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Lashnar
Caldari
LEGEND OF THE SHADOW GUARD
Posted - 2009.10.13 22:54:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Lashnar on 14/10/2009 12:55:48
Edited by: Lashnar on 13/10/2009 22:56:10
And along with that I lost my ship, and my weapon and my ammo. I accepted a courier contract. Its colatteral took all my ISK. I didn't know it would lead into low sec. But I thought I could make it through. It was only two jumps.. Well, I didn't. I got gate camped. I lost 5 mil. And my indy ship. Fortunately I didn't get destroyed in my pod. But still, to a new player like me. What I just lost was alot. And I was saving up for those strip miners for my coveter.

So, now, I want to know, what would be the quickest way to earn ISK? Safely! I can't afford any more losses. Something like mining in HI-sec.

What should I do?

Gokyo Ri
Posted - 2009.10.13 22:56:00 - [2]
 

start again.

That's Eve

Good luck

Lunewraith
Amarr
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.10.13 22:57:00 - [3]
 

Get into a player corp. Train salvaging. Ask corpies if you can help loot/salvage missions for a cut of the proceeds. Profit.

Xyla Kador
Posted - 2009.10.13 22:58:00 - [4]
 

i say get a merlin or kestrel and run lvl 1s

rinse and repeat till lvl 2s

and so on till lvl 3s

...and lvl 4s

ull be rolling in ISK in no time :P

imo thats the easiest/simplest way to do it other than mining but with mining u start slow and even maxed out with a hulk ur income is a bit limited

WhiteSavage
Gallente
Ever Flow
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:00:00 - [5]
 

Courier contracts are pretty much all fail.

How much did you actually lose?

Lashnar
Caldari
LEGEND OF THE SHADOW GUARD
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:00:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Lashnar on 13/10/2009 23:01:39
Originally by: Xyla Kador
i say get a merlin or kestrel and run lvl 1s

rinse and repeat till lvl 2s

and so on till lvl 3s

...and lvl 4s

ull be rolling in ISK in no time :P

imo thats the easiest/simplest way to do it other than mining but with mining u start slow and even maxed out with a hulk ur income is a bit limited


Hmm, I've heard that suggested alot. Thing is. I have trouble running the harder level ones in a destroyer. I don't think I outfitted it right. I might try that though...Neutral

*Edit* I lost five million out of 5.6 million ISK.

Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:01:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Blane Xero on 13/10/2009 23:04:19
Pick yourself up. Play smart :)

And enjoy the surprise from Alex...

Also, find a group of active people to screw around with. Even if they're new players too, interaction is crucial to success.

Barakkus
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:02:00 - [8]
 

If you already have a covetor, just put some regular cheap mining lazers on it and mine some veld for a couple weeks, then get a missioning ship and go at it.

When I first started, on my first character I ended up at almost 0 a few times in the first month or so, it happens...don't worry about it too much, hell do some level 1s in your n00b ship...

Kaya Ironwood
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:17:00 - [9]
 

Heck, just rat high sec belts for a while. Eventually you'll get a decent meta 4 drop worth a couple 100k isk, which is a large amount to you at this time. You should plow through them in a destroyer.

ThaDollaGenerale
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:21:00 - [10]
 

Came expecting a whine thread, was pleasantly surprised.

Evemail me lashnar, I've got some crap floating around in highsec I can give you.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:23:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 13/10/2009 23:27:14

Ninjasalvaging.

Startup costs are extremely mild. You can salvage quite competently for around 1 mil ISK, and will earn you far more than anything else at this stage.

Read

Downside is that to make really good ISK you'll want to locate an Amarr/minmatar mission hub, which may be a few jumps away from your current location.
Quote:

Get into a player corp. Train salvaging. Ask corpies if you can help loot/salvage missions for a cut of the proceeds. Profit.

Unless they let you take pretty much all the proceeds you're better off just scanning stuff down and salvaging it.

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:37:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Zeba on 13/10/2009 23:39:22


The easiest way to make some isk is to run the n00bie epic mission arc. The salvage, loot and rewards will net you about 15~20 mil total so that should set you back to rights with a quickness. Plus if you really like to mine most of those missions have tons of roids to idle at and watch some shows or whoor the forums.

