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Ithiria Deritan
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.04.18 01:25:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Ithiria Deritan on 18/04/2010 01:41:56
Forward:
For those that don’t know me, my name is Ithiria Deritan, Holder in the Khanid Kingdom and CEO of Disciples of Night Corporation. For those that do know me, Hello. For everyone I hope you enjoy the read or at least learn something from what comes after this.
Now, I am writing this book, or for some guide at the suggestion of my wife and a few others. The book is a guidelines and basis of how I control and run my slaves lives. My many opponents, including the Ushra'Khan, the Tribal Liberation Force, and many others, claim all holders are evil; all holders beat and harm their slaves. Well, hopefully this will at least help those understand that not all of us holders are that way; some of us treat our slaves better than even most commoners. To be fair, some do though and if any of you wish to verify anything I have said here about my treatment I encourage you to contact my slaves and ask them yourself. Finding the list will not be that hard, just look me up on the neocom they are listed in my public bio.
(OOC note: the following chapters are just partial, assume they go into greater detail but these are the main points)
Chapter 1: Clothing and Feeding of a slave.
The first thing a Good holder, or decent holder needs to do, to make a slave loyal is not using Vitoxin or any beatings, but by treating them at least as humans. Do not cloth your slave in rags or nothing at all, but provide at least a decent robe, if not pants and shirt for them. This will usually show your newly acquired property that you actually care about their lives. Now, this is not to say clothe them with a wardrobe of items like you yourself may have right away but at least make it so they keep some of their dignity. I would suggest two pairs of robes to start and in female slave cases a bra for daily use. Let your slave know that this is just the start, as they prove their good behavior and loyalty reward them with better clothing, or more clothing. No one expects you to dress them as you would another holder or noble, but eventually, they should be able to acquire at least one set of dress clothing to wear while attending you at formal functions. Also for clothing include once in awhile the option for them to pick, if you just give them robes, and you think they have earned a new set of clothing, take them with you, and stop by a commoners store, not one that specializes in slaves clothing and let them pick it. This should make them feel that they do have a little bit of say without giving them too much and it will show that while lower status they are not completely an animal or object. Also make sure laundry facilities are available for them to keep their clothing clean and smell free.
Feeding a slave, should also be one of the main things that you MUST do, a unhealthy starved slave is useless to themselves and you, they will have no energy no strength and no real will to go on living. This is also a sticky point because many slave rebellions in the past were because they needed food, and they rose up to take it while the Holders that owned them feasted on Whole pigs, meals fit for kings while they wallowed around. My advice is the first meal should be 24 hours after you purchase a slave from market, as this gives you time to have them checked out by a medic to ensure that they are not malnourished, as many slave markets barely feed their slaves as a money saving technique. And once checked by the medical personnel the meal should be tailored to meet the body needs of missing and lacking vitamins and nutrients, and it should be small, otherwise the slave will become ill from eating too much too fast. After this first meal moving them back to a three meals a day system will work well. Make sure the meals have all the vitamins and nutrients the human body needs, but don’t worry about feeding them a feast. Let them once again know the quality of the meal will increase as they prove themselves to you the holder. But do follow through and |
Ithiria Deritan
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.04.18 01:31:00 - [ 2]
Chapter 2: Night Care of your slave.
This is a short chapter, or well should be, but night time care of your slave should rate closer to your own care than most. Make sure your slave has the proper toiletries to keep their bodies clean, their teeth brushed and clean, and for females, of course, specialized products. An unhealthy body can come from not allowing your slave to shower or clean, and this can lead to diseases, illnesses, and other things that will take them away from your service and either kill them or hospitalize them. Making sure they are healthy in this way will make sure they are happy as they may see even commoners that are sick or other slaves that are sick and they will thank you in some form for making sure they were not. Each slave should be provided their own bedrooms if you can afford it or a barracks style if you cannot afford to give each a room. But make sure they actually have beds in either case not sleeping on the floor or on a cot but on a real actual bed, this will provide them comfort and a better rest so they have the energy to complete their daily tasks for you.
Chapter 3: Training a Slave.
