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Topic |
Lucius Achilleus
Amarr
SniggWaffe |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:06:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Lucius Achilleus on 28/06/2010 16:06:24
Not a day goes by when there is not some measure of violence within my bretherens' kingdom; pirates raiding the Frontier, strikes against Blood Raiders, et cetera ad nauseam. However it is with a heavy heart that I feel compelled to relate the sad turn of events unfolding in the Khanid region which threatens to plunge the whole region to war. The once so-called protectors now seem to have turned on their lawful enforcement enterprises, debasing themselves in what appears to be a final metamorphosis from Templar to brigand. While the players such as myself are insignificant, the ideological and alliegetic implications are the reason for my letter.
Khanid Provincial Vanguard, as I assume many of you know, proclaim for themselves the task of protecting the Kingdom from external and criminal threats. However it has become increasingly obvious from the monitoring of their vessel destruction logs registered with CONCORD that they have deviated grossly from their ambitious charter. To put it bluntly, they have fought sporadically with only one pirate group, on the border with outlaw space and otherwise terrorized lawful corporations in high security space without provocation and with tenuous casus belli at best. When my corporation was founded not long ago from a group of disenchanted members of a corporation once closely allied with KPV and exited Khanid space to begin anew on the Amarrian frontier, the Vanguard declared war upon us and viciously attacked our nascent corporation, eventually murdering a retired officer of the 24th Imperial Crusade, Xerox Facsimilie after a valiant struggle.
What was our crime? Defection from our former employer Xun Armaments Corp, liberating a number of like-minded members from a corporation whose leadership are cultists of the sani sabek persuasion; exiled from their Amarrian fiefs generations ago for the same heresy; who despite Sir Facsimilie's prolonged attempts to convert them to the Faith refused to abandon their sinful ways. So we departed, intending to cleanse ourselves in service to the Theology Council where those such as myself might cleanse ourselves of any taint by simply associating with the heretics.
However through Divine Providence we found allies against the Vanguard. Khanid and Amarrian citizens who had born the brunt of KPV's bullying assaults unsuccessfully, citizens who like our humble corporation found themselves being waylaid by what appeared to be nothing more than common highway bandits. In the twilight after Sir Facsimilie's funeral Diversified was presented with a choice, pay for the losses we had incurred in our self-defense or continue to suffer vicious attacks. With an unsure vision of the future but a firm belief that the Lord shall provide, we declined. In the successive weeks we scored several blows on the Vanguard, even destroying one of the crown jewels of their fleet and effectively removing their military presence from Domain. At this juncture we found enough allies to actually match them numerically, yet surprisingly they were nowhere to be found if we had the means to fight them evenly numerically (even though we still seriously lacked equipment and skill to contest KPV on those fronts). But the wind was at our backs, and in several further pitched engagements had successfully ejected KPV from high security space.
With a brief respite achieved Diversified and its allies considered the options; we could have ended the war then but what would that have accomplished? The Vanguard's leadership didnt visibly appear to feel that it had been beaten, to end the war at that juncture wouldn't have forced them to repent so what purpose would it serve to end the hostilities? The alternative, to continue the war, seemed far more viable for the Vanguard had voluntarily evacuated from Domain, and then from high security regions of the Amdimmah constellation; so if they refused to fight for their "home turf" as it were, why not continue to wear them down by attrition and upset victories to strip away any other recourse to them but to parlay? In the end, for better or for worse, we chose the latter; DIE leadership had a point to prove and we also wished to soon enlist in the 24th Imperial Crusade; far better to present our credentials to the Imperial Registrar with an honorable ledger of battle than to arrive with far more limited accolades to introduce ourselves with. |
Lucius Achilleus
Amarr
SniggWaffe |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:11:00 - [ 2]
So the war continued, albeit at a much lower intensity then it was before, for KPV had redeployed its capital assets to its base of operations, and it was realistically beyond our ability to combat one or more capital ships with the vessels we could muster, so instead we locked down the entry points to high security space, preferring a policy of containment to one of inevitable suicide. In essence we had unwittingly set the pirate dogs on our adversaries, keeping them bottled in low security space where better equipped pirate factions could pick KPV vessels off one by one according to the public CONCORD destruction logs we could not but feel a pang of regret at the situation, but a point had to be made; and while limited truces between KPV and the other warring corps were negotiated to pursue the looming Sansha threat the policy of containment continued unabated even as it became clear that KPV and its allies were destroying any vessels they could catch in lowsec to boost their CONCORD destruction ledger, branching out from their anti-piracy roots to thumb their nose at the rule of law which they had previously worked so hard to uphold. We thought our point was being made, and in an ironic twist we were only partially correct.