Sys Root
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:53:00 - [13]
 

Just sent you 6 mil, buy some strip miners for your Covetor, please don't resort to Ninjasalvaging, yes it's legal and well within the game's rules, but they **** people off and it's a parasitic tactic IMO.

/me dons flameshield

Lunewraith
Amarr
FinFleet
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.10.13 23:58:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Sys Root
Just sent you 6 mil, buy some strip miners for your Covetor, please don't resort to Ninjasalvaging, yes it's legal and well within the game's rules, but they **** people off and it's a parasitic tactic IMO.

/me dons flameshield


^^ this is the other reason to ninjasalvage. Good ISK, plenty of tears to fuel your awesome.

Lashnar
Caldari
LEGEND OF THE SHADOW GUARD
Posted - 2009.10.14 00:00:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 13/10/2009 23:39:22


The easiest way to make some isk is to run the n00bie epic mission arc. The salvage, loot and rewards will net you about 15~20 mil total so that should set you back to rights with a quickness. Plus if you really like to mine most of those missions have tons of roids to idle at and watch some shows or whoor the forums.


By n00bie mission Arch do you mean he one in Arnon? I'm tempted to do that. I think I'll try that actually.

Also, thank you everyone for you advice and generosity. But Donations, are not necessary. You may give them if you so desire. But I didn't request them. But none the less. They are appreciated!

Sys Root
Posted - 2009.10.14 00:00:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Sys Root on 14/10/2009 00:01:12
Originally by: Lunewraith
^^ this is the other reason to ninjasalvage. Good ISK, plenty of tears to fuel your awesome.

There are plenty of ways to make good isk in this game, whether or not you do it honorably is your choice.

AdmiralJohn
Gallente
Origin of Sanshaa
Posted - 2009.10.14 00:04:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Sys Root
...whether or not you do it honorably is your choice.


Hey hey now, let's not open a whole can of worms here.


Multipurpose Cleaner
Posted - 2009.10.14 00:06:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Sys Root
Edited by: Sys Root on 14/10/2009 00:01:12
Originally by: Lunewraith
^^ this is the other reason to ninjasalvage. Good ISK, plenty of tears to fuel your awesome.

There are plenty of ways to make good isk in this game, whether or not you do it honorably is your choice.


Hurr hurr hurr 'honourably' hurhurhurhur

I don't think slaughtering thousands and thousands of NPCs in a ship where they have no chance of breaking your tank is honourable, but I digress

JordanParey
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2009.10.14 00:06:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Lashnar
Edited by: Lashnar on 13/10/2009 22:56:10
And along with that I lost my ship, and my weapon and my ammo. I accepted a courier contract. Its colatteral took all my ISK. I didn't know it would lead into low sec. But I thought I could make it through. It was only two jumps.. Well, I didn't. I got gate camped. I lost 5 mil. And my indy ship. Fortunately I didn't get destroyed in my pod. But still, to a new player like me. What I just lost was alot. And I was saving up for those strip miners for my coveter.

So, now, I want to know, what would be the quickest way to earn ISK? Safely! I can't afford any more losses. Something like mining in HI-sec.

Also, I'm tempted to join a new mining and shipping corp. I hate to leave the one my friend and I started but he hasn't been on for an month... *Edit* Oh, if someone does want my to join their shipping corp... They have to pay for a new indy ship, as well as a weapon and 2k ammo.

What should I do?


You're welcome to apply to my corp. We'll show you the ropes. We have a few people who can build frigates, a couple PVPers, etc.

Waci
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2009.10.14 00:56:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Waci on 14/10/2009 00:56:00
Join suddenly ninjas.
Get some isk.
Google agony unleashed.
Look for something called "PVP-BASICS".
And you might not get killed the next time you peek into low sec.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.14 01:02:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Kahega Amielden on 14/10/2009 01:03:50
Quote:
You're welcome to apply to my corp. We'll show you the ropes. We have a few people who can build frigates, a couple PVPers, etc.


recruitment forums are that way ->

Quote:
Just sent you 6 mil, buy some strip miners for your Covetor, please don't resort to Ninjasalvaging, yes it's legal and well within the game's rules, but they **** people off and it's a parasitic tactic IMO.