Many will ask, have asked, or may just wonder, since I do not use Vitoxin to control or train my slaves, how do I do it. This is simple. I make them Promises that a normal commoner would never ever have. And I follow through with my promises. You would be surprised how many minmatar or even amarr slaves (for those enslaved due to crimes against the empire) jump at the chance to learn and prove themselves, knowing that if they do their duties and tasks to a decent level they will be rewarded with stuff a normal person would have to work years for. Training can be simple, from giving them books to learn from, or having paid servants show them a couple times. They will learn, do not expect one hundred percent efficiency from them on day one, this is unreasonable. But give them time. Also follow through on your promise of what you will give them, going back on the promise will cause resentment and cause you as the holder problems. Another way of training is through punishment I will admit, but do not flog or beat your slaves. Locking them in their bedroom denying them any social contact, or if you allow them contact with their family cutting that off will serve and make them understand that while you won’t hurt them for failures or misbehaving they will be punished and eventually they will learn that they did wrong.
When Training your slave, it’s also wise, not to assume they don’t know anything, most people know how to vacuum or do laundry. The best bet is to ask them after you have bought them as well… most slave markets will charge more for skilled slaves and most slaves will not tell the marketer what skills they have making the seller assume they are more qualified than they really are.
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Ithiria Deritan
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.04.18 01:36:00 - [ 3]
Chapter 4: Purchasing a Slave or slaves.
Many will say, this should have been chapter 1, but I disagree. If you as a slaver holder are not prepared to have a slave or prepared to do even a bit of the first three chapters you have no business even considering purchase of a slave. While each slave is owned and technically has few rights, they are still human no matter what, and must be treated as such or they will revolt.
Now the first thing, one should look for in a new slave is age. If they are too young like children they should not be on the auction or sellers block, anything under fourteen qualifies as too young. However there is an exception to this rule. If you are purchasing a family then child should be included but not charged for, mainly because it is unethical to split children from their parents. The second thing is Physical status, if they are ill, malnourished or severely injured Do not discount them but buy them, you can force a cheaper price, and then get them medical attention as I stated back in chapter 1. If they are healthy and normal they will serve just as well, so look them completely over, checking everything you can.
Purchasing sex slaves is a big no no, and if you find a market selling slaves for that purpose you can do a few things, either buy them and report the market to the Imperial Authorities or just report them immediately, to the Imperial Authorities, or even some groups out there that resist slavers such as sex slavers, the names of which since I do not have permission to identify I will not list here. I know some Holders however do fall in love with their slaves and sleep with them, but if it’s consensual then it is between them and really not the right of others to discuss, since most have sex when in love.
Chapter 5: Training your Slave to be a Capsuleer.
A lot say do not do this, it just gives the slave more resources to revolt, and while true, If the slave feels better cared for than they would have been as a freeman then it is highly likely that they will remain loyal, though once the training is complete, freedom might be a reward, one of the final rewards that a holder can give to a slave who has earned their freedom. It’s also a good thing, as I listed in Training a slave that if you promise some the training to follow through. A lot of slaves or commoners would love to become a demi-god or goddess in space. So if you follow through with your promise of helping them become one then loyalty will be there. I myself provide the expenses required in becoming one to my slaves, but I will not force being a capsuleer on them. Also look at the other aspect, if they are loyal and capsuleers they can act as bodyguards as well and most usually will happily defend you knowing if they die it will only be for like five seconds before they are in their new body.
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Ithiria Deritan
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.04.18 01:41:00 - [ 4]
Chapter 6: Freedom for your slave
Freedom, what everyone demands or thinks must be given instantly. Fine fair, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Should you eventually free your slaves, the answer is yes with certain exceptions. If a slave asks to remain your property, remains yours and declines freedom, then you can keep them since at that point they may still hold the title and social status of slave but they are more of a retainer or servant, but forcing them to be free would be a violation of their basic rights that they have earned up to the point of freedom.
Many ask how to decide when to free a slave, well. There is a easy way of figuring it out, How much did you pay for them. If you paid one million Isk, then you can set a daily price, say one thousand isk a day, there for in just under three years they would be freed, letting your slave know on the first day how much they have to work off then it does also help. But also be warned especially when you purchase a slave form a prison, you may not be able to free them, as some prisoners are given the choice, serve thirty years hard labor or imprisonment or serve the thirty years as a slave. If this is the case, without government approval you cannot free the slave no matter how much you wish to.