From deep within Caldari space the Ishuuk-Raata Enforcement Directive leapt forth, declaring war on our allies (but conspicuously sparing us) with even their illustrious leader John Revenant personally arriving to lead their relief effort. Faced with the revised numerical odds of over 8 to 1 against us, we were once again forced to adapt; to rely on guerilla tactics denying the enemy engagable targets at times when their capsuleers could be fielded in mass to simply swamp our forces by strength of numbers, and then sortie into Caldari space and strike unprepared forces of the Directive. It was not a tactic set we really liked (preferring fair fights numerically where our coordination could used to trump KPV and I-RED's skill advantage) but the tendency to be "blobbed" forced our hand. It was an imperfect and temporary solution, when we could meet the enemy on the field of battle on even terms we would still emerge victorious but the victories were becoming more pyrrhic with each passing day as ere more I-RED pilots deployed to the region; we were beginning to lose by simple attrition.
As with all wars it is a question of strategic and tactical brilliance, and economics; nigh always a race to see which faction can deplete the other's pocketbook first and this one was no exception. After a conversation between Revanent and one of our allied CEO's, they dropped out of the war; without the assistence of nearly a third of our number and half our combat pilots, we faced a choice, but also held an opportunity; if deals could be struck with I-RED, it signaled that they were not interested in assuring our complete destruction. If their concept of this concept was a more limited war, then they could be effectively removed from the equation; but the terms were clear, status quo ante bellum; no more fighting. The war was at long last over, although much to our chagrin with a number of NAPs resulting from this arrangement between KPV and the our allied coalition.
(To be Continued) |
Lucius Achilleus
Amarr
SniggWaffe |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:16:00 - [ 3]
Peace, a commodity bought so dearly with life and all too fleeting, dripped out of hands scarcely before we had even held it. Two high traffic systems near our ally's base of operations had been closely guarded by several corporations moonlighting as pirates and highway bandits, but had never had the stones to engage our ally if many of its members were afoot. With KPV so heavily damaged during the recent hostilities Diversified made the decision to clear the area out of pirates to stabilize trade in the region; we had after all contributed in some measure to the power vacuum in the region and it seemed only fitting to try and repair some of the subsequent damage. First we declared war on one of the pirate corporations, testing the waters to gauge the response. Nothing, not one battle, far more experienced capsuleers refused to fight the righteous sword we wielded. Thus emboldened, we decided to wade into 2 to 1 numerical disadvantage, declaring war on the second pirate corporation. Still no real response, while we racked up depressing entries into CONCORD's destruction logs, but the pirates that waylaid hapless travelers refused to confront an upstart militia formed from raw inexperienced zealots dedicated to the enforcement of Imperial Law. Faced with such noncombat, we turned to KPV inquiring as to their ongoing fighting with the pirate corp which had plagued their lowsec operations and requesting simple intelligence on their movements so that we might assist in anti-piracy operations. We were flatly refused, and so returned to our own endeavors having thus been stymied.
Perhaps it was inexperience, or hubristic overconfidence, but when another self-appointed guardian corporation seemingly dedicated to the protection of Khanid space declared war upon us in support of the pirate corporations, we could not have foreseen what was at work behind the scenes; for before this new combatant's misguided efforts could be tested in battle, KPV emerged once more, breaking (many) of its NAPs redeclaring war upon us and one of our primary allies in our anti-piracy efforts.
With diplomatic options exhausted vis a vis KPV (nonexistent, flimsy, or dynamic casus belli) the question I now pose as battle begins to erupt; how far has the Khanid Provincial Vanguard fallen? Khanid Protectors, or have they morphed into the Bane of all who would call the Kingdom home? Will my fellow loyalists stand idly by as we fall in battle one by one like Sir Facsimilie, clucking their tongues and raising a collective eyebrow as they did when KPV stormed out of the Mekhios Memorial service in an embarrasing fashion, or will they rally like so many to the Empire's call in the aftermath of the Elder Fleet invasion? |
Skanky Panky |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:45:00 - [ 4]
Edited by: Skanky Panky on 28/06/2010 16:45:33
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Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:51:00 - [ 5]
let the second great KPV war begin. i, for one, welcome the onslaught of the silly khanid knnnnnnnniggits |
James Vayne |
Posted - 2010.06.28 17:10:00 - [ 6]
Perhaps the Khanid People will consider the benefit of Joining with Nation? I suspect a great many problems would be resolved by this. |
Repentence Tyrathlion
Amarr
Preta Light Industries |
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:51:00 - [ 7]
 Originally by: James Vayne
Perhaps the Khanid People will consider the benefit of Joining with Nation? I suspect a great many problems would be resolved by this.
