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Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.10.31 15:29:00 - [151]
 

Edited by: Blane Xero on 31/10/2009 15:31:35
Oh and guys - They're aware of the false positives.

Oh and this Gem regarding Transformers?

Check the name of the GM in the thread.

Arch Law
State War Academy
Posted - 2009.10.31 15:47:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: ceaon
there is a new trailer
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/438/videoId/1550



Well there's another thing EVE doesn't do: the turret beam graphics actually show misses.

Zeredek
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2009.10.31 15:56:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: Arch Law
Originally by: ceaon
there is a new trailer
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/438/videoId/1550



Well there's another thing EVE doesn't do: the turret beam graphics actually show misses.

Shocked
*claps*

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.10.31 16:04:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Arch Law
Originally by: ceaon
there is a new trailer
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/setView/videos/gameID/438/videoId/1550



Well there's another thing EVE doesn't do: the turret beam graphics actually show misses.
Yes, because in eve you aim manually don't you?. Christ i hope you realise the flaw in your logic soon.

weazlor
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2009.10.31 17:14:00 - [155]
 

Wonder if they'll do an "Air 654" spinoff for consoles?

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.10.31 17:15:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: weazlor
Wonder if they'll do an "Air 654" spinoff for consoles?
Took me a minute, but I lolled.

JonnyRandom
Posted - 2009.10.31 20:06:00 - [157]
 

Well we all seem to love the idea that someone has actually decided to clone Eve instead of something else for a change, but we also hate them at the same time.

Now to heck with all the lawyers and angry cease and desist letters. I say CCP needs to hire the kids that are making this game, trash the current DUST514, and make a new one based on mechs.
Now THAT I'd be willing to play.

Dannerkongen
Posted - 2009.10.31 20:26:00 - [158]
 

pretty!

new black prop screenie

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.10.31 20:38:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: Dannerkongen
pretty!

new black prop screenie
Thats actually pretty crappy. The textures are blurry and boring.

Dionisius
Gallente
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.10.31 22:28:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Edited by: Blane Xero on 31/10/2009 15:39:53
Edited by: Blane Xero on 31/10/2009 15:38:42
Originally by: Dionisius
Hmm judging by the responses in here we can safely assume that most of the eve players are ripoffs of one another... or you haven't played any other mmo out there.

To say that WoW has clones when there were mmo's pior to WoW with concepts that WoW took in.. or better riped off from other games stories and concepts... lol

Just because EvE has mining and capacitors and cpu usage tracking and this kind of details does it mean that Perpetuum is a clone? Perhaps if you looked at Mechwarrior were tracking speeds, angles of fire, etc etc.. oh wait ripoff! Perpetuum is a ripoff of Mechawarrior.. oh wait that makes EvE a ripoff... oh wait.. Rolling Eyes

You people are really.. ugh.

Kudos to this guys for bringing something to the market, it isn't exactly new and revolutionary but damn better than what the majority has present the gaming comunities with.


We;re not talking about the statistics (Though if you look at it, almost everything is the same in the fitting screen stat wise). "HIghslots, lowslots midslots" the Layout of the UI, minus the sidebar now being a topbar in Perpetuum, The market UI, Hangar UIs... The Chat... The showinfo window...

Linkie

also note the placeholders for the "Slots". Eight of Each...


They copied the interface, and some of the features of EvE, well patiente, most of the MMO genre copied from several game interfaces like from Diablo for instance.

Seriously i don't see anything wrong with this game.

Trustworthy Joe
Minmatar
Posted - 2009.11.01 02:41:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Dannerkongen
pretty!

new black prop screenie


why are you still here?

go play your game that your spamming in a thread completely unrelated to it.

oh, im sorry, i didnt realize that it doesnt exist yet.

JonnyRandom
Posted - 2009.11.01 22:17:00 - [162]
 

Someone needs to head over to their forums and start stirring up the hornets nest with accusations of copying from Eve Twisted Evil

ceaon
Posted - 2009.11.01 22:39:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: JonnyRandom
Someone needs to head over to their forums and start stirring up the hornets nest with accusations of copying from Eve Twisted Evil

you cant beta account is needed

JonnyRandom
Posted - 2009.11.01 22:50:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: JonnyRandom
Someone needs to head over to their forums and start stirring up the hornets nest with accusations of copying from Eve Twisted Evil

you cant beta account is needed


What, nobody that had claimed to have signed up have gotten a beta key yet?

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.11.01 22:59:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: JonnyRandom
Originally by: ceaon
Originally by: JonnyRandom
Someone needs to head over to their forums and start stirring up the hornets nest with accusations of copying from Eve Twisted Evil

you cant beta account is needed


What, nobody that had claimed to have signed up have gotten a beta key yet?
Apparently about 1500+ signed up for the closed beta all of a sudden and since its at the end of the closed beta anyways they said the open beta is up next. Still waiting on the setup client to test clean on that site chribba linked before I try to install it again. Don't fancy doing another wipe and reinstall. Razz

BlackMariner
Caldari
Posted - 2009.11.01 23:19:00 - [166]
 

Edited by: BlackMariner on 02/11/2009 00:04:30
Edited by: BlackMariner on 01/11/2009 23:29:28
Well this looks kinda neat. Not sure how well it will do as one thing CCP has always done is upgrade upgrade upgrade.