Chapter 7: Punishing a Slave.
Now I spoke briefly on this in chapter 3, about how you can punish a slave without beating them senseless or using Vitoxin. Punishing a slave can be as simple as locking them in their room, denying contact with the outside world, or contact with their families. If you allow your slave to have a relationship with someone, revoking that right for a week or two can serve very well also. Even putting them on bread and water for their meals can serve well. How you punish truthfully is up to you, but know you will receive complaints form others if you do beat them and well beatings also can lead to rebellion.
Epilogue:
I thank those that have taken the time to read this or download it, and I do expect a certain amount of hate mail and hateful comments from both holders and opponents to slavery, and will accept that but, this hopefully will give some people more insight into the fact not all slavers are as evil as you think.
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.04.20 16:31:00 - [ 5]
No matter how much you may or may not coddle your slaves you are still keeping them as slaves. People are not and never can be property, it is the sickest of perversions of justice that your society and government continues to treat them as such.
We come for our people. |
Repentence Tyrathlion
Amarr
Preta Light Industries |
Posted - 2010.04.20 17:17:00 - [ 6]
If only more would see things like this... even if some blindly spout the same pro-emancipation stance, some of us understand. You are to be commended for putting forward proof that slavery as a whole is not broken, Ms Deritan. |
Aria Jenneth
Caldari
Kumiho's Smile
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Posted - 2010.04.20 19:42:00 - [ 7]
 Originally by: Borza Slavak
No matter how much you may or may not coddle your slaves you are still keeping them as slaves. People are not and never can be property, it is the sickest of perversions of justice that your society and government continues to treat them as such.
Tell you what, pilot: instead of everyone fighting this silly proxy war, let's go straight to the source by putting your moral absolutes in a ring with the Amarrian god. How much do you think we'd net if we sold tickets? |
Ithiria Deritan
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.04.27 06:44:00 - [ 8]
Edited by: Ithiria Deritan on 27/04/2010 06:45:06 Originally by: Borza Slavak
No matter how much you may or may not coddle your slaves you are still keeping them as slaves. People are not and never can be property, it is the sickest of perversions of justice that your society and government continues to treat them as such.
We come for our people.
What People? Your ursha Khan, you even fight Minmatar's. So I dont see any chance of you coming for "your people" as I hold NO U'K members Repentance, and Aria I thank you for you comments and compliments. |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 09:55:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: Borza Slavak
No matter how much you may or may not coddle your slaves you are still keeping them as slaves. People are not and never can be property, it is the sickest of perversions of justice that your society and government continues to treat them as such.
We come for our people.
Most interesting. On one hand you say that slavery is wrong, and on the other you say that you're coming for your people. So your line is that slavery is a bad thing, but you're quite happy to let non-Minmatars (such as Ealurians) be enslaved. |
Tizian Enel
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2010.04.27 09:58:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Borza Slavak
No matter how much you may or may not coddle your slaves you are still keeping them as slaves. People are not and never can be property, it is the sickest of perversions of justice that your society and government continues to treat them as such.
We come for our people.
Most interesting. On one hand you say that slavery is wrong, and on the other you say that you're coming for your people.
So your line is that slavery is a bad thing, but you're quite happy to let non-Minmatars (such as Ealurians) be enslaved.
The slogan is not "We come for our people only". |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 10:07:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: Tizian Enel
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Borza Slavak
No matter how much you may or may not coddle your slaves you are still keeping them as slaves. People are not and never can be property, it is the sickest of perversions of justice that your society and government continues to treat them as such.
We come for our people.
Most interesting. On one hand you say that slavery is wrong, and on the other you say that you're coming for your people.
So your line is that slavery is a bad thing, but you're quite happy to let non-Minmatars (such as Ealurians) be enslaved.
The slogan is not "We come for our people only".
