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Topic |
Tex Bloodhunter |
Posted - 2010.05.29 15:58:00 - [ 31]
Try covert ops with 5 mid slots: AB, Scram, 2x Web, Tracking Disruptor (Range). As for weapons use something that has enough tracking to kill the 3 drones and still allows you to deal damage at 7-8km. That should work. It's not my idea though so I can't tell for sure. |
Arthello
D00M.
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2010.05.30 19:08:00 - [ 32]
Fit up a t1 cruiser like for instance a Rupture with dual-180's, neuts, web, scramb and warrior II's. Buffer it with a 1600mm plate+resists. When the Dramiel/Daredevil goes in to tackle immediately stagger the neuts in a perfect interval, mwd on top of him and **** face. I've killed several Dramiels like this. The thing is that T1 cruisers make irresistable targets for a Dram/Dare. Everything but the guns+drones should be t1 imo.
Vexor, Arbitrator and Caracal are also good choices if you anti-frig fit them with neuts and guns/msl with good tracking. I know it's not exactly a Hawk, but it works perfectly. |
Junkie Babe |
Posted - 2010.05.30 21:58:00 - [ 33]
 Originally by: Tex Bloodhunter
Try covert ops with 5 mid slots: AB, Scram, 2x Web, Tracking Disruptor (Range). As for weapons use something that has enough tracking to kill the 3 drones and still allows you to deal damage at 7-8km. That should work. It's not my idea though so I can't tell for sure.
A covert ops vs a dramiel??? A covert ops would have difficulties with a Tech 1 Frigate let alone a faction frigate. |
Ildryn |
Posted - 2010.05.30 22:21:00 - [ 34]
Use a Badger mk2 |
Rouge Drone |
Posted - 2010.05.31 03:03:00 - [ 35]
Originally by: Ildryn
Use a Badger mk2
They're trying to kill a frigate not a titan. |
captain foivos |
Posted - 2010.05.31 03:40:00 - [ 36]
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Scorpionidae |
Posted - 2010.05.31 14:34:00 - [ 37]
Find something that can Neut it. Maybe a Cruor? Which also gets a bonus to webs. |
Rouge Drone |
Posted - 2010.05.31 17:53:00 - [ 38]
Are dramiels really rampant enough to warrant fitting specifically to counter them? |
Scorpionidae |
Posted - 2010.05.31 19:00:00 - [ 39]
Just fitting a Cruor for roaming pvp can kill a Dramiel IMO. But I don't know really never killed a Dramiel. Just surjesting stuff. |
Entrepaz |
Posted - 2010.06.02 19:17:00 - [ 40]
Originally by: Rouge Drone
Are dramiels really rampant enough to warrant fitting specifically to counter them?
yes. |
Ruhige Schmerz
New Eden Scientific Association
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Posted - 2010.06.02 20:14:00 - [ 41]
blarpy can counter a dram fairly well. Most of the dram drivers know this though and will just avoid you. |
Entrepaz |
Posted - 2010.06.02 21:32:00 - [ 42]
Originally by: Ruhige Schmerz
blarpy can counter a dram fairly well. Most of the dram drivers know this though and will just avoid you.
I really hope you're right but I have to say, screenshots/kb or it's not true. I had a blarpy and went against a dramiel. I didn't stand a chance. Never really touched it damage wise. tracking. The problem is always tracking. |
Agent Unknown
Caldari |
Posted - 2010.06.02 22:07:00 - [ 43]
Originally by: Ildryn
Use a Badger mk2
/thread |
Entrepaz |
Posted - 2010.06.04 01:54:00 - [ 44]
Originally by: Agent Unknown
Originally by: Ildryn
Use a Badger mk2
/thread
QFT |
Scorpionidae |
Posted - 2010.06.19 18:15:00 - [ 45]
What does QFT mean? |
Charles37 |
Posted - 2010.06.21 03:15:00 - [ 46]
Originally by: Scorpionidae
What does QFT mean?
Quoted For Truth |
Ghaylenty |
Posted - 2010.06.21 14:01:00 - [ 47]
Originally by: Entrepaz
Originally by: Ruhige Schmerz
blarpy can counter a dram fairly well. Most of the dram drivers know this though and will just avoid you.
I really hope you're right but I have to say,
screenshots/kb or it's not true.
I had a blarpy and went against a dramiel. I didn't stand a chance. Never really touched it damage wise. tracking. The problem is always tracking.
then your problem was also speed because you let him control it. you need at least a double web for frigates and a triple web if you're in a cruiser to kill a dramiel with blasters. light blaster tracking is more than enough for my 5k m/s taranis to orbit at 500 and kill another ceptor, so even light ions would be small enough to kill a dramiel that was double webbed. a blaster harpy can and will take out a dramiel everytime if its fitted right. the dramiel just doesnt have the paper stats to match out against it in a close range slugfest if the harpy can get webs and scram, however the dram has the distinct advantage of being ridiculously fast, and can determine who to engage.. like a 2006 vagabond on crack. |
The'Best Hellfury
Incura
HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2010.06.21 19:09:00 - [ 48]
Edited by: The''Best Hellfury on 21/06/2010 19:13:57 Originally by: Gecko O'Bac
Edited by: Gecko O''Bac on 23/05/2010 22:10:27
Originally by: uredo
I am by no means an expert, but I think the best anti-Dramiel frigate is the Daredevil. Its 90% webs can at least slow it down. But it is expensive.
[Daredevil, Anti Dram]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Dark Blood Stasis Webifier
True Sansha Warp Scrambler
1MN MicroWarpdrive II
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
125mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
The faction web and scram are just me pimping it for better range. Try to keep the dramiel at about 10km.
