| Author |
Topic |
Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
|
Posted - 2010.05.17 13:43:00 - [ 1]
Question is simple: If I submit a Flagship design saying:  Quote:
Rattlesnake
Blabla highs
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster
Blabla meds
Blabla lows
Blabla rigs
(Replace Blabla with whatever mods make sense for YOU :) ) Can we then fit a Tobias' Modified X-Type X-Large Shield Booster? Same meta, same stats, exactly the same, except for the name :D There's several other mods where this is the case, and the question being: Does the name matter, or only the stast? Say you submit a fit with Ammatar Navy Heat Sinks, and use Imperial Navy Heat Sinks instead, cause Ammatar Navy was sold out the day you bought the ship, will you be punished/poofed/removed/disqualified/whatevered? |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.05.17 13:59:00 - [ 2]
"Can we then fit a Tobias' Modified X-Type X-Large Shield Booster?"
no |
Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
|
Posted - 2010.05.17 14:50:00 - [ 3]
I acknowledge your huge tournament knowledge, Thyrrax, though I'm looking for an official answer to this one, not a "uuh ooh I guess not", unless you can quote me rules, or rules explanations by an official underlining your statement. |
DanMart |
Posted - 2010.05.17 15:42:00 - [ 4]
4. Flagship designs must be created in advance and their ship hull and exact fittings submitted to CCP Alliance Tournament via Evemail no later than 03/06/2010
NOTICE the EXACT in this rule |
Sanche Tehkeli
Gallente
Bionesis Technologies
Electus Matari |
Posted - 2010.05.17 16:17:00 - [ 5]
What remains unknown is : does the actual flagship needs to exist and to be fitted at the time the tourney begins (ie : you own the hull and can provide it anytime to judges.)
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Erikel
Cosmic Odyssey
BricK sQuAD. |
Posted - 2010.05.17 22:07:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: Erikel on 17/05/2010 22:08:14 Originally by: Sanche Tehkeli
What remains unknown is : does the actual flagship needs to exist and to be fitted at the time the tourney begins (ie : you own the hull and can provide it anytime to judges.)
Well the problem is, if you don't have it ready when you submit the fit and like the OP said you can't find the fittings at the last minute then you would be screwed unless the GM was willing to make an exception. And making an exception for one woudln't be fair to everyone else. That's my take on it anyways.  |
CCP Claw
 |
Posted - 2010.05.19 13:52:00 - [ 7]
1) The flagship does not have to exist, we just want your designs (although if you link the ship to me in a mail or something, that is handy :P )
2) EXACT fittings only. No replacement similar items. |
Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
|
Posted - 2010.05.19 17:55:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: CCP Claw
1) The flagship does not have to exist, we just want your designs (although if you link the ship to me in a mail or something, that is handy :P )
2) EXACT fittings only. No replacement similar items.
To you? I thought CCP Alliance Tournament character. Quote:
4. Flagship designs must be created in advance and their ship hull and exact fittings submitted to CCP Alliance Tournament via Evemail no later than 03/06/2010.
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Sashenka
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation |
Posted - 2010.05.20 09:07:00 - [ 9]
i'd imagine the char CCP Alliance Tournament IS claw ;) |
Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
|
Posted - 2010.05.21 06:21:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Sashenka
i'd imagine the char CCP Alliance Tournament IS claw ;)
While I think the same way you do, it's still two different characters :) |
CCP Claw
|
Posted - 2010.05.21 09:24:00 - [ 11]
Yes, to CCP Alliance Tournament, which of course is me.
That'll teach me to talk casually :P |
Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent |
Posted - 2010.05.21 09:50:00 - [ 12]
Now when you say "me" is that CCP Claw, CCP Alliance Tournament or Calmdown...? |
CCP Claw
|
Posted - 2010.05.21 09:56:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Now when you say "me" is that CCP Claw, CCP Alliance Tournament or Calmdown...?
Therein lies the mystery... |
Huan CK
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
|
Posted - 2010.05.21 21:20:00 - [ 14]
See, and you've just answered yourself why I had to ask the question in the OP ;D |
Disintegrator
Minmatar
Kinetic Cartel
Shadow of xXDEATHXx |
Posted - 2010.05.27 09:56:00 - [ 15]
Now we need everybody to Calm down! |
DAgir
Special Operations Wing |
Posted - 2010.05.30 19:52:00 - [ 16]
I have questions regarding flagship fittings.
1) Is deadspace resists (x-type etc) are allowed?
2) Is it allowed to use t2 rigs?
3) Is it possible to use pirate implant sets (like crystal slave etc) on the tournament?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.05.30 20:00:00 - [ 17]
no no and no, might want to actually read the rules before posting hmm? |
DAgir
Special Operations Wing |
Posted - 2010.05.30 20:41:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
"Can we then fit a Tobias' Modified X-Type X-Large Shield Booster?"
no
2. Flagships are able to fit faction, officer, cosmos, and deadspace versions of the following modules, ignoring tournament rules to the contrary: .... *ONE Shield Booster or ..... You are incompetent in this point in question |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.05.30 22:18:00 - [ 19]
You have to read it in context, his question was if he could fit that module instead of the one he originally listed just because it has the same stats. You're the incompetent one  |
Orar Ironfist
Veto.
