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Shukuzen Kiraa
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2010.02.25 00:47:00 - [1]
 

I have heard alot of different answers when I asked in the rookie channel on Eve.
I am currently at 4 with all my basic learning skills and 3 with the advanced ones, I am just wondering if I should take the time to max them all to 5 before learning anything else? I am using +3 implants and I remapped and maxxed out my memory to make the training times go quicker so it would not take all that long to max the skills out. But now I am hearing that I should not max them all to 5. Any input/advice would be appreciated. Thanks

Matalino
Posted - 2010.02.25 00:54:00 - [2]
 

Train skills to have fun. If you are having fun training skills faster then continue to train learning skills. If there is something else that you want to train, then go for it. Don't let the "need" to train learning skills prevent you from having fun now.

Ruddy Rax
Posted - 2010.02.25 00:55:00 - [3]
 

depends how long you plan to stick around for use evemon to plan a skill tree and when your finished putting everything in that you want to learn it'll tell you if increasing your learning skills will make the training any faster

Merouk Baas
Gallente
Posted - 2010.02.25 02:03:00 - [4]
 

In my opinion, 4/3,+3 is good enough for starting up. The implants are cheap, and you don't waste too much time on the learning skills. 5/4,+4 would be the next step, and it takes several weeks of training (plus the more expensive implants), for about 10% speed increase. Which means, you lose several weeks of training regular skills, for a 10% improvement in speed - it'll take you the better part of a year to make up the "lost" time.

Zartrader
Posted - 2010.02.25 07:53:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Merouk Baas
In my opinion, 4/3,+3 is good enough for starting up. The implants are cheap, and you don't waste too much time on the learning skills. 5/4,+4 would be the next step, and it takes several weeks of training (plus the more expensive implants), for about 10% speed increase. Which means, you lose several weeks of training regular skills, for a 10% improvement in speed - it'll take you the better part of a year to make up the "lost" time.


Yes I did that and it allowed me to get on and play the game at a reasonable progression speed.

Also Op, a lot of advice in the noob channel (except from the Ops) is completely wrong, heavily biased or ignores what a players needs are, I just hope none of them are professional advisors in real life, they would be a disaster and likely lose lives, they are that terrible.

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2010.02.25 10:02:00 - [6]
 


There's different ways of looking at it.

If you're ever going to train to 5/4 ... then the sooner you do it - the more benefit you'll gain from it. The problem for a lot of people is - they've got no patience.

Do what you want to do.

I've got one character I trained to 5/5. *shrug* The thing is for me - is that I have multiple accounts - so I could effectively simply allow this guy to do nothing but train learning skills for a few months. Not everyone can do that.


Zartrader
Posted - 2010.02.25 11:05:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Zartrader on 25/02/2010 11:10:21




Originally by: Toshiro GreyHawk

There's different ways of looking at it.

If you're ever going to train to 5/4 ... then the sooner you do it - the more benefit you'll gain from it. The problem for a lot of people is - they've got no patience.

Do what you want to do.

I've got one character I trained to 5/5. *shrug* The thing is for me - is that I have multiple accounts - so I could effectively simply allow this guy to do nothing but train learning skills for a few months. Not everyone can do that.




It's not a matter of patience, it's a matter of getting to know the game well enough in the trail period to decide if its a game for them.

1. New player signs up for 14 or 21 day trial

2. New player told to do 5/5

3. New player twiddles his thumbs and gets bored.

4. New player leaves as in this big old world there are a lot more interesting things to do than that.

I think learning skills are the one thing that CCP dropped the ball on as they are the only skills with no direct ingame effect which you are forced to do early in the game to get the maximum benefit. Every other skill has some effect you can see and immediately benefit from, especially the early skills you need. No other skill do you need to do early to get its full benefit. This is not a smart way to get players to learn even the basics of a game and get hooked on it. It's not 'hard core' it's just a terrible game mechanic that should be replaced with a better system, especially as it encourages the habit of station spinning rather than getting out and enjoying the game.

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2010.02.25 11:18:00 - [8]
 

It is best if you simply train what you feel like. I am not joking.

4/3 is more than enough for now.

People say "If you will stay in EvE for a long time, train all learning to V/IV first". I completely disagree.

If you will stay in EvE for a long time, pick something you want to fly, and can fly soon (like... rifter) load up some setup that seems fun into Evemon and just train the recommended learning.

The two or three weeks you will save by training learning first, are completely insignificant in the long run.

If you plan to stay, loosing weeks of training is nothing.

After a year or two you will already have trouble finding skills to train (that actually interest you), so 2 weeks or even a month of wasted training is insignificant, when compared to the effect of your first month being a boring experience.

Zartrader
Posted - 2010.02.25 12:15:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: foksieloy
It is best if you simply train what you feel like. I am not joking.

4/3 is more than enough for now.

People say "If you will stay in EvE for a long time, train all learning to V/IV first". I completely disagree.

If you will stay in EvE for a long time, pick something you want to fly, and can fly soon (like... rifter) load up some setup that seems fun into Evemon and just train the recommended learning.

The two or three weeks you will save by training learning first, are completely insignificant in the long run.

If you plan to stay, loosing weeks of training is nothing.

After a year or two you will already have trouble finding skills to train (that actually interest you), so 2 weeks or even a month of wasted training is insignificant, when compared to the effect of your first month being a boring experience.


Yes exactly, and playing the game is a better form of learning than SP's anyway.


 

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