Keep your filthy ideas to yourself, Sansha scum. There are tears in my eyes as I read this report. What's happening to my home? What pathetic dregs of existence are tearing our proud kingdom apart? |
John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive |
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:57:00 - [ 8]
You are aware I hope Mr. Achilleus, that your allies within the Six-Pack Syndicate do show tendicies of one would expect from a pirate themselves... perhaps to avoid future conflict your organization would further themselves from such people in the first place.
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Koronakesh
Amarr
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2010.06.28 19:08:00 - [ 9]
An interesting story, yet Ms. Vitalia's side remains to be heard, whether from her own lips or those of her mouthpiece Jakiin.
Regardless, this biased propaganda account isn't nearly enough to make me think Silas is intentionally causing any injury to the Kingdom. Her loyalty to it is, regrettably, quite sound and well-established. |
James Vayne |
Posted - 2010.06.28 20:16:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Repentence Tyrathlion
Originally by: James Vayne
Perhaps the Khanid People will consider the benefit of Joining with Nation? I suspect a great many problems would be resolved by this.
Keep your filthy ideas to yourself, Sansha scum.
There are tears in my eyes as I read this report. What's happening to my home? What pathetic dregs of existence are tearing our proud kingdom apart?
Are you afraid that they may find the idea appealing and you will lose your opportunity to turn them all into slaves? |
Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.06.28 20:39:00 - [ 11]
Edited by: Illadelph Justice on 28/06/2010 20:41:40 Originally by: John Revenent
You are aware I hope Mr. Achilleus, that your allies within the Six-Pack Syndicate do show tendicies of one would expect from a pirate themselves... perhaps to avoid future conflict your organization would further themselves from such people in the first place.
aww, stop, you're embarrassing me  you give us too much credit. <3 you too Originally by: Koronakesh
An interesting story, yet Ms. Vitalia's side remains to be heard, whether from her own lips or those of her mouthpiece Jakiin.
Regardless, this biased propaganda account isn't nearly enough to make me think Silas is intentionally causing any injury to the Kingdom. Her loyalty to it is, regrettably, quite sound and well-established.
She may be loyal, but she thinks she's god. She's more like the gestapo than the vanguard. |
John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive |
Posted - 2010.06.28 21:14:00 - [ 12]
Edited by: John Revenent on 28/06/2010 21:18:42 Originally by: Illadelph Justice
aww, stop, you're embarrassing me
you give us too much credit. <3 you too
You continue to show that the KVP is doing the right thing, and with your actions will result in your allies to be marked as pirates for generations to come. Originally by: Illadelph Justice
She may be loyal, but she thinks she's god. She's more like the gestapo than the vanguard.
I could see how a organization that is based on the sole purpose to clean the pirate lowlife scum that plagues this universe could be described as such... I could see it being very restrictive on your piracy operations. The title for this should be "Khanid Piracy Operations Endangered as Anti-Piracy Efforts Ramp up". |
Lucius Achilleus
Amarr
SniggWaffe |
Posted - 2010.06.28 21:36:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: John Revenent
Edited by: John Revenent on 28/06/2010 21:18:42
You continue to show that the KVP is doing the right thing, and with your actions will result in your allies to be marked as pirates for generations to come.
I could see how a organization that is based on the sole purpose to clean the pirate lowlife scum that plagues this universe could be described as such... I could see it being very restrictive on your piracy operations.
The title for this should be "Khanid Piracy Operations Endangered as Anti-Piracy Efforts Ramp up".
