| Author |
Topic |
munnybunny |
Posted - 2010.06.28 14:55:00 - [ 1]
The game can warp my ship off but they cant wait 10 seconds to redock my drones? |
Una Achura |
Posted - 2010.06.28 14:58:00 - [ 2]
 Originally by: munnybunny
The game can warp my ship off but they cant wait 10 seconds to redock my drones?
Confirming that I really really want my ship to hang around longer when I DC. I mean, what could possibly go wrong?  |
Gavjack Bunk
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2010.06.28 14:58:00 - [ 3]
Got Planetary Interaction and EveGate didn't ya?
"Walking Around" coming soon... walking around ffs. They don't have time to think about fiddly things like drones, client stability or what is widely regarded as the worst user interface in any database access program anywhere.
Walking In PlanetGate(tm) That's where it's at. Screw your drones. |
Sukawa Toiwon |
Posted - 2010.06.28 15:10:00 - [ 4]
Truly one of the biggest irritations in the entire game! ..and yesterday the crashing was out of control.
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BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing |
Posted - 2010.06.28 15:21:00 - [ 5]
Irritating? Yes, but there aren't very many good fixes. Do my drones come back before my ship warps? Like the above said, yea, I want my ship to wait around after I disconnect, what could go wrong? Do my drones keep fighting? Unfair in PvP, and could draw additional (unwelcome) aggro in PvE. There really isn't a good solution for what to do with drones when you disconnect. Anything you come up with someone could find a way to abuse, or if not, would have so many if/then's it would be impractical to implement. Realistically (keep in mind we're talking internet spaceships here), if your pods neural link went down for a few seconds and your human crew were forced, in your absence, to make an emergency warp, then it only makes sense that drones would be left behind in a heartbeat. Besides, 3mil in drones is nothing. Irritating to dock up and get more sure, but that's like what, 1/3rd of a level 4 bounties (and that would be a pretty small level 4), probably more realistically 1/6th, and then if you salvage even less. I probably keep a few hundred of those things sitting around my hanger. |
James Tritanius |
Posted - 2010.06.28 15:33:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: BeanBagKing
Irritating? Yes, but there aren't very many good fixes.
Do my drones come back before my ship warps? Like the above said, yea, I want my ship to wait around after I disconnect, what could go wrong?
Do my drones keep fighting? Unfair in PvP, and could draw additional (unwelcome) aggro in PvE.
There really isn't a good solution for what to do with drones when you disconnect. Anything you come up with someone could find a way to abuse, or if not, would have so many if/then's it would be impractical to implement. Realistically (keep in mind we're talking internet spaceships here), if your pods neural link went down for a few seconds and your human crew were forced, in your absence, to make an emergency warp, then it only makes sense that drones would be left behind in a heartbeat.
Besides, 3mil in drones is nothing. Irritating to dock up and get more sure, but that's like what, 1/3rd of a level 4 bounties (and that would be a pretty small level 4), probably more realistically 1/6th, and then if you salvage even less. I probably keep a few hundred of those things sitting around my hanger.
There is actually a simple solution: Add another checkbox in general settings, giving the user two options to choose: Option 1: When the user disconnects, the ship emergency warps immediately, leaving its drones behind. Option 2: When the user disconnects, a "return to bay" order is sent to the drones, and the ship warps only if all of its (non-sentry) drones are returned to its drone bay. |
Suboran
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent |
Posted - 2010.06.28 15:57:00 - [ 7]
leave it broken, it keeps the drone market healthy |
spoon reaver |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:15:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: munnybunny
The game can warp my ship off but they cant wait 10 seconds to redock my drones?
good that means you will be buying more drones from my market  |
Virtual Mismo |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:20:00 - [ 9]
Yea, at least make the drones redock as u warp, no need to hang the ship in space longer. just insta dock the drones
so they arent lost, or create a reconnect to lost drones like we got with scanner probes already.
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari
Head Shrinkers |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:22:00 - [ 10]
They were never smart.
But, just don't use them will fix your problem. |
Barakkus |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:23:00 - [ 11]
You go back to where you were when you log back in, scoop them. |
Arous Drephius |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:29:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: James Tritanius
There is actually a simple solution:
Add another checkbox in general settings, giving the user two options to choose:
Option 1: When the user disconnects, the ship emergency warps immediately, leaving its drones behind.