Well see...

On another note if they ripped this off from CCP their country wont stand for it....

Quote:
21. Private property: 4.0

Private property is well protected by the Hungarian Constitution and a number of laws that have been made to secure one`s property. In Hungary, only a lawyer can write a contract of sale and it has to be signed in front of a lawyer or a public notary. It also has to be authenticated by a public notary. Material as well as intellectual property rights can easily be protected.

The Hungarian Constitution does not make comment on the power of copyright, but Hungary has signed all the international treaties for protection of intellectual properties and copyrights, and by this has adopted the international copyright laws. This shows that even though Hungary doesn`t have copyright laws in its constitution, it excepts and respects the idea of intellectual copyright.



Oh but then you read this lol http://torrentfreak.com/hungary-shuts-down-bitorrent-sites-071112/

More things to read: http://www.state.gov/e/eeb/rls/othr/ics/2009/117440.htm

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.11.02 00:27:00 - [167]
 

How long do you think this game will last if goons decide to kill it like they tried to do to EVE?

JonnyRandom
Posted - 2009.11.02 00:44:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Taedrin
How long do you think this game will last if goons decide to kill it like they tried to do to EVE?


Tried to do? Rolling Eyes

ceaon
Posted - 2009.11.02 01:38:00 - [169]
 

ppl really have a problem whit concepts geez
this ppl can use words like nyx erebus etc etc

the only problem they can have is if they use CCP code rest is bull****

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2009.11.02 04:36:00 - [170]
 

Originally by: JonnyRandom
Well we all seem to love the idea that someone has actually decided to clone Eve instead of something else for a change, but we also hate them at the same time.

Now to heck with all the lawyers and angry cease and desist letters. I say CCP needs to hire the kids that are making this game, trash the current DUST514, and make a new one based on mechs.
Now THAT I'd be willing to play.


Or leave Dust and implement the Mechs on the uninhabitable planets!

RedClaws
Amarr
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.11.02 10:20:00 - [171]
 

Sounds fishy... 90% of that forum is the same guy.


Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
Posted - 2009.11.02 11:25:00 - [172]
 

So, no-one noticed the "PANIC" button on the UI yet? Laughing

Nefrin Maldoes
Minmatar
Outer Rim Survey and Salvage
Posted - 2009.11.02 11:51:00 - [173]
 

Edited by: Nefrin Maldoes on 02/11/2009 11:53:11
Hmmmmm, I got my Registration Approval in my email over the weekend, but I'm still iffy about downloading the file

Originally by: Perpetuum Registration Approval

Dear Player,

We are glad to inform you that your application for the Perpetuum closed beta testing has been accepted. Welcome aboard!

Please visit our website, download the game, and create a character. After this you will be able to log into the game and use the community features of the website. Your login for the website is your e-mail address and password.

Please log into the wbsite and browse through the forums for instructions. You will find lots of valuable information specifically posted for beta testers.

We wish you happy testing and lost of fun

Best regards,

The Perpetuum Team



The Bold/Italic/Underline is not a typo, it actually reads that way in the email.

The thing that bugs me is that apparently, there is no account name, it's linked directly to my email address. Perhaps this is just a beta thing, but don't think I've ever had a game that didn't create a specific user name for the account (I beta'd for Fallen Earth, and still had to create a user name).

Anyone else gotten "approval" and gotten into the game, or still waiting for the files to test clean on virus scan?

Edit:
Originally by: RedClaws
Sounds fishy... 90% of that forum is the same guy.


Yeah, I was thinking that myself.

The only reason I don't flat out call it a scam is due to the sheer amount of work that has been done if it false. Videos, Screenshots, working website, etc. Of course, still wouldn't put it past the Goons . . .

Nefrin Maldoes
Minmatar
Outer Rim Survey and Salvage
Posted - 2009.11.02 12:11:00 - [174]
 

Edited by: Nefrin Maldoes on 02/11/2009 12:11:39
Update:

Attempted to log into the Perpetuum website, got this message:

Quote:

Dear Player,

To be able to use the website community features, you have to first create an in-game character. To do this, please download the client here, install it, and log in with your e-mail address and password!

UNTIL YOU HAVE CREATED AN IN-GAME CHARACTER, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE MOST WEBSITE FEATURES!

If you have any problems installing the game or creating a character, please contact us at support@perpetuum-online.com!

Best regards,

The Perpetuum Team



I sense a disturbance in the force . . .

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.11.02 21:21:00 - [175]
 

Originally by: Nefrin Maldoes
Edited by: Nefrin Maldoes on 02/11/2009 12:11:39
Update:

Attempted to log into the Perpetuum website, got this message:

Quote:

Dear Player,

To be able to use the website community features, you have to first create an in-game character. To do this, please download the client here, install it, and log in with your e-mail address and password!

