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Topic |
Jade Gunsmith
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.11.12 17:13:00 - [ 271]
This would be a great time for someone from Community to run around the office, find Nozh and tell him it might be a really good idea to clarify his post before it gets out of hand. |
Agmar
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.12 17:13:00 - [ 272]
10 pages and 1 GM/DEV answer.
btw, if you think this was Seleene's doing, you're dumber than the actual Dev that did. |
Mr Bright
Shade.
Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:14:00 - [ 273]
Hahahaha CCP gj gj... "CCP announces mothership buff - Tons of players buy motherships."
"CCP announces _HUGE_ Mothership nerf and ****'s over everyone that bought motherships."
Talk about a slap in the face. |
Seth Rock
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:15:00 - [ 274]
You've obviously never ****in played the game if you think this is a good change. I was actually excited about the changes but this is just stupid. Don't "fix" what wasn't broke and was going to be a good change for motherships.
I detect a goon/pl/it/-a-/all of eve threadnaught inbound. You should REALLY consult with people who have actually played the game before you go and make retarted changes like this. |
The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:16:00 - [ 275]
ccp it's not funny, you deleted my previous post? lmao
anyway, im not gonna quit my 4 acc's, no point in doing that because I LOVE THIS GAME but honestly, you screwing up TOO MUTCH.
you want constructive feedback? ways to improve?
ROLL THIS CRAP BACK
there. you cant have better feedback than this.
now, fire this moron who came up with this... now!!
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mtoneill
Republic University
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Posted - 2009.11.12 17:17:00 - [ 276]
 Originally by: CCP Navigator
Hello everyone,
Please also note that Community do not make game design decisions
Thank you.
Too funny. I think ultimately the community makes all the decisions? Isn't that what customers do? |
Agmar
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.11.12 17:18:00 - [ 277]
Originally by: mtoneill
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Hello everyone,
Please also note that Community do not make game design decisions
Thank you.
Too funny. I think ultimately the community makes all the decisions? Isn't that what customers do?
He's talking about Stevie and himself. Don't blame the CCP Community people. Blame Nozh. He wants to kill Smurfs. |
Lialem |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:19:00 - [ 278]
You can ****ing assign fighter bombers to your ceptors, with almost no risk to lose the mothership, why you whine???????
Can you assign a dread??????????? |
SolarKnight
Gallente
ORIGIN SYSTEMS
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Posted - 2009.11.12 17:21:00 - [ 279]
You can assign fighters, not bombers unless that has changed. |
1Of9
Gallente
The Circle
White Noise. |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:22:00 - [ 280]
CCP here's some feedback:
FIRE THIS GUY WHO CAME UP WITH THIS
also
ROLLBACK
do this 2 simple steps, problem fixed.
costumers happy again
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Knocturnal
Grass Muddy Horse
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Posted - 2009.11.12 17:22:00 - [ 281]
Originally by: Lialem
You can ****ing assign fighter bombers to your ceptors, with almost no risk to lose the mothership, why you whine???????
Can you assign a dread???????????
Carriers can do this aswell.. why get a SC then... Just to sit with it at a post? |
Lord Helghast |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:23:00 - [ 282]
i love the fact they say "but you can assign with the carrier/sc" ya, but u can also smart bomb the damn fighters and leave the sc as a 15b ISK hunk of metal, i mean really this seems odd, to equate less than a dread you have to drop all its highs for dcu's and leave 0 for anything else? Wow this supercarriers sounding less super and more like the old MOM, and the cost reduction is really a b*tch slap to all those people that listened and watched the capital discussions with the devs and all the talk and watch on ccp that did drop ~15b on a SC because they were meant to be very nice and useful and worth the cost, only to have CCP decide to backpedal their usefulness to a ship we'll probably never see in usage and drop the cost so that those that did buy based on what was known are now screwed out of billions in isk |
Pedron Niaal
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:23:00 - [ 283]
I can only support my preposters, there are not enough ships in this game yet, so why not create one for your "new capital killer ship".
Motherships are the biggest ships before you fly a Titan, so its quite the last step to "Endgame". Now you reduce their value to nearly nothing in the case of long-term training and long-term Asset acquiring.
Before players decide to go for a certain ship it needs lots of time, so people who started half a year ago to train for it, to know it will be worth it are now paying in ISK and training time.
The changes you had on SISI were quite interesting and in combination with Titan Changes improving the game, even if lots of people have to adapt. This way now, its totally changing a ships role, which was called "Mothership". Now it is not a "Supercarrier", its just a larger dread which is mobile (as you still need some time to kill the enemy capital you wont move for 10 minutes either, which is a siege cycle).
