Posted - 2009.11.18 19:01:00 - [2]

 

Lol @ perkasie, thats what you get for trying to live in a "nice town" around here, they just need to move south of doylestown and east of warrington and they can hang up what ever they want. Hell if they wanted to hang up their kids on the line they could do that if they would only move a few miles away from Perkasie.

Posted - 2009.11.18 19:19:00 - [4]

 

Edited by: soldieroffortune 258 on 18/11/2009 19:20:00

Originally by: ceaon

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loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool


/hilarious

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What's so hilariously funny about the article? Seriously


EDIT:

That's cool, I broke zeh forums

Forum breaking removed. Breaking the forums can result in a warning/ban please refrain from doing so. . Zymurgist

Posted - 2009.11.18 19:47:00 - [6]

 

Originally by: ceaon

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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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What's so hilariously funny about the article?

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in my reality there is no place for stupid rules/norms like that, that thing really break my reality frame

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So wouldn't it just be easier to flame American law, or our way of life/way of thinking like you always do?

Posted - 2009.11.19 01:50:00 - [8]

 

America, **** yea!

Posted - 2009.11.19 03:10:00 - [10]

 

Edited by: Khemul Zula on 19/11/2009 03:13:03

Originally by: ceaon

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Originally by: soldieroffortune 258

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What's so hilariously funny about the article?

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in my reality there is no place for stupid rules/norms like that, that thing really break my reality frame

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What's so stupid about it?

There is actually logic behind associations/cities banning closelines. Most neighborhoods that ban them will not complain if you do it in an enclosed backyard. They just don't like it being visible from the street. Keep in mind that the association/city is very much concerned with how the neighborhood looks to potential buyers.

It is no stranger alteast then rules limiting what color you can paint your house. Or what plants/trees you are allowed to plant. Or what type of vehicles you can keep in your driveway (in some areas work-related vehicles are not allowed to be parked overnight if they are visible from the street).


Plus it is pretty obvious the article was a way for the person to plug her book.

Posted - 2009.11.19 03:24:00 - [12]

 

Originally by: Khemul Zula

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What's so stupid about it?

There is actually logic behind associations/cities banning closelines. Most neighborhoods that ban them will not complain if you do it in an enclosed backyard. They just don't like it being visible from the street. Keep in mind that the association/city is very much concerned with how the neighborhood looks to potential buyers.

It is no stranger alteast then rules limiting what color you can paint your house. Or what plants/trees you are allowed to plant. Or what type of vehicles you can keep in your driveway (in some areas work-related vehicles are not allowed to be parked overnight if they are visible from the street).


Plus it is pretty obvious the article was a way for the person to plug her book.

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that is plain ******ed, anyone can put the clothes where they want because is their property and that thing that u call "logic" is just bull**** made in hope to sell a house on dream lookalike place at a over inflated price

Posted - 2009.11.19 04:00:00 - [14]

 

Edited by: Khemul Zula on 19/11/2009 03:59:54

Originally by: ceaon

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Originally by: Khemul Zula

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What's so stupid about it?

There is actually logic behind associations/cities banning closelines. Most neighborhoods that ban them will not complain if you do it in an enclosed backyard. They just don't like it being visible from the street. Keep in mind that the association/city is very much concerned with how the neighborhood looks to potential buyers.

It is no stranger alteast then rules limiting what color you can paint your house. Or what plants/trees you are allowed to plant. Or what type of vehicles you can keep in your driveway (in some areas work-related vehicles are not allowed to be parked overnight if they are visible from the street).


Plus it is pretty obvious the article was a way for the person to plug her book.

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that is plain ******ed, anyone can put the clothes where they want because is their property and that thing that u call "logic" is just bull**** made in hope to sell a house on dream lookalike place at a over inflated price

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No, they can't. The person must obey local rules/ordinances/laws (in the case of homeowner's associations, you agree to abide by their rules when you buy the property). As I said, there are a lot more restrictive rules in place then where you can put your closeline.

The people in the neighborhood request these rules (homeowner's associations are an exception here. they use it as a marketing tool, because they expect people will want it and it will help keep prices up). They are the ones who want the neighborhood to look nice. They are the ones who ask for these rules to be enforced.

People don't want to see laundry hanging in their neighbor's front yard. Hell, look at the picture. The women is hanging her laundry out by the street.

