its about sharing Eve Videos, on our own site not connected to Youtube or Vimeo.. Go troll somewhere else...


I am not trolling, I am giving my opinion, using the you're trolling defense is like me using the you're a Nаzi defense...

Why is there a benefit of this site vs. say youtube(besides the fact it's just purely eve videos and not other junk)? Can you compete with Google's CDN? Can you provide an accurate search system that find the videos I want? Can you have the system automatically identify the music in the song? (Because that is awesome sometimes when the vidoes have good music :D)

I'm on a horse.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 04:50:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Messoroz
Edited by: Messoroz on 25/07/2010 04:40:54
Edited by: Messoroz on 25/07/2010 04:40:23
Originally by: Solus Argum

Originally by: Messoroz
Needlessly generic social video site, and failbook should have already taught the lesson of how EVE and social sites do not work well. (Besides dreddit and reddit, they are a special case of trolls and narwhals)

This has nothing to do with social networking, its about sharing Eve Videos, on our own site not connected to Youtube or Vimeo.. Go troll somewhere else...


I am not trolling, I am giving my opinion, using the you're trolling defense is like me using the you're a Nаzi defense...

Why is there a benefit of this site vs. say youtube(besides the fact it's just purely eve videos and not other junk)? Can you compete with Google's CDN? Can you provide an accurate search system that find the videos I want? Can you have the system automatically identify the music in the song? (Because that is awesome sometimes when the vidoes have good music :D)

I'm on a horse.


I apologize for my defensiveness. Im just rahter peeved that a similar site to mine was launched the same day as mine.. hardly coincidence as this is the 2nd time it has happened.

Anyways, back on topic.

Benefits: All Eve Videos, Easy to navigate Eve categories&tags(making searching here vs YouTube much easier)

CDN: No I cannot compete with Google's CDN, thats just ridiculous. But I am implementing a very popular CDN (Akamai), its pretty much the best you can get without being a Google size company.

Auto Music finding: Probably not anytime soon, but Ill certainly look into implementing that.

Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
The Black Armada
Posted - 2010.07.25 05:07:00 - [6]
 

This, Akamai Media Delivery, looks expensive!

Are you rly going to be implementing this as a CDN solution for hosting videos or are you just name dropping and planning on sticking with sites like videoweed, vimeo and youtube for your video hosting.

If so, when?

Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Posted - 2010.07.25 05:11:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Messoroz on 25/07/2010 05:12:01
I am going to also have to say I am really really hating that stupid player because it shows the silly share icons whenever moving over it.
They should be on the page on the side, not in the player, and in fact they are on the side so it is duplicating functionality. Volume control slider is kinda sucky as it isn't a slider but rather a click to change bar. Get a darken background option because the white background of the site actually makes some of the eve videos hard to see because they are dark.

The signup page has a broken character in this sentence "Register as a member, it’s free and easy just "
Date of birth entry is actually ******ed on the backend because if you put in a random string it just converts it to the unix epoch. Quite silly anyway as it's more user friendly to have dropdowns.

The ad on the frontpage over the video box is just so out of place, because one, it opens up automatically regardless. Two, it makes the assumption of "Close to play" like I want to actually play the content in that box. If anything make it only pop up when a person clicks on the video box or make it look less of out place when it pops up automatically.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 05:13:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Zendoren
This, Akamai Media Delivery, looks expensive!

Are you rly going to be implementing this as a CDN solution for hosting videos or are you just name dropping and planning on sticking with sites like videoweed, vimeo and youtube for your video hosting.

If so, when?


It is very Expensive, $150/mo per 1Tb of Bandwidth. I am going to be implementing it both on EvePress and Eve-Tube so I get a slight discount.

lodik
Posted - 2010.07.25 05:14:00 - [9]
 

we form voltron sucks so screw it

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 05:18:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Solus Argum on 25/07/2010 05:20:57
Originally by: Messoroz
Edited by: Messoroz on 25/07/2010 05:12:01
The ad on the frontpage over the video box is just so out of place, because one, it opens up automatically regardless. Two, it makes the assumption of "Close to play" like I want to actually play the content in that box. If anything make it only pop up when a person clicks on the video box or make it look less of out place when it pops up automatically.


Yeah, thats a known bug. Its only supposed to popup when the visitor clicks play. Ive disabled it temporarily on the pre-roll.

ps - It's an Open source Player... You get what you pay for...

Originally by: lodik
we form voltron sucks so screw it


I nor the site have no affiliation with We from Voltron. That video is just a video I grabbed off Eve-Files to test the uploading/processing.

SupaKudoRio
Posted - 2010.07.25 06:40:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 25/07/2010 06:42:59
I like the layout, and videos appear in decent quality (in HQ at least).

