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MiltGyver
Gallente |
Posted - 2009.12.22 02:11:00 - [ 1]
I got a gas harvesting mission from my command agent L4. I was surprised, and since I didn't have the skill trained I declined the mission, but it got me wondering how profitable gas harvesting is. I really have no idea. I'm not even clear on what gas is used for. I think booster production, but I thought it had to do with T3 production too...? Also, will gas ore (?) go in an orca ore hold?
Thanx |
mxzf
Minmatar
Shovel Bros |
Posted - 2009.12.22 02:37:00 - [ 2]
Clear up the easy answer first, I have no clue about gas in an Orca.
As to what gas is used for, the k-space gas is used for booster production and the w-space gas is used for T3 production.
With regards to profitability, the k-space gas is pretty much crap if you're not actually making the boosters, it sells for something like 3-10k ISK/unit I think (which is one 1m cycle for the T1 harvesters). The T3 gas was decently profitable last I looked (a month or two ago albeit), both because of greater demand and smaller size/unit. It was about on par with highsec mining I think when I was running 3 harvesters on an Exeq while doing homework. |
Mara Rinn |
Posted - 2009.12.22 03:20:00 - [ 3]
A bunch of points, not necessarily connected:
- Gas cannot be stored in an Orca's ore hold.
- Gas Harvesters require a turret slot, thus you could use a Ferox but not a Drake as a Gas Harvesting ship.
- You definitely cannot use an Orca to harvest gas, but the Orca can provide cycle time and range bonuses to the ship that is doing the harvesting.
- The highest number of Gas Harvesters you can mount is 5, when you have Gas Harvesting 5 and a ship with at least 5 turret hardpoints.
- T3 production relies on gasses harvested in w-space only.
- w-space gas harvesting is profitable.
- hisec gas harvesting is not profitable compared to mining veldspar in system belts or running level 4 courier missions.
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MiltGyver
Gallente |
Posted - 2009.12.22 05:09:00 - [ 4]
Thanks for that. Some additional questions.
Which clouds do damage? What size ship can withstand it? How much of a problem are the sleepers at a ladar site? |
Tau Cabalander |
Posted - 2009.12.22 06:45:00 - [ 5]
 Originally by: MiltGyver
Thanks for that. Some additional questions.
Which clouds do damage? What size ship can withstand it? How much of a problem are the sleepers at a ladar site?
I live in a C2. No clouds here do damage. C2 sleepers are a joke. HAC or BC will do. |
Buster Gonads |
Posted - 2009.12.22 09:12:00 - [ 6]
Out of interest, anyone know what class 5 or 6 WH sleepers are like at gas/asteroid sites? |
Qual
Gallente
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2009.12.22 13:50:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Buster Gonads
Out of interest, anyone know what class 5 or 6 WH sleepers are like at gas/asteroid sites?
C540 and C320 sites have 2x Advanced Sleeper BS. |
Babel
Utopian Research I.E.L.
Hedonistic Imperative |
Posted - 2009.12.22 14:26:00 - [ 8]
"yes", "yes - that too" and "no" ..... in that order :) |
MiltGyver
Gallente |
Posted - 2009.12.22 20:22:00 - [ 9]
Do rats keep reappearing or can you kill them all and then mine the place? |
illford baker
STK Scientific
IT Alliance |
Posted - 2009.12.22 21:22:00 - [ 10]
i am looking to do some gas cloud mining in null sec. what size ship would i need to survive the damaging affects of the cloud? |
Tau Cabalander |
Posted - 2009.12.22 21:57:00 - [ 11]
Originally by: MiltGyver
Do rats keep reappearing or can you kill them all and then mine the place?
They do not respawn. |
Buster Gonads |
Posted - 2009.12.22 22:40:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Qual
Originally by: Buster Gonads
Out of interest, anyone know what class 5 or 6 WH sleepers are like at gas/asteroid sites?
C540 and C320 sites have 2x Advanced Sleeper BS.
