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TheLordofAllandNothing
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.06.27 17:46:00 - [61]
 

I hope those "OMG ANKH FOR CSM" muppets finally see their folly.

Furb Killer
Gallente
Posted - 2010.06.27 18:01:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
I hope those "OMG ANKH FOR CSM" muppets finally see their folly.

Because someone is but hurt about a spoon?

Snake O'Donell
Gallente
Core Impulse
Posted - 2010.06.27 18:34:00 - [63]
 


Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.06.27 20:12:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Deki
P.S. Free Vuk Lau Embarassed


No.

Also, when are you gonna start representing the EVE community in the CSM?

Flying Spaghettiemonster
Posted - 2010.06.27 21:04:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Furb Killer
Originally by: TheLordofAllandNothing
I hope those "OMG ANKH FOR CSM" muppets finally see their folly.

Because someone is but hurt about a spoon?


Imagine the situation being reversed. There would be no end to the rage of individuals like you and delilah about someone daring to throw a spoon, a potentially dangerous object (it could have hit her in the eye after all!) at their beloved candidate!

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.27 21:29:00 - [66]
 

Hell, we've seen people demand the resignation of folks who simply reported on the fact that Ank is a silverware flinger. I'm not sure that many folks are fooled that those same folks would be just fine if it was a question of people chucking things at Ank, instead.

T'Amber
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2010.06.27 21:49:00 - [67]
 

tl;dr

i thought the summit was next week.


CCP Zymurgist


Gallente
C C P
Posted - 2010.06.27 22:06:00 - [68]
 

Everyone please remember to post constructively and with civility. This doesn't mean you can't disagree just try not to be a troll while you do it.

Abrazzar
Posted - 2010.06.27 22:24:00 - [69]
 


Yakov Draken
Minmatar
Tides Of War
Posted - 2010.06.27 22:52:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
Great job guys. Way to create another ****storm about an essentially inconsequential event that totally derails any attempt to demonstrate that we can conduct ourselves even a little pro on the CSM. WTF are you trying to do

I think the question is more what are you trying to do?

If I understand you correctly you are upset because Sok has got in the road of your ability to "demonstrate that we can conduct ourselves even a little pro on the CSM." He told the truth right - but you don't think we can handle the truth . . .

I think we all know that elected bodies like their constituancy to have the wool pulled over the head - I'm suprised you are so blatent about it.

I dunno Mynxee but it is kinda hard to take you seriously now. Way to emo.

I have been through many long, heated, meetings in my life but I am yet to see the spoon thrown. Ankh is truly special.

Dograzor
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
Posted - 2010.06.28 00:21:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Yakov Draken

I dunno Mynxee but it is kinda hard to take you seriously now. Way to emo.



You know she is being very straight to the point about this issue, and her message came over very clearly.

Now stop trying to troll Mynx.

Yakov Draken
Minmatar
Tides Of War
Posted - 2010.06.28 00:39:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Dograzor
Originally by: Yakov Draken

I dunno Mynxee but it is kinda hard to take you seriously now. Way to emo.



You know she is being very straight to the point about this issue, and her message came over very clearly.

Now stop trying to troll Mynx.

I was reading Ankh's report before and came across the following:

"In my opinion, the current CSM is the best and most productive so far, and I look forward to working with the other council members the coming year!"

You gotta admit in light of the SPOON (and other reports from the evil Sok) this comments meaning changes - you gotta wonder what went on at the last few Laughing. Sure it would nice if we could just get along but when we can't at least be honest about it. They are elected officials with conflicting agenda's - we should have honest feedback to judge them by.

I'm not sure Eve is ready for the CSM to go slick PR on us.

As for the spoon it is hilarious. I think it should become the word for extra special carebears.

FEAR THE SPOON!

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.28 00:41:00 - [73]
 

Ahhh... disagreeing with your opinion is trolling. Classic.

