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 Liteshow Caldari A Lite in the Darkness
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Posted - 2010.02.17 23:29:00 - [ 31]
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 Xyla Vulchanus Amarr Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:30:00 - [ 32]
Originally by: StainLessStealRat Edited by: StainLessStealRat on 17/02/2010 23:09:59
Originally by: Forlorn Wongraven Edited by: Forlorn Wongraven on 17/02/2010 20:24:39 Accepting contracts from CVA pets for 40% market value again in 3D and Z-R. You guys make me broke. 
Confirming this is true UK are now so broke they did not pay Sov bill and systems are nuet again. Ahh the irony of the station name is just too good
Hey, don't let the facts get in the way of your ignorance. Originally by: Night Epoch Edited by: Night Epoch on 17/02/2010 23:20:22
What the hell just happened? U'K dropped sov right after taking it with no downtime cycle in between, so it's not a problem on that end. AM space is now totally unclaimed after belonging to U'K for, what, an hour?
While I'd HATE to see U'K actually take the space (we did, in fact, want that space anyway kthx), I'd also hate to see them fail to take it because of a CCP failbug.
Then again, there are reports that AM did not intend on dropping sov all at once (Shadowandlight is a talented player and wouldn't do something so stupid), and were unable to online TCUs when they should have immediately after creation of the new alliance - so I'd ALSO hate to see AM lose space to U'K because of the same CCP failbug.
CLEARLY there is something game-breaking at work here. I'd hope that U'K would hold off posting complaints in here that their sov capture was ruined by a bug in the mechanic - when in fact it may be the same bug that gave them an opportunity to make a try for AM space in the first place. CCP intervention will be required here.
You seriously can't see any difference between an alliance acting in a hugely stupid way that causes them to drop sov and a bug which just cancels sov randomly? CCP really should offer an explanation here because after all the bugs and rollbacks and POS's shooting friendlies etc, it's starting to appear suspicious. |
 Paddington Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:35:00 - [ 33]
/me dons Tin foil hat  CCP Sort it out and stop being so fail please |
 Black Necris Minmatar Sarz'na Khumatari Damu'Khonde |
Posted - 2010.02.17 23:59:00 - [ 34]
i guess we all should assume that ccp will answer with their usual fail-mail "our logs yada yada we fail".
IMHO this is an insult to all those who fought and died on those fights, providence pilots, and uk -a- pilots.
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 William Pierce Caldari Zor Industries Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2010.02.18 00:09:00 - [ 35]
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 Siva Calentis Caldari Therapy. R.A.G.E |
Posted - 2010.02.18 02:14:00 - [ 36]
Originally by: Black Necris i guess we all should assume that ccp will answer with their usual fail-mail "our logs yada yada we fail".
IMHO this is an insult to all those who fought and died on those fights, providence pilots, and uk -a- pilots.
We all have seen the CCP fail mail reply thats why i now propose that whenever we do cap sov all players take screen shots of the notice, and if CCP does LOL fail again then everyone mail CCP a copy of the image at a 10000x10000 res accompanied with a long strongly worded email. |
 Conlin Gallente LangToun
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Posted - 2010.02.18 02:16:00 - [ 37]
"CCP rolls back UK does not" |
 Agent Unknown Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue |
Posted - 2010.02.18 02:18:00 - [ 38]
Looks like the station in 3D was flipped again back to AM.  |
 Tagami Wasp Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.18 04:37:00 - [ 39]
WTB CCP dev for our alliance as well. Oh wait, then CVA and pets won't have any advantage at all.
CCP fail. |
 shanda captison Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.18 06:39:00 - [ 40]
2nd time this has happened to us, the other time we were sat shooting the station with 50 guys for ages, get it to structure, server crashes, hp pretty much resets.  The sov bill we have the log from our corp wallet saying we were billed and we paid it, so god knows what happened. |
 Pantorus Necraliss Minmatar Giza'Msafara
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Posted - 2010.02.18 07:00:00 - [ 41]
Quote: CCP really should offer an explanation here because after all the bugs and rollbacks and POS's shooting friendlies etc, it's starting to appear suspicious.
It's sad, but that more and more my point of view ! CCP have all proof and don't want to fix this "bug" (if it is one and not someone playing to god), did they indirectly help Provi holders  CCP have to explain and have to be convincing  |
 Suitonia Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:01:00 - [ 42]
Originally by: Tagami Wasp WTB CCP dev for our alliance as well. Oh wait, then CVA and pets won't have any advantage at all.
CCP fail.
Lag happens and effects both sides, some more than others (Check D-G). Claiming that CVA and their allies get intentional developer favors just makes you look stupid. CCP is obviously at fault here, and hopefully they'll improve their game and their servers, if you have logs then escalating them to a senior GM would be the best option. |
 Butter Dog Gallente The Monocled Elite
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Posted - 2010.02.18 07:12:00 - [ 43]
Anyone from UK who thinks this is a tinfoil conspiracy needs to STFU and stop posting (preferably forever).
CCP have an established position of not getting involved with sov bugs - the only thing you can do is hope it was identified and fixed, because it's a pretty serious bug and could in theory affect anyone.