So you would take Ealurians, who for generations have been a part of Amarrian society, and forcibly re-locate them into a culture which they know next to nothing about and which bears no resemblance to anything that they've experienced? And who exactly made the Ushra'Khan the custodians of the Ealur anyway? |
Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.04.27 14:07:00 - [ 12]
The Ushra'Khan as I recall fought against all slavers, to free all those in chains. Including the Ealur. I ask all freedom fighters. Many slaves are of Amarrian descent. Are they any less deserving of freedom? |
Mizhara Del'thul
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari |
Posted - 2010.04.27 14:20:00 - [ 13]
Nationality and race is irrelevant. The treatment of the slaves is irrelevant. All that matters is ending and destroying those who would name other humans property. There is no grey. There is no complexity. There is no excuse, degree, reasoning or 'enlightenment'.
There are few absolutes in this universe. There are few things that are black and white.
That a slaveholder is a vile evil even such as we Du'uma Fiisi have trouble matching is one of them. Slaver Deritan... Your petty excuses, poor attempts at justification and ridiculous reasoning is an illusion. A denial of what you and your kind knows to be true. That you are damned by your very own actions, reducing humans to property and slaves.
I would actually have a tiny measure of respect from a Holder that'd admit to it. That'd say "I know what I am, and do it regardless." They would at the very least be honest, unlike you vile scum, that lie even to yourself about being Holders.
You are worthy of nothing but pure, black hatred, Slaver Deritan. Enjoy the company of the apologists, weakminded appeasers and spineless churls that will inevitably say "Oh, but she's a nice slaver." There are just enough of us out there that knows the truth. And at some point... maybe today. Maybe in twenty years. Maybe in a hundred... Your kind will be extinct from the cluster. |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 14:40:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Kazzzi
The Ushra'Khan as I recall fought against all slavers, to free all those in chains. Including the Ealur.
I ask all freedom fighters. Many slaves are of Amarrian descent. Are they any less deserving of freedom?
If an Amarrian is a slave, it's becuase they or their forebears did something to deserve it. Many are criminals. Does the Ushra'Khan believe that criminals should be set free? |
Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
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Posted - 2010.04.27 15:00:00 - [ 15]
Blasphemy is a "crime" in the Amarr Empire, your legal system is as dysfunctional and corrupt as your man-made religion.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.04.27 15:34:00 - [ 16]
But you'd free murderers, right? |
Gaia Aemilia
Amarr
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2010.04.27 15:56:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
If an Amarrian is a slave, it's becuase they or their forebears did something to deserve it. Many are criminals.
Does the Ushra'Khan believe that criminals should be set free?
Admiral Blake, the lesser races have no notion of good and right, they have no sense of morality. All that drives them are the basic instincts, to murder, to eat, to reproduce, and to relieve themselves. Usually they do not care about the place or the public where they perform these four basic instincts. They aren't human like us Amarrians, they are mere animals, and should be treated as such. Every animal can be taught a few tricks, and the two most important ones should be not to try and kill everything in sight, and no to relieve themselves wherever they please. On a related notion, I have heard that if you starve a Minmatar long enough, it will eat it's own *****. |
Kazzzi
Amarr
Heathen Legion
Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.04.27 16:15:00 - [ 18]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
But you'd free murderers, right?
You keep Amarrian murderers as slaves? Is this appropriate under Imperial law? If so, who did they kill?  In the quest to end the enslavement of the Minmatar people, we often overlook the many Amarrians who are in the same predicament. Yes, some may be criminals, but others are merely the disinherited or disgraced, or those who spoke out against the Empire, or clashed with Imperial authorities. Let us not forget them. |
Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
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Posted - 2010.04.27 16:26:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
But you'd free murderers, right?
If someone is allegedly guilty of a serious crime, we would not take this at face value - the Amarrian legal system is corrupt to the core. Clearly a judicial review would be required. |
Gottii
Minmatar
Lutinari Syndicate
Electus Matari |
Posted - 2010.04.27 19:51:00 - [ 20]
Edited by: Gottii on 27/04/2010 19:53:16 Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Tell you what, pilot: instead of everyone fighting this silly proxy war, let's go straight to the source by putting your moral absolutes in a ring with the Amarrian god.
How much do you think we'd net if we sold tickets?
Lack of a meaningful moral compass is not wisdom, nor is the inability to discern fairly self-evident ethical, social, and economic realities. Try harder. |
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