What puzzles me is that you launch slanderous accusations yet provide no proof to substantiate them, however your abstention from attacking anything I said implicitly affirms that which I say to be the truth, which I thank you for not attempting to distort the truth which I have attempted to communicate in full measure here. Six Pack is irrelevant to the present discussion although it would be more accurate to characterize them as industrialists as they are the prime supplier for battlecruisers and stealth bombers in the region. Additionally such allegations of "piracy" must be directed towards them although you might be mistaking it for bleed over conflicts with the outlaw IT Alliance who believe they own the region of space that many members of both corporations occasionally hazard to tread in the ongoing struggle to rid New Eden of the heretical Blood Raiders; perhaps they consider that we are somehow "trespassing" and should be hunted down as such but that also is irrelevant to the present discussion. If Diversified does uncover Six Pack members engaging in the act of piracy, then they too shall be submitted to justice and summarily dealt with. Until then might I suggest that you tend to thy own house and ensure that it is in proper order, Mr. Revenent? |
John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive |
Posted - 2010.06.28 21:49:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Lucius Achilleus
What puzzles me is that you launch slanderous accusations yet provide no proof to substantiate them, however your abstention from attacking anything I said implicitly affirms that which I say to be the truth, which I thank you for not attempting to distort the truth which I have attempted to communicate in full measure here. Six Pack is irrelevant to the present discussion although it would be more accurate to characterize them as industrialists as they are the prime supplier for battlecruisers and stealth bombers in the region. Additionally such allegations of "piracy" must be directed towards them although you might be mistaking it for bleed over conflicts with the outlaw IT Alliance who believe they own the region of space that many members of both corporations occasionally hazard to tread in the ongoing struggle to rid New Eden of the heretical Blood Raiders; perhaps they consider that we are somehow "trespassing" and should be hunted down as such but that also is irrelevant to the present discussion.
If Diversified does uncover Six Pack members engaging in the act of piracy, then they too shall be submitted to justice and summarily dealt with. Until then might I suggest that you tend to thy own house and ensure that it is in proper order, Mr. Revenent?
If you look at status boards for there own operations, you will note many destroyed ships that would fall under the term piracy, many of which were conducted in the Khanid Kingdom and Kor-Azor Regions. One that may be noted on the day of 06.13.112 YC a pilot by the name of Donselg piloting a Bestower in the Perbhe Solar System affiliated with only the Imperial Academy was destroyed by a lone Six-Pack Syndicate pilot, the cargo of the vessel was not merchandise but a large quantaty of a Group Of Refugees, and Janitors. I believe my point is proven. I think your house is needing a cleaning Mr. Anchilleus. |
Skanky Panky |
Posted - 2010.06.28 23:23:00 - [ 15]
Edited by: Skanky Panky on 28/06/2010 23:23:20
lol |
Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.06.28 23:29:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: John Revenent
If you look at status boards for there own operations, you will note many destroyed ships that would fall under the term piracy, many of which were conducted in the Khanid Kingdom and Kor-Azor Regions.
One that may be noted on the day of 06.13.112 YC a pilot by the name of Donselg piloting a Bestower in the Perbhe Solar System affiliated with only the Imperial Academy was destroyed by a lone Six-Pack Syndicate pilot, the cargo of the vessel was not merchandise but a large quantaty of a Group Of Refugees, and Janitors. I believe my point is proven.
I think your house is needing a cleaning Mr. Anchilleus.
Who's house is who's now? and if you call killing robot macro missioners piracy, may i introduce your macro missioners to my cannons and you may call me a pirate? <3 you |
Jakiin
Amarr
Khanid Provincial Vanguard |
Posted - 2010.06.29 03:08:00 - [ 17]
The Six Pack Syndicate are a group of foul pirates. We have fought them before, and we now fight them again, with numerous allies who also detest criminal filth. If anyone doubts their criminal nature, that is their error to make and I will not speak further on it here. DIE were not, technically speaking, criminals. However, they left a corporation which was at the time a great ally of ours using deceit and dishonour. We were fighting with the Six Pack at that time, but did not feel such insults should go unanswered. We declared war on what we had been led to believe was prior to their departure the backbone of Xun's combat wing. Their ability went unproven, however, since we found they were unwilling to leave station unless flying in tandem with their 'enemy of mine' SPS, and even then only a small number made an appearance. Since DIE kept themselves largely well out of the Kingdom and we were making preperations for our ill-fated lowsec move, we allowed the war to lapse. We didn't pay them any mind until we re-entered high security space, when we found that several anti-pirate corporations were experiencing issues with SPS, along with DIE, who we believe to have allied with the Syndicate. Since DIE were considered to be aiding criminal activity, they were included when we declared war. And on a final note... Originally by: koronakesh
An interesting story, yet Ms. Vitalia's side remains to be heard, whether from her own lips or those of her mouthpiece Jakiin.
