Posted - 2009.09.23 13:42:00 - [32]

 

Edited by: BiggestT on 23/09/2009 13:42:01

Originally by: Brolly

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Edited by: Brolly on 23/09/2009 13:16:05
I really can't see why the idea of evolution would be so hard to accept, such a strange and warped world we live in

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I know, people take the N.I.V. Bible way too literally.
It's not evolution or religion, you can accept be both, sadly most people think this is weak, I myself find it perfectly logical.

(Awaits impending "A-gang" flames)

Posted - 2009.09.23 13:54:00 - [34]

 

Edited by: BiggestT on 23/09/2009 13:53:44

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer

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Oh and for everybody one person who thinks that the earth is only 6000 years old, there is also one, equally zealous and mindless, who thinks that climate change was caused by carbon (an element in EVERYTHING).

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Oh dear...

Hint: LRN2SCIENCE

that is all.

Posted - 2009.09.23 16:23:00 - [36]

 

Originally by: BiggestT

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Edited by: BiggestT on 23/09/2009 13:53:44

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer

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Oh and for everybody one person who thinks that the earth is only 6000 years old, there is also one, equally zealous and mindless, who thinks that climate change was caused by carbon (an element in EVERYTHING).

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Oh dear...

Hint: LRN2SCIENCE

that is all.

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Dihydrogen Monoxide contains no carbon... therefore carbon being an element in EVERYTHING (not sure why that part is yelled) is false

Posted - 2009.09.23 16:40:00 - [38]

 

It's funny that a movie like this which doesn't dissuade people from being religious gets "banned". On the flip side the movie Religulous blatantly states that religion is stupid and believing in god is stupid.

No accounting for taste I guess.

Posted - 2009.09.23 16:57:00 - [40]

 

Basically what Reeth said.

Originally by: The Article

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A British film about Charles Darwin has failed to find a US distributor because his theory of evolution is too controversial for American audiences, according to its producer.

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Riiiiiight, and if I myself started a thread stating my own reasons why Europe's socialist system is horrendously flawed everyone and their mom is going to tell me how Im just an ignorant, illiterate, obese, redneck, gun-totting racist American (did I miss anything?) Because you Europeans whether you like it or not are just as much so, if not more narrowminded than the 'villainous' Religious Fanatics that are apparently running America

Originally by: The Article

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Movieguide.org, an influential site which reviews films from a Christian perspective, described Darwin as the father of eugenics and denounced him as "a racist, a bigot and an 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder". His "half-baked theory" directly influenced Adolf ****** and led to "atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and genetic engineering", the site stated.

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First of all, lol at the first bolded. Influential? I've never heard of the damn website and I can gurantee no-one I know has either. Also, I'm not sure how it works in Europe, but most people, contrary to your popular belief, don't go on the internet to find a review on every movie they go to see, it ruins the whole movie experience.

At the second bolded, you have it right there, it reviews films from a CHRISTIAN perspective, uh, duh it's obviously going to have a biased view on it, funny how the article only uses THAT site and not other review sites to reinforce it's argument, they actively sought out a review site that was obviously going to be biased. The result would be the same if I went around London with a poll asking people what they think when they hear "America". You can reasonably assume that it's going to be either A.) George W. Bush ; B.) Some kind of Random Obesity Statistic ; C.) Guns

Originally by: The Article

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Jeremy Thomas, the Oscar-winning producer of Creation, said he was astonished that such attitudes exist 150 years after On The Origin of Species was published.

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Right Because the entire planet should simply just bend over and accept Darwin's little book as if it were the word of god

Originally by: The Article

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"The film has no distributor in America. It has got a deal everywhere else in the world but in the US, and it's because of what the film is about. People have been saying this is the best film they've seen all year, yet nobody in the US has picked it up.

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So just because everyone else approves of the movie, the US should just automatically pick up on it? How about this, when England allows it's citizens to own handguns again, we over here in America will give your little Drama movie a shot

Originally by: The Article

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"It is unbelievable to us that this is still a really hot potato in America. There's still a great belief that He made the world in six days. It's quite difficult for we in the UK to imagine religion in America. We live in a country which is no longer so religious. But in the US, outside of New York and LA, religion rules.