From our side, we have all the logs to prove nothing we did was incorrect, so I'm afraid I can't shed any light on why it happened. Anyway, it's an annoying delay but it is only a delay - nothing more. |
 Karn Mithralia Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:12:00 - [ 44]
Heh yeh dev hacks is a crazy talk. But its painfully annoying way to lose sov - due to nothing. Bills paid, everything online as it should be .. then bam no sov.  |
 Pantorus Necraliss Minmatar Giza'Msafara
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Posted - 2010.02.18 07:22:00 - [ 45]
I've done more than 10 active hours of cta for nothing yesterday, so i'm a bit angry. And because CCP have all proof and don't want do correct the sovereignty i'm a bit more angry. |
 Butter Dog Gallente The Monocled Elite
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Posted - 2010.02.18 07:40:00 - [ 46]
Originally by: Pantorus Necraliss I've done more than 10 active hours of cta for nothing yesterday, so i'm a bit angry. And because CCP have all proof and don't want do correct the sovereignty i'm a bit more angry.
it's not worth getting 'angry' about my fellow terrible UK poster also, it wasn't for nothing, ~goodfights~ were had in US timezone, what more could you ask? ~ |
 Orokar Blane Minmatar The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost |
Posted - 2010.02.18 07:54:00 - [ 47]
~good fights~ in Euro zone too. |
 Heria Herath Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:01:00 - [ 48]
Aaand the bug hits Proviblob as well.. Looks like there are more ~goodfights~ to be had. See you on the field o/ |
 Algey Caldari The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:01:00 - [ 49]
Originally by: Butter Dog Anyone from UK who thinks this is a tinfoil conspiracy needs to STFU and stop posting (preferably forever).
Agreed Quote: CCP have an established position of not getting involved with sov bugs
Well I can think of one instance where they returned sov to an alliance... However the real problem is their woeful lack of customer service. If they had a petition category for major gamebreaking bugs that they actually investigated when a report was made then they could intervene. Instead they dump the petitions into queues that take a week to look at, then go "oh it is too late to do anything now without seeming arbitary and unfair". As such we get to suck it up and continue paying to betatest this product :) |
 Butter Dog Gallente The Monocled Elite
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:11:00 - [ 50]
Apparently AM just lost sov again in Z-R due to the same bug  We've taken to calling this bug "hour 48" as it seems to happen at that number of minutes past the hour after you claim sov oh well, here is to more ~goodfights~ |
 Algey Caldari The Littlest Hobos
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:17:00 - [ 51]
 Working as intended, no bugs here  |
 Hellfury Resurrected Caldari Incura
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:24:00 - [ 52]
lawl, this is pretty hilarious tbh  |
 Xennith Caldari Imperial Logistics and Supply
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:34:00 - [ 53]
Well, we've had a lot of good fights recently in both J6 and 3D / ZR so its not all for nothing, the number of ships destroyed since the sov dropped is probably near to the thousands. We've been unlucky to be hit by this bug, but we were lucky that AM decided to effectively disband as well, so it could be worse, we could have had no fights at all and sat there with blueballs. |
 Forlorn Wongraven Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.18 09:25:00 - [ 54]
Currently new TCUs are onlining in Z-R and 3D - let's see if the bug comes back again. |
 Nagapito Gallente The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels HYDRA RELOADED |
Posted - 2010.02.18 10:36:00 - [ 55]
Originally by: Forlorn Wongraven Currently new TCUs are onlining in Z-R and 3D - let's see if the bug comes back again.
This means that we must be ready to fight 48 minutes after the TCU gets online?  |
 zoolkhan Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.18 13:18:00 - [ 56]
Edited by: zoolkhan on 18/02/2010 13:44:26 Originally by: Lord Makk you batphoned your allies, naturally we batphoned ours
with all this Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. batman showing up on the scene? ps: CCP , stop digging in your logs... for the usual bangalore-template response... use this instead and explain: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/3D-CQU |
 Phineas Freak Gallente The Eden Trading International Corporation Violent Entity |
Posted - 2010.02.18 14:16:00 - [ 57]
w00t my first post on CAOD. i want a fair winner in this TCU pingpong crap. everything else does not really matter. My Thanks to all Allies and friends that help on our side, and thank you to UK, AAA, even Atlas and GC for joining our party uninvited, but with quite a few Kegs of Beer to go on... Just smash less porcelaine next round, my wife got really ****ed and refuses to dance with me now. sidenote: Retribution Incarnate. Yeah. Good Luck with that. Gravity always Wins. |
 Garreck Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2010.02.18 14:19:00 - [ 58]
Dunno if they're digging in their logs so much, Zool. Probably putting together another music video about how buggy their game is and laughing about managing to troll the whole south of Eve into continuing to meatgrind ships and TCUs for no measurable effect (beyond both sides' frustration) all over the most worthless space in the game  |
 Forlorn Wongraven Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2010.02.18 15:04:00 - [ 59]
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 Virtuozzo Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2010.02.18 15:12:00 - [ 60]
You know, back in the day when sov was still attached to pos and all that, there were a bunch of cases with alliances changing name or reforming and sov consequently getting bugged consistantly because of broken references or something.
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