Can you even get a normal ceptor with that fit? I haven't got eft with me but no nano, no OI... Seems to me you're going to be quite slow. You're probably better off trying to kill a dramiel with the caracal... At least they're more likely to aggress on you.
EDIT: also... Web range and railguns? Good luck with that mate.
So I take it you're pretty terrible at this game? |
HeliosGal
Caldari |
Posted - 2010.06.22 08:24:00 - [ 49]
snipe legion with tracking computers should do it |
Rexthor Hammerfists
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative. |
Posted - 2010.06.22 08:47:00 - [ 50]
Killing one isnt difficult, catching one is tho. Deception would be the best way.
Something like this
[Stabber, New Setup 1]
800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
10MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Dual 180mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium M
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I
Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Fly it like a newbie, have him come within webscramneut range and own his ass.
Drop boosters would help. |
Scorpionidae |
Posted - 2010.06.22 18:11:00 - [ 51]
Thats a good idea with the Stabber because people will think it is fit with a LSE, a warp dirupter and a MWD. What do you mean by "Drop Boosters"? |
Zach Donnell
Ghost-Busters |
Posted - 2010.06.22 18:23:00 - [ 52]
Originally by: Scorpionidae
Thats a good idea with the Stabber because people will think it is fit with a LSE, a warp dirupter and a MWD. What do you mean by "Drop Boosters"?
Drop Booster (Improved)There are different strengths, costing various amounts of ISK. Specifically the Drop Booster increases tracking. |
Scorpionidae |
Posted - 2010.06.22 18:31:00 - [ 53]
Cool thanks mate. |
Andrea Griffin |
Posted - 2010.06.22 20:09:00 - [ 54]
Instead of a Hawk, give the Hookbill a look. You can get a dual-web fit and the equiv of 6 rocket launchers. |
Karan SaJet |
Posted - 2010.06.26 08:45:00 - [ 55]
cheap way to kill a dram>
1. Sentinel (try to get 18km at least and his dead)around 20M isk
2. long range arby 150 km drone control range
this works wonders (just sit and alline to a warp out point wait for him to get close, whene his close let loose the hobgoblins or warriorz, he will try to get rang but wait till he realiz ur drones go out up to 150 km)around 12m isk |
Omara Otawan |
Posted - 2010.06.26 09:29:00 - [ 56]
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists
Fly it like a newbie, have him come within webscramneut range and own his ass.
Drop boosters would help.
Dont forget your single t1 drone like acolyte or something and you have a winner. Pretty much every 'noob' cruiser with room for dual neuts or dual webs is great. |
Amarr Supremacist |
Posted - 2010.06.26 09:38:00 - [ 57]
Originally by: Entrepaz
Originally by: Ruhige Schmerz
blarpy can counter a dram fairly well. Most of the dram drivers know this though and will just avoid you.
I really hope you're right but I have to say,
screenshots/kb or it's not true.
I had a blarpy and went against a dramiel. I didn't stand a chance. Never really touched it damage wise. tracking. The problem is always tracking.
Your Blarpy was terribly fitted. An AB + Web + Scram + MSE + DCU & MFS Blarpy would completely shred a Dramiel. You dictate range due to the web + AB combo. Here, I'll post a fit (but no sane Dramiel pilot would engage you): [Harpy, New Setup 1] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1MN Afterburner II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I Small Core Defence Field Extender I Or just roll full Neutrons with 2 ACRs - it doesn't really matter. |
Schalac
Caldari
Apocalypse Reign
|
Posted - 2010.06.26 19:46:00 - [ 58]
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=5809759I had good results with that Hawk fit against intys. Once you would get into range and shut down their MWD with the scram you can hit the nos and all rockets and due to the relative small amount of power used by the booster and the bonus to it from the ship they will either try to burn away from you or stay and die. It also fits with T2 launchers if you have the skills all at 5 for it and with rocket enhancing and ship speed boosting implants it gets quite nasty at closer ranges. Pop a booster as well and other AFs will fear your Hawk. Just stay away from Ishkurs. |
Kruz Sanar |
Posted - 2010.06.26 20:00:00 - [ 59]
Edited by: Kruz Sanar on 26/06/2010 20:01:02As we all know there is really no way to "catch" & "kill" a Dramiel in anything that a Dram will actually engage. The only exceptions are really ****ing horrible Dram pilot's that die because they are stupid. Assuming you aren't going to be able to keep him pointed anyway why not just go for a Coercer? Dual Light Pulse II x 8 (scorch) 1 MN MWD DCU II Heatsink II x2 Tracking Enhancer II Small Burst Aerator Small Collision Acc The idea is to set orbit at 12km and MWD around any non MWD frig. You can hit out to 17km if I remember right. While the Dram is fast you might be able to catch him off guard and pop him or at the very least run him off. The funny thing about the Coercer is if you actually kill anyone with it, you know they were too stupid to warp away.  While I've never killed a Dram in it I've fought a few and not a single one stayed around because this ship will beat them. This fit will beat almost any other frigs unless you screw up or they have half a brain and just warp away. (you would be surprised. how many don't). Just don't engage any Thrasher in this set up because they are almost assured death. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.06.26 20:16:00 - [ 60]
The DLP Coercer works wonders, have run off countless Dramiels but never actually scored a kill. Still have one thing to try .. overheat on 3rd and 4th volley. Unless you have dual-web or are up against a slightly idiotic pilot don't even bother, he will run before fight even reaches climax ..  |
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