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For the first bolded, prove it wrong.
For the second bolded, yeah, relgion also rules practically the entire Middle East and many Muslim countries in Africa, it's our way of doing things, who are you to tell us were wrong? Just like the world tells America were wrong for trying to impose democracy in the Middle East because it's our way of doing things and not theirs, you are trying to impose your (non)religious views upon us, just like we are trying to impose our form of government in Iraq.

Except. . . . you don't have a gun to force us

Posted - 2009.09.23 17:09:00 - [42]

 

Originally by: BiggestT

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Originally by: ReaperOfSly

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Well it's certainly an element in every living thing on Earth.

But no, nobody sensible has ever claimed that carbon causes global warming. Carbon dioxide, yes, but not carbon. And even that pales in comparison to the greenhouse gas horror that is cow farts.

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It is not "cow farts" It is also "cow burps" due to the (technically commensal) microorganisms in their chambered stomachs. Regardless, the main input of this methane (the CARBON based greenhouse gas much more effective at retaining heat than CO2) into the atmosphere is not from livestock, but from rice paddies (theres aloooota rice paddies in eastern Asia).


And last I checked, Bi-CARBONATE ions are one of the most important ions in the ocean regarding ocean acidification from an increase in g-house gas emisisons.


And where excactly do you think CARBON monoxide comes from? Yes, your car (last I checked, it didn't have a heartbeat, its inanimate!), after it combusts the fossil fuels that enter the engine.


And no, carbon iteslef does not cause global warming. Carbon based greenhouse gases do (as well as nitrogen based ones etc). And where excactly do these gases come from? Ahh the carbon cycle, composed of carbon fluxes and carbon sinks (hint: carbon sinks are you, me and every other living thing on the planet, as well as coastal rock, fossil fuels, soil etc etc).

So yes, while the carbon cycle is included in living things, living things are only a (somewhat small) sink for the carbon cycle.

/end rant

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I don't disagree on anything, I was just pedantic that elemental carbon does not cause global warming.

Posted - 2009.09.23 21:40:00 - [44]

 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly

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Well it's certainly an element in every living thing on Earth.

But no, nobody sensible has ever claimed that carbon causes global warming. Carbon dioxide, yes, but not carbon. And even that pales in comparison to the greenhouse gas horror that is cow farts.

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The more potent offender is what some would call swamp farts

Yes, swamps are the most obscene offender of methane release.

Originally by: Mr Reeth

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I don't think he was responding to your comment as much as using it for an excuse to teach us all a little something about environmental science. It's a common occurrence with highly educated people. Their heads are so full of book learnin' that if they don't periodically let some of it out... their heads blow up. I think teaching is the only way my Politics in the Media Professor can stay alive.

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Well played


Slade

Posted - 2009.09.23 21:56:00 - [46]

 

Well, what did you expect? America is just a country of rejects from Europe. Even Australia, a country of deported criminals, has (marginally) more sense.

Posted - 2009.09.24 02:27:00 - [48]

 

Originally by: jason hill

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mwhahahaa in a yet another jago flame fest thread !

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Yes yes, we seen you, alright... you can shut up now. Seriously, be quiet chap, you're making the squares nervous.

Incidentally, it was never my intention to start a flame fest; I just found the article intriguing and thought that others amongst the EVE community might too.

Posted - 2009.09.24 02:47:00 - [50]

 

Originally by: Intense Thinker

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Originally by: Janice Jankowski

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Is the 55% of americans know that the sun is a star factoid still correct?

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Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

cba... we don't even know what's down here or where

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Wheres Österreich?

Posted - 2009.09.24 09:17:00 - [52]

 

Originally by: Canis Sarcina

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I really have no idea what kind of Christians apprently live in this country. Sometimes I feel its an elaborate ruse made up to get everyone who isn't Christian to think that all Christians are psycos. Then again, some people actually thought there were WMDs in iraq and some people actually thought(think) Obama's healthcare is a good idea. So...I know not to doubt anything anymore.

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Yea. How dare he try to get the right of healthcare for all in a country that stands for freedom of speach!