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Larkonis Trassler
Doctrine.
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Posted - 2010.04.28 08:49:00 - [ 1]
Before I start, this isn't an 'I hate Ankh' rant. To be quite honest I couldn't really give two hoots if she gets in and it's pretty obvious that she will.
I was perusing the candidate page last night and I got thinking. Given the fact that the page is huge and there are so many candidates and the attention span of the average Eve player is it not somewhat biased to have the candidates listed alphabetically? As a first time/unsure voter the thought of trawling through so many walls of text and websites would certainly give me a rectal twitch. One would be more likely to just pick someone near the top who represented some of my needs rather than read all the way to the bottom and pick someone who represented them all.
How about randomising the candidate listing each time it loads? Those looking for a specific candidate can always CTRL-F. |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten. |
Posted - 2010.04.28 08:55:00 - [ 2]
Shiptoasting in a Lark thread.  |
Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp |
Posted - 2010.04.28 11:06:00 - [ 3]
I see your point, but...
Having candidates' names in alphabetical order makes it easier for voters who already have a name in mind to find their candidate. Random order would make that much more difficult--and as we all know, many EVE players have little tolerance for *effort*.
I'd hate to think a voter with my name in mind might--in annoyance at not being able to easily find me in a random jumble of 53 candidates--click the first convenient name simply to be done with the task of voting.
I'd rather my campaign efforts not be sabotaged by making it harder for my supporters to cast a vote for me. I can live with the fact that undecided or uninformed voters won't have the patience to get down the list to my message before they click a Vote button.
♥
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TeaDaze
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire |
Posted - 2010.04.28 11:09:00 - [ 4]
It doesn't seem to be in alphabetical order however I do support randomising the positions on every page load. |
Legs Mackenzie |
Posted - 2010.04.28 11:24:00 - [ 5]
If it remains static, I'd bet 100m that whoever is in the top spot gets voted in. Regardless of who it is. |
Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp |
Posted - 2010.04.28 12:23:00 - [ 6]
Edited by: Mynxee on 28/04/2010 12:23:24 Originally by: TeaDaze
It doesn't seem to be in alphabetical order however I do support randomising the positions on every page load.
Hmm, you're right, it doesn't seem to be. For some reason, I assumed it was. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition. |
Posted - 2010.04.28 13:56:00 - [ 7]
I support this 100%! |
Dierdra Vaal
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp |
Posted - 2010.04.28 13:58:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 28/04/2010 13:58:25
I was the 1st candidate on the list for CSM3 and had about 33% (almost 1000 votes) more than the number 2. Coincidence?
We've been asking for a randomised list for years - c'mon ccp :/ |
Amarr Supremacist |
Posted - 2010.04.28 14:34:00 - [ 9]
Edited by: Amarr Supremacist on 28/04/2010 14:34:43 Originally by: Krugerrand
I dunno if CCP is able to manage such sophisticated levels of coding.
On a serious note, this is pretty stupid. |
AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa |
Posted - 2010.04.28 15:48:00 - [ 10]
I'll be completely honest, my first time voting I did exactly that. I was all "OOH voting" until I got to that wall o' text. I read the first website (at the top), sounded okay, and voted.  |
Bunyip
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies |
Posted - 2010.04.28 16:02:00 - [ 11]
When I'm soliciting votes for the CSM elections, I always direct people to VoterMatch to find their candidate. The page is good if you don't mind doing research and reading (same as the JP forum), but for the average voter it's no good.
From personal experience (when I ran in CSM terms 1 and 2), the candidates are placed on the page based on when they put their application to run in. TBH, that probably was a major factor for me being elected to the 2nd CSM.
I'm not sure what solution for the game is the best. Whether randomized or not, CCP just needs better metrics to help us pick (maybe a short list of categories or something, I dunno).
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Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2010.04.28 16:04:00 - [ 12]
ffs, randomize the order on refresh and have a dropdown box with alphabetical (by character name). It's not that bloody hard.  |
Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp |
Posted - 2010.04.28 16:16:00 - [ 13]
Edited by: Mynxee on 28/04/2010 16:16:14 Originally by: Omber Zombie
ffs, randomize the order on refresh and have a dropdown box with alphabetical (by character name). It's not that bloody hard.