I am not Milady's moutpiece. I am the Vanguard's mouthpiece, a role I relish. Clearly, though, the line between the mouthpiece of a person and the corporation they lead can be blurry, so no offense is taken. |
Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
Vanguard Imperium |
Posted - 2010.06.29 03:22:00 - [ 18]
I'll keep this brief as it doesn't merit much of a response. I'll also ignore 90% of your 50 page fairy-tale in order to not bore everyone here (more than they are already) and simply say the following: 1. If you associate yourself with known criminals in the region, by fleeting, aiding in combat, remote-repping, etc, then you will also be considered a criminal in our eyes (and most others). I believe "Aiding and abetting" is the standard term for such actions in most penal codes. 2. Declaring war / harming allies of ours in the region will also generally put you on our radar. 3. Lying / Embellishing your version of whatever it is you seem to think is going on will also win you no points. Walk before you run, Lucius. This sort of long winded, poorly-written PR fail only succeeds in making you look ridiculous. Originally by: Lucius Achilleus
If Diversified does uncover Six Pack members engaging in the act of piracy, then they too shall be submitted to justice and summarily dealt with.
Originally by: John Revenent
One that may be noted on the day of 06.13.112 YC a pilot by the name of Donselg piloting a Bestower in the Perbhe Solar System affiliated with only the Imperial Academy was destroyed by a lone Six-Pack Syndicate pilot, the cargo of the vessel was not merchandise but a large quantaty of a Group Of Refugees, and Janitors. I believe my point is proven.
As per your above quote it would seem you have some issues to discuss with your bedfellows. I'll state here publicly, and this has always been the case: if you stop consorting with these sorts of people and leave the region we are more than happy (delighted in fact), to never speak or see any of you again, and will be willing to leave you be. This is absolutely within your (limited) ability to make whatever choice you want here. But as you seem to want the attention, I'm going ahead and placing an interstellar bounty on your pod for the amount of 1 isk. This is precisely how much you are currently worth after your statements, as both a pilot and a man. Yours in Faith, -Silas And if you EVER question my dedication, or the Vanguard's, to our cause in public like this again, I will absolutely dedicate my not unsubstantial wealth and resources to completely ruining your existence. I know you've only been out of academy for a short time, and some lapses in judgment are acceptable, but please think -very- carefully before you make accusations like this again in public. |
Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Trinity's Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.29 03:26:00 - [ 19]
I stand by my friends the Khanid Provincial Guard in this matter, I was contacted today by persons who wish to remain annonymous about this conflict and requested my assistance.
As it stands, I shall look into the matter regarding both sides but it is my belief that the honoured KPV would not engage in conflict without legitimate reasonings behind it.
We shall see how this progresses. |
Sylorin
Caldari
MMZ Laboratories LLC |
Posted - 2010.06.29 08:57:00 - [ 20]
Our corporation is new and many of our people are new to Khanid space.
We have seen a significant Blood Covenant presence and a few rogue drone nests but our security personnel were able to quickly deal with these minor issues. We haven't had any operations along the frontier so we haven't had to deal with the major piracy problems or DIE and their allies.
We have seen and had conversations with pilots from KPV. They welcomed our presence, warned us of the increased presence of pirates in the Kingdom and let us know that they were there to help if we needed it.
Maybe you should seek a diplomatic resolution?
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Eran Mintor
Minmatar
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2010.06.29 09:09:00 - [ 21]
I do not see a viable reason why these Khanid should be at each-others throats; I believe a diplomatic solution can be reached.
If these people are truly seekers of peace, they have no reason not to be able to live in the region. If they are insurgents causing chaos, then bring the proof.
If you seek a mediator, I am willing, and I am sure I can find others if you prefer someone else. |
Storm Templar
Amarr
ANZAC ALLIANCE |
Posted - 2010.06.29 09:44:00 - [ 22]
Edited by: Storm Templar on 29/06/2010 09:45:44
As a fellow Khanid, I implores you to have the scuffle away from Khanid space as destroyed ship fragments may rain on the cities the Khanid people lives in. The solar systems named, Perbhe, Oguser, Schmaeel and Arzi are the perfect place to fight out in.
Packed with pilots who are no more than Sansha Kuvakei's zombies, collateral damage are also minor as the planets in these systems are fairly desolated and sparsely populated.