It certainly was a bit odd that Mynx's response was to get upset that the 100% accurate and correct facts were related to the playerbase. If one of the CSM members responds to frustration by not only constantly complaining about conspiracies against her and refusing to work with people who disagree with her, but by actually throwing things at people she doesn't like... well, the playerbase deserves to know about it. That's what transparency and accountability are all about. And, if nothing else, the voters deserve to know what's going on now rather than waiting till the next election cycle to be bombarded with all this **** at once.

Mynxee is generally a quality player and seems to be a decent leader, but getting upset (in public) when the truth was reported is always a bad tactic. The best way to stop the playerbase learning of temper tantrums like the one that was reported is to make sure that CSM members aren't throwing temper tantrums. And nobody is responsible for anybody else's behavior.

Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.06.28 02:31:00 - [74]
 

Nerf spoons, buff forks.

Deki
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2010.06.28 02:38:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
Also, when are you gonna start representing the EVE community in the CSM?


In terms of? I cant help bitter trolls, but if you be more specific I will give my best.

Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.06.28 05:39:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero
Ahhh... disagreeing with your opinion is trolling. Classic.



Odd to see you take the word "troll" in your responces a lot more than anyone else.
Anyone not agreeing with you is a troll. I looked back quit some responces of yours and I keep finding the same responce over and over, you calling the other party a troll.

You only excell in taking a small portion of a statement which you can twist and turn, but I actually never see a responce to a whole statement.

Fact is that this kind of derailments you progessivly support actually benefit nobody else than your e-peen in becomming the biggest troll and saboteur on the forums.


There hasn't been anything really constructive sprung from your fingers in responce to anything.
I for one feel sorry for you that this is the only way you think you can get attention.

captain foivos
Posted - 2010.06.28 05:51:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Abrazzar
This video is definitely related to this thread.


...Holy mother of whatever deity you believe in.

You're my hero, Abrazzar.

Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2010.06.28 10:58:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz

Lol. Personal vendetta? I liked her a lot more than I had expected and I merely reported on what happened. Stop seeing things that aren't there.


Good to see those male hormones, you are so full of, are kicking in.

Over interpretation? Why, that is what this thread is all about.

Btw. the race is on to see who of Ankh and Sok manages to get themselves removed from the CSM prematurely. Odds are looking equal.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2010.06.28 12:12:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Killer Gandry

Odd to see that I was rather obviously trolling you, so you used the word "troll" to describe my behavior.


I know!
Isn't it ironic? Dontcha think?

Originally by: Killer Gandry

Anyone not agreeing with you is a troll.


Now Gandry, we've talked about your compulsion to lie in order to troll me, and you really should stop. Now get back to trolling me by suggesting that unlike everybody else who isn't a CSM and who posts on the forums, somehow I'm supposed to be a CSM.

Originally by: Killer Gandry

Now I'm going to troll you and engage in some deliberate dishonesty so I can claim that even though you're just a normal forum poster like almost everybody else in EVE, and nobody who's just a forum poster has done anything at all on the forums other than state their opinions, you haven't been able to do anything really constructive like flying out to Iceland and meeting with CCP. Nyeh nyeh!


That a boy!


Killer Gandry
Caldari
Shadow of the Pain
Posted - 2010.06.28 18:49:00 - [80]
 

FinnNotAgain.

Your replies become more pathetic by the day. Is the little cesspoole you normally take your comments from running dry?

Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:13:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
i mentioned to her the request for more transparency and more updates on the matter and she agreed that that might be a good thing


That's very disconcerting - but completely in line with a lot of other things we get from CCP: incomplete, inaccurate, inconsistent, incomprehensible.

More transparency and updates are one of the constant requests you can find and every time the reply is "that might be good".
It just never happens.