Posted - 2009.11.19 15:20:00 - [16]

 

Originally by: KPPA

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Imagine if someone walked up to Gorge Washington and told him he couldn't do something on his property...

property rights and individual rights are going out the door. it's all about protecting the "group" now.


laws like this prevent an emergent environment and we all know how awesome emergence is

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But wait! Isn't protecting the group socialism? Hmmm?

Posted - 2009.11.19 16:01:00 - [18]

 

Originally by: Xen Gin

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Originally by: KPPA

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Imagine if someone walked up to Gorge Washington and told him he couldn't do something on his property...

property rights and individual rights are going out the door. it's all about protecting the "group" now.


laws like this prevent an emergent environment and we all know how awesome emergence is

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But wait! Isn't protecting the group socialism? Hmmm?

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lol the lady in the article should call her association socialists and see if that clams them up or creates alot of media attention.

Posted - 2009.11.19 19:39:00 - [20]

 

Federal government of the United States

to

Fascist government of the United States?

Posted - 2009.11.20 02:37:00 - [22]

 

Originally by: Foodpimp

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Originally by: mettisitis sindicis

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Originally by: ceaon

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Originally by: Khemul Zula

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What's so stupid about it?

There is actually logic behind associations/cities banning closelines. Most neighborhoods that ban them will not complain if you do it in an enclosed backyard. They just don't like it being visible from the street. Keep in mind that the association/city is very much concerned with how the neighborhood looks to potential buyers.

It is no stranger alteast then rules limiting what color you can paint your house. Or what plants/trees you are allowed to plant. Or what type of vehicles you can keep in your driveway (in some areas work-related vehicles are not allowed to be parked overnight if they are visible from the street).


Plus it is pretty obvious the article was a way for the person to plug her book.

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that is plain ******ed, anyone can put the clothes where they want because is their property and that thing that u call "logic" is just bull**** made in hope to sell a house on dream lookalike place at a over inflated price

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You obviously are not a homeowner in a metropolitan area. Owning some property doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with it. Municipalities (local governments) can regulate how you use your property and fine you for not keeping it up to code. It's not quite the same out in the boondocks where the next house is a half a mile away.

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Yeap...the boondocks....where private property rights are still adhered to for the most part. I hate HOA's.

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It isn't so much adhered to as it is not really an issue. Everyone has more space, and isn't constantly looking into each other's yards as a result.

In a city you have three houses that can see your house from their front windows. Seven houses (counting the first three) that can see your house from their front yard. Up to a dozen that can see you from the end of their driveway. If you are on a canal (common here in Florida) you have your two neighbors plus the three houses behind you that can look right into your backyard (there are rules on fence heights and placement that make this unavoidable). A whole lot more will see it while driving to/from their home. If your yard isn't kept up it is a lot more likely that atleast one of these people is going to go complain to whoever they think can force you to keep up the appearance of your property.

All that said...HOA's do suck.
They do serve a purpose to begin with, but typically the only people interesting in running them are the types that will complain because your garbage can was left out for an extra 10 minutes after pickup came through.

Posted - 2009.11.21 03:19:00 - [24]

 

The fallacy of American Exceptionalism is that on the one hand we are constantly told we are free and that's why so many of us died in wars (for freedom, we are told) when we are not really free, and on the other hand, when dealing with the thousands of crap laws on four layers of government jurisdiction (at least) we act surprised. Therein lies the irony: so much sacrifice for freedom in a country that uses a printing press to supply enough cops, courts, and jails to have more laws on the books than any other society that ever existed, and that sacrifice is constantly used to keep telling us how great and free we are, nobody notices the police state with the flag flapping in their face.

If we accept that the only battle that truly mattered for the United States since the War of 1812 was the Battle of Midway, and all that other glory and honor was BS, and thus there not being so much blood sacrifice putting emotions in the way of fact (that we are not as free as we think), then we would see a case like this about drying clothes and not be surprised.

You see when you try to point out that there is a law for everything and we have more people in prison than the rest of the world, you get a torrent of "My <insert paternal role here> died fighting for your <insert unpopular civil liberty here> over in <insert some battle in some country here>. You are <insert some insult about being anti-American here>. I bet you are with <insert terrorist group title here>!!!!!"


A clothes line is a trivial matter. I have seen much much worse.