Maybe rethink what you have planned for an addon before you change another thing completely - see sov changes etc. |
Manfred Sideous
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:23:00 - [ 284]
CCP I cannot stress enough how much you are messing up with Dominion. I am pleading as someone that loves this game and would like to stay in it for years to come to re-think these decisions. Please push back the release of Dominion for more testing and more thought. I am seriously contemplating why I should continue to play this game any longer. It would be fair to say that I am not the only one. I am trying to keep my cool and be constructive but this is really testing my limits. I wish CCP was a publicly traded company because I would organize the players to create a fund to buy enough market shares to oust the people that are ruining this game. Perhaps I am left with canceling my subscriptions and just move onto to a new MMO and hope ill have better luck there.
I promise you you will regret that you are inept at listening to your customers. Ball is in your court CCP your in a game of chicken with your subscriber base once the gaming community deems Eve as terrible its all over. Im not swerving so ball is in your court. |
Kel Arkir
Biotronics Inc.
Majesta Empire |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:24:00 - [ 285]
Building my mothership now feels like a massive waste of time. And I cannot even refine it anymore  I seriously hope someone just ****ed up there and that this is not intentional. Why even bother flying anything else but a frickin dread that is as much fun and skill as using a toaster  |
Mr Bright
Shade.
Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:25:00 - [ 286]
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Jessica Maresh
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:25:00 - [ 287]
To the nubcakes who are saying "WHY YOU WHINE ETC ETC???" why dont you be quiet, and perharps understand why ms pilots are ****ed about this. Its because of the time and investment currently needed to get one, Not only has it taken years of training isk gathering etc. So you see, This is basically CCP saying: "Ok we listen to the bears who cry and the supercap wannabes and nerf it" CCP, why do you need to change motherships? seriously, Not only do you nerf the titan (yes it is a nerf, you wanna get rid of blobs or not?) now you nerf motherships (no im not calling it a supercarrier). Im sure you have your reasons, just please, consider OTHER options rather than reducing the amount of fighters, there are alot of good ideas here. Dont shun them out. /me rant over. ahhh that felt better  |
Cuisinar
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:25:00 - [ 288]
stupid ccp!! stupid
cancel this changes before it's too late.
you dont really have a clue how hard is it to build this ships do you? not everyone have acess to moongoo to pay for them, some people actually have to WORK hard to get one, to be stuck in the damn coffin, since they cant put it somewhere completly safe, cant dock, cant do crap and now cant even use it because *loool* drone units *loool*
get real!! |
Saimedai |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:26:00 - [ 289]
You guys are seriously bad at public relations. Might want to work on that.
See... Constructive. |
Knocturnal
Grass Muddy Horse
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Posted - 2009.11.12 17:27:00 - [ 290]
Originally by: Pedron Niaal
I can only support my preposters, there are not enough ships in this game yet, so why not create one for your "new capital killer ship".
Motherships are the biggest ships before you fly a Titan, so its quite the last step to "Endgame". Now you reduce their value to nearly nothing in the case of long-term training and long-term Asset acquiring.
Before players decide to go for a certain ship it needs lots of time, so people who started half a year ago to train for it, to know it will be worth it are now paying in ISK and training time.
The changes you had on SISI were quite interesting and in combination with Titan Changes improving the game, even if lots of people have to adapt. This way now, its totally changing a ships role, which was called "Mothership". Now it is not a "Supercarrier", its just a larger dread which is mobile (as you still need some time to kill the enemy capital you wont move for 10 minutes either, which is a siege cycle).
Maybe rethink what you have planned for an addon before you change another thing completely - see sov changes etc.
Seems like nothing of this matters to ccp ... as long as they can rip of the $$ of people they do ever ******ed thing they can think off with this game. |
Sarah Norbulk
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative. |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:28:00 - [ 291]
Nozh's excuse for the nerf was they wanted a ship to kill MOVING capitals. I sense a slight flaw with idea as during a capital fight...get this...NO ONE IS ****ING MOVING. If you actually played your game you would realize that the role you're trying to fill doesn't exist. |
Starxplorer
Gallente |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:28:00 - [ 292]
CCP this is a alt.
i got this char to fly my mothership and i been doing so for ALLMOST 2 years.
problem is, i BARELY play at all because this ship is useless as it is today.
what you want to do is simply forcing me to SELF DESTRUCT before dominion because no way in hell im going to keep paying a account TO BE OFFLINE because some stupid ass dev came up with a brain emorage.
remove this changes!!!! |
nianra |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:31:00 - [ 293]
I don't fly capitals, i cannot fly them :) but anyways.