UNTIL YOU HAVE CREATED AN IN-GAME CHARACTER, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE MOST WEBSITE FEATURES!

If you have any problems installing the game or creating a character, please contact us at support@perpetuum-online.com!

Best regards,

The Perpetuum Team



I sense a disturbance in the force . . .
Well to be fair you have to make a character in eve before you can use the forums past browsing and ccp messes up the spelling on all sorts of emails and ingame descriptions. Must be something about english not being a primary language for non english speaking developers. Wink But yeah I'm waiting on the files to test clean before I take up the offer as I got my pass for the beta over the weekend too.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.11.02 21:32:00 - [176]
 

Originally by: Blane Xero
Oh and guys - They're aware of the false positives.


Ok looks like this game is legit after all as they added to that post with an update. I also retested the same install file I had originally downloaded to make sure they just didn't clean it up and reseed then say it never had any viruses.

https://www.virustotal.com/analisis/3b0f2a51f5fd8961858f96f4fc8564fb9d60ff8f2ede872de698c3edfa3605a6-1257196978

It still gets one odd hit with McAfee+Artemis but it looks like a false one so off to log in I go to see if the eve influance goes past the ui. ugh

chadwill
Gallente
Goldtooth of stellar enterprices
Posted - 2009.11.02 23:49:00 - [177]
 

Just got this:

Dear Player,

we are glad to inform you that your application for the Perpetuum closed beta testing has been accepted. Welcome aboard!
..

Anyone tried it yet?

I havent dared to download the install file yet :P

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.11.03 00:27:00 - [178]
 

Edited by: Zeba on 03/11/2009 00:29:23
I'm in right now and just as I suspected its reaaaaaaly basic atm. No real gameplay past killing drones to sell loot to npc buy orders so you can get stuff. Mining is an option but the only way to get nic(isk) to buy the stuff you need is to go out on the killing fields and kill rogue robots. Production is in the game though so if you do manage to get enough nic to get started mining you can do something with the ore. Devs are pretty cool to talk to in chat and seem a bit overwhelmed though at the sudden influx of testers. Wink

Now when we egged them on to talk about some future content they said missions are being worked on now with a basic set coming soon(tm). Also a 'sov/infrastructure' system for the non noob conquerable territorys is being think tanked that based off what was mentioned in the chat is remarkably similar to what is coming in Dominion but they already know that it seems as they compare things to eve a lot when people ask certain questions. So yeah they know they are cherry picking eve and other games for the future game mechanics of perpetuum but they don't seem to care.

Peryner
University of Caille
Posted - 2009.11.03 06:09:00 - [179]
 

Ok so here is what I've got so far.

there are 4 weapon types.

Cannons- weak dmg, low range, miss a lot (hi sig radius) no cap use.
Magnetic guns?- medium damage, long range, slower tracking
Lasers- Medium damage, medium range, fast tracking
Missles-Good? damage, medium range, no cap?

So it seems like at the moment missles are over powered :P

Now a dev stated that in this game cannons are not meant as a main weapon for any ship, they are an add-on gun that takes little grid and cpu, and is considered weak. but it's good for big tanks, and that little extra damage.

There are two types of tanking.

Armor tanking- same as in eve
Shield tanking- Every hit you take instead of hitting your armor hp instead hits your cap. So you lose energy instead of taking damage. This leaks and has limits and such if I understand correctly, actually seems pretty interesting!

Movement is pretty slow, they should get some transforming action into the game :P

Now what else I know is all skills go up to level 10. You gain sp over time and then spend it where you wish. No need to buy skill books on the market, they are always available for purchase even while not into station, they are just in your skills list as unlearned skills. it stats the price in isk and the sp needed, and you just learn it. heh, ccp that's a good idea.

There are no learning skills they put that into the character creator.

attributes seem to determine the cost of skills.

The movement type is wasd, the firing however is NOT manual. Youn target and fire like in eve, but then you have to manualy pilot to keep the transversal down while staying in range. It's actully a lot of fun to try to go the same speed as the drones so you can land every hit.

BPOs and BPCs are shown as separate objects. This is apparently done by not letting you build with BPOs. The BPOs can be loaded to always give out more and more BPCs or they can be researched. Every players gets his own factory and lab to do jobs in. None of that stupid high sec build**** of having to wait for other players. Once player made stations are put in they will have better factories up to 40-50% better. they have skills to increase the number of personal factory slots. all in all pretty cool, myabe eve should follow this example. ?

I got the name buckrogers suckers :P I hope to see more good old scifi names to follow. daniel jackson?

Oh one last thing, when you miss, you miss graphically. Seriously ccp? you can't do this yet but this 12 man team can? seriously?

-mothermoon

Grim Vandal
Burn Proof
Posted - 2009.11.03 08:16:00 - [180]
 

Has it a LOS system. Line of sight ...

eg can you mitigate damage if things are between you and your enemy shooting you?

at last hows the lag so far?


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