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Taang
The Six-Pack Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.06.29 10:32:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Silas Vitalia
I'll keep this brief as it doesn't merit much of a response.
I'll also ignore 90% of your 50 page fairy-tale in order to not bore everyone here (more than they are already) and simply say the following:
1. If you associate yourself with known criminals in the region, by fleeting, aiding in combat, remote-repping, etc, then you will also be considered a criminal in our eyes (and most others). I believe "Aiding and abetting" is the standard term for such actions in most penal codes.
2. Declaring war / harming allies of ours in the region will also generally put you on our radar.
3. Lying / Embellishing your version of whatever it is you seem to think is going on will also win you no points. Walk before you run, Lucius. This sort of long winded, poorly-written PR fail only succeeds in making you look ridiculous.
Originally by: Lucius Achilleus
If Diversified does uncover Six Pack members engaging in the act of piracy, then they too shall be submitted to justice and summarily dealt with.
Originally by: John Revenent
One that may be noted on the day of 06.13.112 YC a pilot by the name of Donselg piloting a Bestower in the Perbhe Solar System affiliated with only the Imperial Academy was destroyed by a lone Six-Pack Syndicate pilot, the cargo of the vessel was not merchandise but a large quantaty of a Group Of Refugees, and Janitors. I believe my point is proven.
As per your above quote it would seem you have some issues to discuss with your bedfellows.
I'll state here publicly, and this has always been the case: if you stop consorting with these sorts of people and leave the region we are more than happy (delighted in fact), to never speak or see any of you again, and will be willing to leave you be. This is absolutely within your (limited) ability to make whatever choice you want here.
But as you seem to want the attention, I'm going ahead and placing an interstellar bounty on your pod for the amount of 1 isk. This is precisely how much you are currently worth after your statements, as both a pilot and a man.
Yours in Faith,
-Silas
And if you EVER question my dedication, or the Vanguard's, to our cause in public like this again, I will absolutely dedicate my not unsubstantial wealth and resources to completely ruining your existence. I know you've only been out of academy for a short time, and some lapses in judgment are acceptable, but please think -very- carefully before you make accusations like this again in public.
Once again Silas, you fail to give all the details when I myself attempted to make contact with you when the war started to reach a diplomatic solution. Just like the end of the last war, it was I, not KPV that attempted to end things diplomatically. It does not surprise me however, since I know your visions of God and "honorable combat" have blinded you from the reality of our situation. Viewing our public combat logs, you would clearly see that on 6-14-10 one of our pilots Friguy was jumped in Rilera by what I would consider true pirates (the people you your self defend!)Attempts at peaceful contact and negotiation with said corps (Nanite INDUSTRIES, Krait Corp) found no ground, and we forced to play our hand and defend ourselves. Shortly after the war started, both corps decided to first bring in Khanid Guard as assistance, and now KPV. In addition you talk about bringing future allies in when you already outnumber us over 4:1. I ask you Silas, how long will you remain blind for? With you as Khanid Kingdom's "protector" the future of this region seems to be covered in the blood of many innocent bystanders. |
Sinti Vailatti
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
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Posted - 2010.06.29 11:01:00 - [ 24]
Funny that a pirate would suddenly be worried about the "blood of innocent bystanders" when he's about to have his jet can handed to him. Negotiations are a good thing. I suggest the people in the area who commit piracy stop doing it in Khanid space and KPV will stop smacking you around. Just my $.02 ISK chummers, but like I've said before, if you're a pirate, you don't get to play the morality card. Stand down, ask for a mediator and let's see if we can't make good citizens out of you.  |
Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.06.29 16:02:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Sinti Vailatti
Funny that a pirate would suddenly be worried about the "blood of innocent bystanders" when he's about to have his jet can handed to him.
Negotiations are a good thing. I suggest the people in the area who commit piracy stop doing it in Khanid space and KPV will stop smacking you around.