OP: it's only parasitic if you hold the arrogant, over-entitled view that wrecks belong to the missionrunner. I encourage you to use those 6 million to buy some gravity capacitor rigs and maybe some faction probes for your scanship if you end up ninjaing.

Lanais Suleia
Posted - 2009.10.14 01:31:00 - [22]
 

If it's this easy to get free stuff from you suckers I might have to create a begging alt too. Rolling Eyes

Brolly
Caldari
5ER3NITY INC
Posted - 2009.10.14 01:48:00 - [23]
 

Ninjasalvaging can get you good isk, fail that, shoot rats in minny/amarr space and salvage

5 mil is peanuts these days, you'll be up and running in no time.

Mining is pretty poor if you are new tbh, you'd be better off grabbing your guns and learning how to salvage. an armor plate (salvaged material, mostly found in amarr space) can net you an easy 230K and alloyed tritanium bars (found in minmatar space) are going for 200K. After this you still have mods to reprocess/sell.

Fail that, there are always missions.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.10.14 01:54:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Lanais Suleia
If it's this easy to get free stuff from you suckers I might have to create a begging alt too. Rolling Eyes


1) OP wasn't begging. Never asked for any ISK or stuff. He just wanted some advice.
2) OP was not rude, did not lose his composure and came to the forums calmly.
3) OP admitted that he was a new player and has a lot to learn.

Many of us want players like this to STAY in EVE, so we decide to help him on his way, especially since all he needs is a few strip miners to get back on his feet.

@OP - courier contracts in low sec can be very lucrative, but only if you know what you are doing. I personally use a blockade runner, as they can slip through most gate camps so long as you use your covert ops cloak properly (and fit nanofibers instead of expanded cargoholds.

As for recovering - salvaging missions has historically been *THE* best way to make money for a new player. I don't know if this is still true after the introduction of small and medium sized rigs (which caused the demand for salvage materials to plummet since they use FAR fewer resources to build than the old one size fits all rigs).

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2009.10.14 01:54:00 - [25]
 

Get into a good corporation, ask and listen to what they say and nubbin mistakes like this can be easily avoided.

Elisean
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2009.10.14 02:01:00 - [26]
 

factional warfare missions I hear give out 30 mil an hour with a rifter?

something sick like that. there is some trick to it. somthign to dow ith the fact you lose nothing for deninign missions, so and pick them by choice.

Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2009.10.14 02:01:00 - [27]
 

Quote:
@OP - courier contracts in low sec can be very lucrative, but only if you know what you are doing. I personally use a blockade runner, as they can slip through most gate camps so long as you use your covert ops cloak properly (and fit nanofibers instead of expanded cargoholds.


For lowsec nanos are entirely unnecessary if you're in a BR.

Vincenzo Delloro
Amarr
Lux et Veritas
Posted - 2009.10.14 02:29:00 - [28]
 

I spent most of my ISK on women and booze. The rest I just wasted.

SupaKudoRio
Posted - 2009.10.14 02:34:00 - [29]
 

Quit whining, you still have 600k left. That's more than enough to buy and fit a mining frigate.

Taedrin
Gallente
Kushan Industrial
Posted - 2009.10.14 02:39:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Taedrin on 14/10/2009 02:40:49
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
Quote:
@OP - courier contracts in low sec can be very lucrative, but only if you know what you are doing. I personally use a blockade runner, as they can slip through most gate camps so long as you use your covert ops cloak properly (and fit nanofibers instead of expanded cargoholds.


For lowsec nanos are entirely unnecessary if you're in a BR.


They make you align faster. Less time spent aligning means you get the courier done faster (I also use the warp speed rigs or the same reason instead of cargo rigs). Also, they can help you get away from station camps, since you can not cloak on the undock ramp, and they can easily buy enough time for a target lock by bumping you.

EDIT:
Though, it is extremely unlikely that you would encounter a situation where nanofibers would be NEEDED in low sec. I still use them though for the extra speed and in case I need to go to 0.0


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