I do believe that Titans are now much less useful as they are not even able to kill stupid people, they will have only a few kills in their entire existence and those kills will most likely not be as expensive as the titan itself in the first place. It could've happened if Motherships (Let's all protest against that "Supercapital" name) would acutally be used against titans. Wich is obviously not going to be the case.
btw: while reading this post it increased by one page :p
anyways i wonder what will happen if the patch gets delayed, i am sure alot of alliances planned an invasion in December :p |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:31:00 - [ 294]
Originally by: Soi Mala
Originally by: Minmatar citizen4561451
do you want a refund on your battleships when the trit prices plummet too? things change. CCP isng going to "refund" people who spent the old price on the ship. At the time you bought your ship, you pid what it was worth in that market. Now you're upset because someone is going to be able to buy the same ship for less. Boy I hope you dont go to your supermarket and cry that you were 2 weeks late to the sales week...
Nice troll, but a little applied logic makes you look very silly indeed.
You see, trit prices fluctuate due to supply and demand, it is sold for what the player believes is a fair price for his mining efforts, and ties in with the player driven sandbox environment. This change however has nothing to do with the sandbox, nothing to do with the players... It is simply CCP doing something, for some reason which no-one can quite figure out.
I seem to remember CCP unplugging snake implants from peoples heads in the nano nerf, because the nature of the changes directly affected their usefullness. It's not entirely unreasonable to expect the same this time around. I'd wager that there are far fewer supercap pilots to reimburse now, than there were snake pilots back then.
except the prices fluctuated because ccp directly boosted the spwan rate of veldspar. and OH GOD what has ccp done, almost everyone agreeing with mittens. (or perhaps even more surprising, mittens seriously posting) if anything keep super carriers as initially proposed, and wait for whine threads about them being over powered. if anything think of poor chribba, he will only be able to use 10 mining drones   |
Buxaroo
Gallente
The Army of The Ori
IMPERIAL LEGI0N |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:31:00 - [ 295]
Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 12/11/2009 15:34:36
And THIS dear friends is why a man with a spreadsheet should not be given a job to 'balance' something only the most experienced players in the game fly.
Nozh If you are SO confident that your decision is right, give us the option to reprocess them into components at our nearest empire hangar as part of the startup for Dominion and let us decide for ourselves.
Myn
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I want my ****ing 2 months of game play back from grinding to get the mothership after going on test server making me decide that the ship was ACTUALLY worth flying. I want to dock BEFORE patch day and reprocess the piece of **** ship. Or, I want to be able to DOCK and INSURE the piece of **** ship and SELF DESTRUCT it so I can at least get my isk back that I just wasted for nothing. See, I came to this game after SOE anal ****d Star Wars Galaxies with the NGE and I posted on the forums that if they didn't change the game to where it was I would quit and never look back. And I did. Well right now I am in the same position as I was then. Once I make a decision, I don't look back. Never. Either give us mothership pilots, and ESPECIALLY those who bought one AFTER the initial test server buff, a way to get our isk back. There is NO excuse to massively **** us in the ass like this. I have been the biggest CCP fanboy sense I came to this game. But that has all changed with this **** up you call Dominion. |
The Kan
Gallente
The Circle
SOLAR WING |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:31:00 - [ 296]
CCP 1 more thing:
if you keep this changes, mark my words: I WILL SELF DESTRUCT.
i do not want to keep paying a account to be OFFLINE all the time, day and night.
i simply refuse to do that anymore. |
Lialem |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:36:00 - [ 297]
Quote:
Carriers can do this aswell.. why get a SC then... Just to sit with it at a post?
Carriers cant fit fighter bobmers!!!! lol |
Mr Bright
Shade.
Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:36:00 - [ 298]
this is swg all over :( |
Kel Arkir
Biotronics Inc.
Majesta Empire |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:38:00 - [ 299]
Funny sidenote, in an all out escape situation, the survivability due to no 20 heavy ECM drones at disposal is even lower than it is *now* even with the HP boost.
Hell, for a long time I thought Fighterbombers are not assignable so Motherships are actually forced to engage in battle and you know, maybe loose it.........
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nilie
Destructive Influence |
Posted - 2009.11.12 17:39:00 - [ 300]
Originally by: The Kan
CCP 1 more thing:
if you keep this changes, mark my words: I WILL SELF DESTRUCT.
i do not want to keep paying a account to be OFFLINE all the time, day and night.
i simply refuse to do that anymore.
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