Don't know if you did the research, but you should check who did the smacking around in the last war. It's already been said, but because people tend to ignore us in forums like these, I'd like to make it clear again: The Six-Pack Syndicate and allies declared war on Nanite Industries and Krait Corp for two reasons; first, because Friguy69 lost a battleship to their guns while attempting to travel through a stretch of lowsec. They were camping the gates like pirates, and if anyone thinks they can defend them and say otherwise, you're an idiot and probably a pirate yourself. Second, because we're tired of Nanite's activities in the Rilera-Tegheon lowsec passage. Do the research before you start gobbling like turkeys about KPV and pirates how we're evil and whatnot and whatever other things you'd like to pretend today. KPV, then, came to Nanite and Krait's defense because they're... i dunno... pirates themselves maybe? Or maybe they, like all corps of their nature, just want someone to shoot, and decided that convincing all of you that we're a worthy target makes for good politics? P.S.: I enjoy shooting at things as well. See you in space, friends, at least until you come to your senses. CONCORD OOC censor applied. Zymurgist |
Silas Vitalia
Khanid Provincial Vanguard
Vanguard Imperium |
Posted - 2010.06.29 17:42:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Illadelph Justice
Don't know if you did the research, but you should check who did the smacking around in the last war.
------------ As the link has been removed but I'm sure some of you have seen it I'll comment briefly, and only once as statistic conversations have no place on this forum: If anyone can be bothered to waste time on this, a cursory examination of the details of their pages will show their boards have some issues with basic addition and summation totals. Numbers never tell a whole story, though. ----------- Additionally, considering we had 5 active Concord Wardecs against our corporation during a good portion of that time I'm generally satisfied with the results, bearing some unfortunate losses of high isk value (Legion, etc). Additionally again, it's worth mentioning that my pilots were generally eager to engage when outnumbered, as it seemed the only time that we would get any response from these people. I was quite happy for my people take extra chances / losses in the efforts to actually have a chance at combat on most occasions, considering even-engagements were avoided without fail, with a lovely parade of fail-smack in local, win or lose. This he said/she said nonsense is really tiresome though, as numerous threads for years have proven without fail. Please take it elsewhere, as I won't be commenting on these sorts of statistics claims from here out. |
Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.06.29 18:31:00 - [ 27]
Originally by: Silas Vitalia
Additionally again, it's worth mentioning that my pilots were generally eager to engage when outnumbered, as it seemed the only time that we would get any response from these people. I was quite happy for my people take extra chances / losses in the efforts to actually have a chance at combat on most occasions, considering even-engagements were avoided without fail, with a lovely parade of fail-smack in local, win or lose.
Says the one who dropped an Archon and crew of battleships on two of us. I also remember the war decs of you and your allies adding up to hundreds of pilots against... what... fifteen to twenty or so of us? So who's talking about even engagements? We all have our interpretations of history, don't we. <3 you Silas, even if you are creepy |
Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.07.01 18:57:00 - [ 28]
Just in case no one has done the math: Six Pack and DIE total 37 members. Khanid Provincial Vanguard, Khanid Guard, Krait Corp, Nanite Industries, Interstellar Commercial Enterprises, and Dark Seraph total 187 members. Thus: 2 corps vs. 6 corps 37 members vs. 187 members They have a 150 member advantage, we are outnumbered over 5 to 1, and we're still winning. So I don't want to hear Silas complain about being outnumbered, because thats patently false. And I'm not going to sit here and listen to Silas talk about defending the Khanid people or whatever she says she does. She's just bored and knew we'd fight back. Their little coalition started losing ships, and now she has to call in the blob. But that's okay. Silas' time will come  |
Shanky Panky |
Posted - 2010.07.02 17:17:00 - [ 29]
NEW INFORMATION SUGGESTS KPV, KHANID GUARD & ALLIES ARE AGGRESSORS AND PIRATES THEMSELVESBecause of certain Khanid Guard members ineptitude in securing their EveGate profiles, the Six-Pack Syndicate has just learned that, indeed, the war against our corporation is out of sheer boredom and wanton aggression. Confirming that the KPV/KG/ISC/NI/DS/KC coalition is testosterone-raging and hulking out. 16 days ago, Mira Teslee wrote "WAR!! We're going to war! Soon! With someone! ;)" To which Khanid Guard CEO and founder Tamon Edom replied "I'll figure something out. If people can be patient, and helpful in finding something worthwhile, that would be appreciated" It can be inferred, then, that the Six-Pack Syndicate was targeted because of Khanid Guard Members itching to fight anyone, didn't really matter who. We were considered worthwhile because we would give a good fight. It should also be noted that Khanid Guard CEO Tamon Edom's Sabre was destroyed and he was podded last night by the Six-Pack Syndicate CEO Taang. GF GF!  |
Taang
The Six-Pack Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.07.02 17:19:00 - [ 30]
Ya... I love all of these people that don't lock their Spacebo... er... Evegate profiles... nubs |
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