I approve, if that means anything at all. Razz

Edit: "Thanks for rating comment". Really? Laughing

jade rio
Caldari
E-ON Developments
ESSANCE OF ESCALATION
Posted - 2010.07.25 06:45:00 - [12]
 

This has potential if people give it a chance. It sure beats trying to find the eve videos on youtube. at least we know these will all be eve videos.

Silicon Buddha
Amarr
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.25 06:48:00 - [13]
 

Yeah I think it's got a lot more potential than just straight YouTube. I've got a bunch of old videos (some alliance tourneys from 2007, a bunch of my favorite vids, etc). I'm ASSUMING I can't post them up there, and can only put up what I own/authored.

Something to that effect may be good (unless you don't really care).

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 07:13:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Silicon Buddha
Yeah I think it's got a lot more potential than just straight YouTube. I've got a bunch of old videos (some alliance tourneys from 2007, a bunch of my favorite vids, etc). I'm ASSUMING I can't post them up there, and can only put up what I own/authored.

Something to that effect may be good (unless you don't really care).


Well, I dont care if you post them. But ill remove them if asked by the author/owner of the videos.

jade rio
Caldari
E-ON Developments
ESSANCE OF ESCALATION
Posted - 2010.07.25 07:22:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Silicon Buddha
Yeah I think it's got a lot more potential than just straight YouTube. I've got a bunch of old videos (some alliance tourneys from 2007, a bunch of my favorite vids, etc). I'm ASSUMING I can't post them up there, and can only put up what I own/authored.

Something to that effect may be good (unless you don't really care).


As long as you say its their video, I can't imagine they would mind. Unless they want to repost it themselves.

Silicon Buddha
Amarr
Capital Construction Research
Pioneer Alliance
Posted - 2010.07.25 07:45:00 - [16]
 

Ok then. Alliance Tournament 2 on it's way up then.
It's got 2 players on there from way back in the day who are still pretty involved.

That's the only one I've got but I've watched them all.

jade rio
Caldari
E-ON Developments
ESSANCE OF ESCALATION
Posted - 2010.07.25 08:05:00 - [17]
 

Solus, mind deleting my first account: JadeRio.. didn't know we could put spaces so I made one with my eve name.

Thanks :) and sorry for the trouble.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 08:11:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: jade rio
Solus, mind deleting my first account: JadeRio.. didn't know we could put spaces so I made one with my eve name.

Thanks :) and sorry for the trouble.


Sure, No Problem

jade rio
Caldari
E-ON Developments
ESSANCE OF ESCALATION
Posted - 2010.07.25 09:07:00 - [19]
 

About how long does the video processing stage take? Do you have to accept the video or is it all automated?

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 09:11:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Solus Argum on 25/07/2010 09:11:07
Originally by: jade rio
About how long does the video processing stage take? Do you have to accept the video or is it all automated?


It all depends on the size, length and quality of the video. To keep the server from exploding I currently have it limited to processing 1 video at a time, until I get a feel for how the load is going to be.

oh, and its all automated.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 09:32:00 - [21]
 

Updating main post - What kind of video categories would you all like to see?

jade rio
Caldari
E-ON Developments
ESSANCE OF ESCALATION
Posted - 2010.07.25 09:38:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Solus Argum
Updating main post - What kind of video categories would you all like to see?


I'm pretty sure you can get rid of the 'eve' category, as i think every video here will be eve related.

Maybe 'Tips & Tricks' for things that might not qualify under 'guides' (tutorials).

Maybe make a 'other' category?

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 10:13:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: jade rio
Originally by: Solus Argum
Updating main post - What kind of video categories would you all like to see?


I'm pretty sure you can get rid of the 'eve' category, as i think every video here will be eve related.

Maybe 'Tips & Tricks' for things that might not qualify under 'guides' (tutorials).

Maybe make a 'other' category?


good idea, added both of those

Dan O'Connor
Cerberus Network
Dignitas.
Posted - 2010.07.25 10:26:00 - [24]
 

I prefer evetube.co.uk

CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2010.07.25 14:46:00 - [25]
 

Moved to My EVE from General Discussion.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 18:09:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Moved to My EVE from General Discussion.


Man! I was hoping it would last until Monday... darn you weekend mods! :P

You Dobber
Trotters Independent Traders Inc.
Posted - 2010.07.25 20:12:00 - [27]
 

we've been waiting all this time for another "eve tube" site and we get 2 in one day :) but tbh i prefer your site to the other one so keep up the good work

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.25 22:34:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Dan O'Connor
I prefer evetube.co.uk


If you dont mind explaining. What exactly about the other site d you like better? Design, Layout?

Originally by: You Dobber
we've been waiting all this time for another "eve tube" site and we get 2 in one day :) but tbh i prefer your site to the other one so keep up the good work


Thanks Sir, Much appreciated.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.26 10:11:00 - [29]
 

Come check out our new dark theme. It fits an Eve site soooo much better.

Solus Argum
Minmatar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.07.27 06:32:00 - [30]
 

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