Kudos for continuing with something that appears to be pointless on so many levels.

thoth rothschild
Method of Destruction
Snatch Victory
Posted - 2010.06.28 19:37:00 - [82]
 

This reminds me on some eastern parliament with small brawl interims :p

The CSM is presenting itself pretty bad in the player community. Read the entire forum thread with the point of view of a 3rd party and tell me what you think after the reading.

to make a conclusion:
- 1 person misbehaves
- several people plantig the facts in forums knowing it will heat a discussion
- showing no unity in forums
- lack of communication

You do not need to like each other but stop drama.
Drama consists of
- support
- antisupport
- facts
- NDA
- using informations you gained as profit of some kind
- Diskussions of any kind with 3rd party members
- quarrels in public


Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2010.06.29 18:38:00 - [83]
 

Time + sleep = perspective. Thus...rage-post modified with some measure of rational thought. Cool


Yakov Draken
Minmatar
Tides Of War
Posted - 2010.06.29 21:02:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
Time + sleep = perspective. Thus...rage-post modified with some measure of rational thought. Cool


Much better!

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2010.06.30 07:56:00 - [85]
 

Btw, excellent retrospective of the summit, Mynxee!

Darth Vapour
Posted - 2010.06.30 08:14:00 - [86]
 

Thanks for that second article, it confirms many of the predictions made before.

Quote:
The ball is in CCP’s court. I think we've made it abundantly clear that CSM5 intends to return every half-hearted serve, every sloppy backhand, every uninspired lob with unparalleled intensity for point-set-match.


This comparison between two tennis players would indicate the CSM and CCP are on some sort of equal level. Which of course they are not. You don't have a racket, a ball or are even present on the field. The CSM would be a linesman who calls out a foul time and time again, only to be ignored by the umpire and players.

Borgh Brainbasher
Saint Industrial Services
STEEL BROTHERHOOD
Posted - 2010.06.30 09:03:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Darth Vapour
Thanks for that second article, it confirms many of the predictions made before.

Quote:
The ball is in CCP’s court. I think we've made it abundantly clear that CSM5 intends to return every half-hearted serve, every sloppy backhand, every uninspired lob with unparalleled intensity for point-set-match.


This comparison between two tennis players would indicate the CSM and CCP are on some sort of equal level. Which of course they are not. You don't have a racket, a ball or are even present on the field. The CSM would be a linesman who calls out a foul time and time again, only to be ignored by the umpire and players.


If the CSM calls enough fouls, hopefully one of the players will eventually yell something along the lines of "why don't you do it yourself then" and then the csmees will cackle madly and renenact that scene from Kung Fu Hustle where a short guy turns out to be a tall guy sitting on a stool.

Ban Doga
Posted - 2010.06.30 11:32:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Borgh Brainbasher
Originally by: Darth Vapour
Thanks for that second article, it confirms many of the predictions made before.

Quote:
The ball is in CCP’s court. I think we've made it abundantly clear that CSM5 intends to return every half-hearted serve, every sloppy backhand, every uninspired lob with unparalleled intensity for point-set-match.


This comparison between two tennis players would indicate the CSM and CCP are on some sort of equal level. Which of course they are not. You don't have a racket, a ball or are even present on the field. The CSM would be a linesman who calls out a foul time and time again, only to be ignored by the umpire and players.


If the CSM calls enough fouls, hopefully one of the players will eventually yell something along the lines of "why don't you do it yourself then" and then the csmees will cackle madly and renenact that scene from Kung Fu Hustle where a short guy turns out to be a tall guy sitting on a stool.


And then everyone will continue to do whatever they did immediately before that...

Sujanra Acoma
Minmatar
Shadow Kitty Legion
Rura-Penthe
Posted - 2010.06.30 14:02:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Mynxee
Time + sleep = perspective. Thus...rage-post modified with some measure of rational thought. Cool




Thank you for that. I was a little boggled by the last one.

Flying Spaghettiemonster
Posted - 2010.06.30 21:46:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Soma Khan
what a ****ing useless thread


Bandwagon's full, please catch another.


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