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Liteshow
Caldari
A Lite in the Darkness
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:29:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: William Pierce
A few hours ago, Shadowandlight decided he was fed up with being so terrible. So he decided to change the name to Retribution Incarna because he thought it was pretty. In the process, he manages to misread some very important rues about sov and drops all systems, (6 systems, 4 stations), freezes the change to the new alliance, and retake their systems.

We are now retaking their systems and stations for them, aren't we lucky they got screwed by someone's (hopefully) honest mistake? Very Happy


There i fixed it far ya...Wink

Xyla Vulchanus
Amarr
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:30:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: StainLessStealRat
Edited by: StainLessStealRat on 17/02/2010 23:09:59
Originally by: Forlorn Wongraven
Edited by: Forlorn Wongraven on 17/02/2010 20:24:39
Accepting contracts from CVA pets for 40% market value again in 3D and Z-R. You guys make me broke. Shocked

Confirming this is true UK are now so broke they did not pay Sov bill and systems are nuet again.
Ahh the irony of the station name is just too goodVery Happy


Hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your ignorance.


Originally by: Night Epoch
Edited by: Night Epoch on 17/02/2010 23:20:22

What the hell just happened? U'K dropped sov right after taking it with no downtime cycle in between, so it's not a problem on that end. AM space is now totally unclaimed after belonging to U'K for, what, an hour? Rolling Eyes

While I'd HATE to see U'K actually take the space (we did, in fact, want that space anyway kthx), I'd also hate to see them fail to take it because of a CCP failbug.

Then again, there are reports that AM did not intend on dropping sov all at once (Shadowandlight is a talented player and wouldn't do something so stupid), and were unable to online TCUs when they should have immediately after creation of the new alliance - so I'd ALSO hate to see AM lose space to U'K because of the same CCP failbug.


CLEARLY there is something game-breaking at work here. I'd hope that U'K would hold off posting complaints in here that their sov capture was ruined by a bug in the mechanic - when in fact it may be the same bug that gave them an opportunity to make a try for AM space in the first place. CCP intervention will be required here.


You seriously can't see any difference between an alliance acting in a hugely stupid way that causes them to drop sov and a bug which just cancels sov randomly?

CCP really should offer an explanation here because after all the bugs and rollbacks and POS's shooting friendlies etc, it's starting to appear suspicious.

Paddington
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:35:00 - [33]
 

/me dons Tin foil hat

Laughing


CCP Sort it out and stop being so fail please

Black Necris
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Damu'Khonde
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:59:00 - [34]
 

i guess we all should assume that ccp will answer with their usual fail-mail "our logs yada yada we fail".

IMHO this is an insult to all those who fought and died on those fights, providence pilots, and uk -a- pilots.


William Pierce
Caldari
Zor Industries
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:09:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Liteshow
Originally by: William Pierce
A few hours ago, Shadowandlight decided he was fed up with being so terrible. So he decided to change the name to Retribution Incarna because he thought it was pretty. In the process, he manages to misread some very important rues about sov and drops all systems, (6 systems, 4 stations), freezes the change to the new alliance, and retake their systems.

We are now retaking their systems and stations for them, aren't we lucky they got screwed by someone's (hopefully) honest mistake? Very Happy


There i fixed it far ya...Wink


Yeah, this is probably closer to the truth.

But then again, when has CAOD ever cared about the truth? Laughing

Siva Calentis
Caldari
Therapy.
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2010.02.18 02:14:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Black Necris
i guess we all should assume that ccp will answer with their usual fail-mail "our logs yada yada we fail".

IMHO this is an insult to all those who fought and died on those fights, providence pilots, and uk -a- pilots.




We all have seen the CCP fail mail reply thats why i now propose that whenever we do cap sov all players take screen shots of the notice, and if CCP does LOL fail again then everyone mail CCP a copy of the image at a 10000x10000 res accompanied with a long strongly worded email.

Conlin
Gallente
LangToun
Posted - 2010.02.18 02:16:00 - [37]
 

"CCP rolls back UK does not"

Agent Unknown
Caldari
Night Theifs
Apotheosis of Virtue
Posted - 2010.02.18 02:18:00 - [38]
 

Looks like the station in 3D was flipped again back to AM. YARRRR!!

Tagami Wasp
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.18 04:37:00 - [39]
 

WTB CCP dev for our alliance as well. Oh wait, then CVA and pets won't have any advantage at all.

CCP fail.

shanda captison
Gallente
The Littlest Hobos
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.18 06:39:00 - [40]
 

2nd time this has happened to us, the other time we were sat shooting the station with 50 guys for ages, get it to structure, server crashes, hp pretty much resets. Rolling Eyes

The sov bill we have the log from our corp wallet saying we were billed and we paid it, so god knows what happened.

Pantorus Necraliss
Minmatar
Giza'Msafara
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:00:00 - [41]
 

Quote:
CCP really should offer an explanation here because after all the bugs and rollbacks and POS's shooting friendlies etc, it's starting to appear suspicious.


It's sad, but that more and more my point of view !

CCP have all proof and don't want to fix this "bug" (if it is one and not someone playing to god), did they indirectly help Provi holders Question

CCP have to explain and have to be convincingExclamation

Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:01:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Tagami Wasp
WTB CCP dev for our alliance as well. Oh wait, then CVA and pets won't have any advantage at all.

CCP fail.


Lag happens and effects both sides, some more than others (Check D-G). Claiming that CVA and their allies get intentional developer favors just makes you look stupid. CCP is obviously at fault here, and hopefully they'll improve their game and their servers, if you have logs then escalating them to a senior GM would be the best option.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:12:00 - [43]
 

Anyone from UK who thinks this is a tinfoil conspiracy needs to STFU and stop posting (preferably forever).