Veto Corp |
Posted - 2010.06.01 02:57:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: DAgir
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
"Can we then fit a Tobias' Modified X-Type X-Large Shield Booster?"
no
2. Flagships are able to fit faction, officer, cosmos, and deadspace versions of the following modules, ignoring tournament rules to the contrary:
....
*ONE Shield Booster or .....
You are incompetent in this point in question
are you really arguing about tourny rules with tyrrax? wanna argue with the devs about coding next? |
DmitryEKT
Clandestine. |
Posted - 2010.06.01 20:34:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Orar Ironfist
are you really arguing about tourny rules with tyrrax? wanna argue with the devs about coding next?
are you trying to imply that the devs know how their code works? are we even still talking about EVE here? |
Raivi
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.06.01 22:18:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: DmitryEKT
Originally by: Orar Ironfist
are you really arguing about tourny rules with tyrrax? wanna argue with the devs about coding next?
are you trying to imply that the devs know how their code works? are we even still talking about EVE here?
He's correctly implying that eve code is the blastermoas of programming. |
Captain Campion
Viziam
|
Posted - 2010.06.03 13:59:00 - [ 23]
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 14:03:56
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 14:02:54
.
Everyone knows (or should) that the tourny is about having lots of targets and EW supremacy. At most a team will have one turret BS, like an Abaddon or something - for instapopping small stuff. But you could achieve a similar effect with a Zealot, or Prophecy - which are cheaper. This time it's all about triple Tengu/Proteus plus jamming plus bombers - OR - Claymore plus vagas/stabbers etc. Maybe there's a Thorax option in there too.
11 Prophecy
= 11
16 RR Tengu
16 RR Tengu
16 RR Tengu
= 48
13 Rook
13 Rook
= 26
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
=15
=============================
18 Abaddon
= 18
16 RR Proteus
16 RR Proteus
16 RR Proteus
= 48
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
=15
6 Manticore
6 Manticore
6 Manticore
=18
==============================
16 Claymore
=16
14 Vaga
14 Vaga
14 Vaga
= 42
9 Stabber
9 Stabber
9 Stabber
= 27
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
=15 |
TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire |
Posted - 2010.06.03 15:03:00 - [ 24]
Originally by: Captain Campion
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 14:03:56
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 14:02:54
.
Everyone knows (or should) that the tourny is about having lots of targets and EW supremacy. At most a team will have one turret BS, like an Abaddon or something - for instapopping small stuff. But you could achieve a similar effect with a Zealot, or Prophecy - which are cheaper. This time it's all about triple Tengu/Proteus plus jamming plus bombers - OR - Claymore plus vagas/stabbers etc. Maybe there's a Thorax option in there too.
11 Prophecy
= 11
16 RR Tengu
16 RR Tengu
16 RR Tengu
= 48
13 Rook
13 Rook
= 26
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
=15
=============================
18 Abaddon
= 18
16 RR Proteus
16 RR Proteus
16 RR Proteus
= 48
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
5 Kitsune
=15
6 Manticore
6 Manticore
6 Manticore
=18
If by RR you mean remote rep then you're in for a surprise  |
Captain Campion
Viziam
|
Posted - 2010.06.03 15:15:00 - [ 25]
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 15:19:01
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 15:16:51
Ah I see what you mean, the rules aren't written very clearly. I read it as "you can have reps, but only one per ship, and only on a t3 or logi".
Worth making it uber-obvious now.
ONE REPPING SHIP PER TEAM ONLY
The result of that, is that you're prolly better off with BC instead of T3. A bunch of Hurricanes or Harbingers might do well. |
Captain Campion
Viziam
|
Posted - 2010.06.03 15:38:00 - [ 26]
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 15:40:21
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 15:38:22
I think you need a turret ship at the start, or sentries. To do something about the frigs. But if it's jammed ur screwed.
So maybe turrets on everything. Chance of ppl having TD is reduced because it's not useful in every match.
Lorpion in the tourny? (sexy new looking Lorpion too!)
But also want launchers for FOFs if ur really screwed. So both weapon types on each ship? Leaves lows for armor tank, plus damnation? |
Amarr Supremacist |
Posted - 2010.06.03 16:30:00 - [ 27]
Holy...look how stupid you are, Captain. |
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.06.03 17:21:00 - [ 28]
I'm glad to see that IRON are still an elite PvP organization. |
Captain Campion
Viziam
|
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:06:00 - [ 29]
Edited by: Captain Campion on 03/06/2010 23:08:31 Originally by: Amarr Supremacist
Holy...look how stupid you are, Captain.
Originally by: Elise Randolph
I'm glad to see that IRON are still an elite PvP organization.
Thanks for your contributions. I always watch the tournament, it's really interesting, but I have nobody to discuss it with :( |
Lady Karma |
Posted - 2010.06.03 23:44:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: Captain Campion
I always watch the tournament, it's really interesting, but I have nobody to discuss it with :(
Did you miss the last 2 years? There was this thing about logi gangs being a bit dull, maybe you skipped over it. Since this is a Flag ship thread, maybe you want to add you comments to the http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=notloggedIntoEveForaLongTime thread. You can continue your tactic discussion there. |
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