No experience of sleepers, would they be soloable in, say, an Abaddon? Or could you take them with a HAC? |
Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
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Posted - 2009.12.23 02:39:00 - [ 13]
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RC Denton |
Posted - 2009.12.23 22:01:00 - [ 14]
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Buster Gonads |
Posted - 2009.12.29 12:01:00 - [ 15]
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Disunia Vertas
Noir. |
Posted - 2009.12.29 14:31:00 - [ 16]
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Buster Gonads |
Posted - 2009.12.29 15:00:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Disunia Vertas
He's talking about the 2x Advanced Sleeper BS at the instrumental ladar sites. You can clear those with 1 t3 cruiser..
Ok, but what sleepers would you encounter in grav sites in 5/6 wormholes and what would you need to take them out? Thanks... |
K'uata Sayus |
Posted - 2009.12.29 15:27:00 - [ 18]
Buster, just jump in there and give it a go, you've got the gonads, eh? |
Andrea Griffin |
Posted - 2009.12.29 15:44:00 - [ 19]
The gas used for booster production can net you quite a good amount of money if you know the right buyer (and I do  ). You can find the gas clouds in low and null sec COSMOS constellations. Personally, I have only found a handful in my entire Eve career but they are out there. |
Buster Gonads |
Posted - 2009.12.29 16:10:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: K'uata Sayus
Buster, just jump in there and give it a go, you've got the gonads, eh?
Reading between the lines here, I'm guessing I know the answer to the question I'm asking. It's a bit like asking "what's the best thing to buy in the LP store" ;). The reason I was asking though, is because it's quite an investment in time, effort and ISK to get setup in a 5/6 for a long mining op. I wouldn't want to arrive unprepared. |
Disunia Vertas
Noir. |
Posted - 2009.12.29 16:13:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: Buster Gonads
Originally by: Disunia Vertas
He's talking about the 2x Advanced Sleeper BS at the instrumental ladar sites. You can clear those with 1 t3 cruiser..
Ok, but what sleepers would you encounter in grav sites in 5/6 wormholes and what would you need to take them out?
Thanks...
C5 top sites (grav/ladar) always spawn 2 BS and depending on type also a few frigs or cruisers. I've seen all types of C5 grav/ladar sites been cleared by 1 T3 cruiser. |
Kaznata |
Posted - 2010.02.20 18:39:00 - [ 22]
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Alex Kariik |
Posted - 2010.02.22 10:16:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Mara Rinn
A bunch of points, not necessarily connected:
- Gas cannot be stored in an Orca's ore hold.
- Gas Harvesters require a turret slot, thus you could use a Ferox but not a Drake as a Gas Harvesting ship.
- You definitely cannot use an Orca to harvest gas, but the Orca can provide cycle time and range bonuses to the ship that is doing the harvesting.
- The highest number of Gas Harvesters you can mount is 5, when you have Gas Harvesting 5 and a ship with at least 5 turret hardpoints.
- T3 production relies on gasses harvested in w-space only.
- w-space gas harvesting is profitable.
- hisec gas harvesting is not profitable compared to mining veldspar in system belts or running level 4 courier missions.
I have found that you can actually have 6 Gas cloud harvesters on your ship at once, with full skills and 6 turret hardpoints (at least according to EFT) I have yet to try this myself, but i believe you can, as I have been able to have 4 on my ship at level 3 gas harvesting. (IE, the gas cloud harvesting skill gives 1 extra harvester per level, with a starting limit of 1 at level 0) |
Ann Tarloir |
Posted - 2010.02.22 11:43:00 - [ 24]
You can put more gas cloud harvesters on your ship than you are actually able to use, i.e. if you have gas cloud harvesting 2, you can still put 3 harvesters on your ship, but when you go to activate the third one it will tell you you don't have the skill to do so. So you prob can fit 6 harvesters on a ship with 6 turret slots, but you still be able to use a max of 5. |
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