CCP have an established position of not getting involved with sov bugs - the only thing you can do is hope it was identified and fixed, because it's a pretty serious bug and could in theory affect anyone.

From our side, we have all the logs to prove nothing we did was incorrect, so I'm afraid I can't shed any light on why it happened. Anyway, it's an annoying delay but it is only a delay - nothing more.

Karn Mithralia
Minmatar
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:12:00 - [44]
 

Heh yeh dev hacks is a crazy talk.

But its painfully annoying way to lose sov - due to nothing.

Bills paid, everything online as it should be .. then bam no sov. Rolling Eyes

Pantorus Necraliss
Minmatar
Giza'Msafara
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:22:00 - [45]
 

I've done more than 10 active hours of cta for nothing yesterday, so i'm a bit angry.
And because CCP have all proof and don't want do correct the sovereignty i'm a bit more angry.

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:40:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Pantorus Necraliss
I've done more than 10 active hours of cta for nothing yesterday, so i'm a bit angry.
And because CCP have all proof and don't want do correct the sovereignty i'm a bit more angry.


it's not worth getting 'angry' about my fellow terrible UK poster

also, it wasn't for nothing, ~goodfights~ were had in US timezone, what more could you ask? ~

Orokar Blane
Minmatar
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:54:00 - [47]
 

~good fights~ in Euro zone too.

Heria Herath
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.02.18 08:01:00 - [48]
 

Aaand the bug hits Proviblob as well.. Looks like there are more ~goodfights~ to be had. See you on the field o/

Algey
Caldari
The Littlest Hobos
Posted - 2010.02.18 08:01:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Butter Dog
Anyone from UK who thinks this is a tinfoil conspiracy needs to STFU and stop posting (preferably forever).


Agreed

Quote:
CCP have an established position of not getting involved with sov bugs


Well I can think of one instance where they returned sov to an alliance...

However the real problem is their woeful lack of customer service. If they had a petition category for major gamebreaking bugs that they actually investigated when a report was made then they could intervene. Instead they dump the petitions into queues that take a week to look at, then go "oh it is too late to do anything now without seeming arbitary and unfair".

As such we get to suck it up and continue paying to betatest this product :)

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2010.02.18 08:11:00 - [50]
 

Apparently AM just lost sov again in Z-R due to the same bug Laughing

We've taken to calling this bug "hour 48" as it seems to happen at that number of minutes past the hour after you claim sov

oh well, here is to more ~goodfights~

Algey
Caldari
The Littlest Hobos
Posted - 2010.02.18 08:17:00 - [51]
 

Shocked

Working as intended, no bugs here Very Happy

Hellfury Resurrected
Caldari
Incura
Posted - 2010.02.18 08:24:00 - [52]
 

lawl, this is pretty hilarious tbh Laughing

Xennith
Caldari
Imperial Logistics and Supply
Posted - 2010.02.18 08:34:00 - [53]
 

Well, we've had a lot of good fights recently in both J6 and 3D / ZR so its not all for nothing, the number of ships destroyed since the sov dropped is probably near to the thousands. We've been unlucky to be hit by this bug, but we were lucky that AM decided to effectively disband as well, so it could be worse, we could have had no fights at all and sat there with blueballs.

Forlorn Wongraven
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.18 09:25:00 - [54]
 

Currently new TCUs are onlining in Z-R and 3D - let's see if the bug comes back again.

Nagapito
Gallente
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2010.02.18 10:36:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Forlorn Wongraven
Currently new TCUs are onlining in Z-R and 3D - let's see if the bug comes back again.


This means that we must be ready to fight 48 minutes after the TCU gets online?Razz

zoolkhan
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.18 13:18:00 - [56]
 

Edited by: zoolkhan on 18/02/2010 13:44:26
Originally by: Lord Makk
you batphoned your allies, naturally we batphoned ours



with all this Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. batman showing up on the scene?

ps: CCP , stop digging in your logs... for the usual bangalore-template response... use this instead and explain:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/3D-CQU

Phineas Freak
Gallente
The Eden Trading International Corporation
Violent Entity
Posted - 2010.02.18 14:16:00 - [57]
 

w00t my first post on CAOD.

i want a fair winner in this TCU pingpong crap. everything else does not really matter.

My Thanks to all Allies and friends that help on our side, and thank you to UK, AAA, even Atlas and GC for joining our party uninvited, but with quite a few Kegs of Beer to go on... Just smash less porcelaine next round, my wife got really ****ed and refuses to dance with me now.

sidenote: Retribution Incarnate. Yeah. Good Luck with that. Gravity always Wins.


Garreck
Gallente
Amarr Border Defense Consortium
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
Posted - 2010.02.18 14:19:00 - [58]
 

Dunno if they're digging in their logs so much, Zool. Probably putting together another music video about how buggy their game is and laughing about managing to troll the whole south of Eve into continuing to meatgrind ships and TCUs for no measurable effect (beyond both sides' frustration) all over the most worthless space in the game Laughing

Forlorn Wongraven
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2010.02.18 15:04:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Nagapito
Originally by: Forlorn Wongraven
Currently new TCUs are onlining in Z-R and 3D - let's see if the bug comes back again.


This means that we must be ready to fight 48 minutes after the TCU gets online?Razz


3D TCU went offline again after sov was claimed. Bill paid yada yada. 29 minutes.

Virtuozzo
Gallente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2010.02.18 15:12:00 - [60]
 

You know, back in the day when sov was still attached to pos and all that, there were a bunch of cases with alliances changing name or reforming and sov consequently getting bugged consistantly because of broken references or something.



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