Option 2: When the user disconnects, a "return to bay" order is sent to the drones, and the ship warps only if all of its (non-sentry) drones are returned to its drone bay.
Option 3: When the user disconnects, a "return to bay" order is sent to the drones, but the ship starts warping anyway. If the drones make it back in time, they get to live. |
spoon reaver |
Posted - 2010.06.28 16:29:00 - [ 13]
Just throwing idea's about since eve dosnt = "equal visionary experience" Would be an interesting time waister skill for nubs. A skill book *Drone auto docking* 5% per lvl every time your ship activates warp. |
Backho |
Posted - 2010.06.29 08:48:00 - [ 14]
So losing a billion isk worth of module is better then losing 3m ISK worth of drones? you need to disconnect 333.3333333 times to even make it equal.
no thanks |
Tuttomenui II
Gallente
The Eloria Corporation |
Posted - 2010.06.29 09:18:00 - [ 15]
Eve server cant tell the difference between a log-off-sky and a crash. You could have purposely unplugged your modem to force crash and emergency warp to try and save your ship, why should you get your drones back if you chose to crash. Also ccp doesn't take responsibility for crashes caused by you, your isp, or their isp, only their servers.
Petitions work usually if they can trace the cause of the crash to something that qualifies. wait until your using t2 sentries or t2 heavies, hell of a lot more than 3mil there :). I have successfully petitions and got drones back to. Try it out sometime. |
Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io |
Posted - 2010.06.29 09:28:00 - [ 16]
As a heavy drone user. I prefer how it works today. Reasons?
1. Alot of things can go wrong if you keep staying there. Plus there comes alot of "what if" with it. What if your drones are 50km away and takes 45sec to return?
2. Drone market. Drones are basicly free ammo. The few drones you might lose...deal with it.
3. Whats next? Ammo back for people if something resets? |
Serpents smile |
Posted - 2010.06.29 09:29:00 - [ 17]
One of the things I never understood. We have a recall lost probes (or something similar) button, so why can't we have after a crash a recall drones button? It's not the part of losing them that ticks me off but the part that in some missions EVE crashes where I'm warp scrambled and without drones there is just no way (most of my corpies are in bed when I play or have a way too low sec status) for me to finish this mission because the NPC's gobbled up my drones while i was busy reconnecting.  |
Takseen |
Posted - 2010.06.29 09:31:00 - [ 18]
Edited by: Takseen on 29/06/2010 09:34:11 Originally by: James Tritanius
There is actually a simple solution:
Add another checkbox in general settings, giving the user two options to choose:
Option 1: When the user disconnects, the ship emergency warps immediately, leaving its drones behind.
Option 2: When the user disconnects, a "return to bay" order is sent to the drones, and the ship warps only if all of its (non-sentry) drones are returned to its drone bay.
I'd settle for Option 3:When the user disconnects, a "return to bay" order is sent, and the ship warps after say 10 seconds whether the drones made it back or not. Edit : Ahh, Arous bet me to it. Also to the person that said some people purposefully disconnect. If they did pull the cable, they'd obviously issue the Return drones to bay command *anyway*, a luxury us involuntary disconnectees don't have. Its not a major money sink by any means, but I can't imagine it'd take much work to implement a fix either. |
Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io |
Posted - 2010.06.29 09:38:00 - [ 19]
The only thing I would like is a "reconnect" when I come back. So I dont have to fly to them and scoop and launch. |
Abrazzar |
Posted - 2010.06.29 10:11:00 - [ 20]
A possibly simple fix could be that once the server established the player disconnected, it not only applies a emergency warp but also sends out the 'return all drones to bay' command. So the drones have a few seconds to return while the player is aligning for the emergency warp. This would be especially effective with sentry drones.
For the layman adding this looks like needing just one additional line of code, considering the 'return all drones to bay' command is already available with a hotkey. |
Zartrader |
Posted - 2010.06.29 11:10:00 - [ 21]
I lost 5 today in a disconnect. A reconnect command would not be that hard, they have it for probes. I suspect they do not change it to stop game abuse, as players would be more likely to logoffski, and to support the drone market. |
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