This. Seriously.  Covers all the bases. |
Ankhesentapemkah
Gallente |
Posted - 2010.04.28 16:21:00 - [ 14]
Right now its ordered by submission time, I was aware of this and submitted mine within seconds of the page opening.
I'd like to see a rework of the promotional page, and a character limit on the campaign messages. Makes scrolling through the list easier, at the moment my own campaign message takes up half a page. Being able to view more candidates at once is a definite must. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate |
Posted - 2010.04.28 17:19:00 - [ 15]
This should have been in place for CSM1. It's utterly silly that it isn't yet. |
Ashina Sito
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies |
Posted - 2010.04.28 18:18:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
Right now its ordered by submission time
This. For CSM4 I was the last person to submit my application, about 2 hours before the deadline. So I was last on the list. I had an issue and was waiting for CCP to respond. I ran out of time and just went for it. Everything got cleared up a few days later anyway. Considering I placed about half way for the elections I think it went well. This time I seem to be in the middle for submission time... if the trend continues then I guess I will have the most votes of everyone, sorry people!!  Hay, while we are at it can we get them to rethink the HTML tags for the candidate messages? If the forums can handle putting in the HTML tags why can't the candidate submission page as well. |
Centurax
Caldari
Eve Engineering |
Posted - 2010.04.28 19:19:00 - [ 17]
I support randomizing the candidate listings, seems fair. |
Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
POD-SQUAD |
Posted - 2010.04.28 20:15:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
ffs, randomize the order on refresh and have a dropdown box with alphabetical (by character name). It's not that bloody hard.
If i can do it, CCP can. |
Lycanthis
StarHunt
R.A.G.E |
Posted - 2010.04.28 21:38:00 - [ 19]
I support randomized candidate listings |
Legs Mackenzie |
Posted - 2010.04.29 23:34:00 - [ 20]
I just wanted to bring this to the top again, as it seems patently unfair that the first to submit their application, in a vote with a set deadline, gets top boat. As mentioned in the thread before, top candidate will ALWAYS get into the CSM.
Randomize it before the elections, PLEASE, CCP, otherwise we'll just get Ankh+11 alliance candidates in.
There is no way this election can be considered fair unless you randomise the candidates list.
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T'Amber
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2010.05.03 07:04:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Omber Zombie
ffs, randomize the order on refresh and have a dropdown box with alphabetical (by character name). It's not that bloody hard.
^^^ what he said. -T'amber |
yani dumyat
Minmatar
Pixie Cats
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Posted - 2010.05.03 08:31:00 - [ 22]
It's the drivel written by candidates that stops me from scrolling down. Limiting text to a slogan and a few bullet points would prevent a lot of bleeding eyes. |
Manalapan
Dynasty Banking
General Tso's Alliance |
Posted - 2010.05.04 03:10:00 - [ 23]
I think this is a good idea but it should be a little more advanced than a list.
The page should be randomly loaded but there should be a search option so if you already know who you are voting for you can use that (Browser Finder but on the page). |
Axexut
Caldari
AWE Corporation
Intrepid Crossing |
Posted - 2010.05.04 10:16:00 - [ 24]
Edited by: Axexut on 04/05/2010 10:22:07
Meh.
So glad you choose a name starting with "M" or similar so you don't get primaried in fleets (even if the red FC calls reverse order), yet whine here . . .
Deal with it, as those of us dumb enough to select a name starting with "A" have been doing our entire Eve career! (and it was dumb!)
I'd gladly trade you a CSM seat for all the times called primary in battle . . . .
Meh. Seems some people just want to complain no matter what! |
Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp |
Posted - 2010.05.06 16:16:00 - [ 25]
I just noticed that CSM candidates are now listed in random order, different each time the Candidates page is viewed, rather than is the fixed sequence based on when they submitted their apps.
This is good. Thanks for addressing the concerns, CCP! |
Avalloc
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation |
Posted - 2010.05.06 20:18:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Axexut
I'd gladly trade you a CSM seat for all the times called primary in battle . . . .
I feel your pain. And it is even worse for me since I would fly Scorpions, Rooks, and Falcons. Oh how I miss the days when my Falcon could jam at over 200+ km which meant I had time to warp out before they tackled me. |
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