Posted - 2009.09.14 12:19:00 - [3]

 

oooh, brt.

Posted - 2009.09.14 12:47:00 - [5]

 

Moral victory goes To Brawn, the man himself. Success follows where he goes and NOT the (previous) teams who get to claim his victories.

Posted - 2009.09.14 15:38:00 - [7]

 

Dont know whether it was the best race for ages but its turning out to be the best season for ages.
Rubens or Jenson for the title? hmmmmmm.
I'd love to see Jenson win it but knowing that, in all likelyhood, Rubens will be dropped by Brawn after this season means i'm starting to hope Rubens win it. Its not anything Rubens has done wrong and its not a choice Ross Brawn would like to make but, with an Abu-Dabi investment firm coming in at the end of this season favouring Rosberg as part of their investment package, Rubens will find himself without a drive. If he wins the title he could either retire or take any drive offered by another team. If he doesnt win he might find it impossibly hard to find another drive as hes 37.
Brawn has to survive as a team and that means money. Unfortunately that means whomever invests has some clout in deciding the drivers. Thats the nature of the beast im afraid.
Ross Brawn is a good team leader and a very good man manager but he knows the reality of F1 and all that that entails. He took 2 out of work drivers, gave them a chance to outshine their rivals in a good car. They paid him back with their winning ways. Now Brawn has to look to the future for the team and all his current investers.

Posted - 2009.09.16 13:05:00 - [9]

 

Flavio Briatore has left his position as boss of the Renault team after they decided not to contest charges of fixing the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix.

Executive director of engineering Pat Symonds has also left the team.

Renault were summoned by governing body, the FIA, after Nelson Piquet Jr claimed he had been asked to crash to help team-mate Fernando Alonso's race.

An FIA spokesperson confirmed a World Motor Sport Council hearing in Paris on Monday would go ahead.

Renault have been called to answer charges that they "conspired with Nelson Piquet Jr to cause a deliberate crash at the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix with the aim of causing the deployment of the safety car to the advantage of its other driver, Fernando Alonso".

The hearing will attempt to attribute responsibility for the Singapore "crash-gate" despite the news that Briatore and Symonds have left Renault.

The FIA could still impose sanctions if Renault are found guilty, including excluding the team from the championship, although that must be considered unlikely given the two people Piquet said were responsible have now left the team.
Flavio Briatore
Briatore has lost his job over the Singapore race-fix charge

Piquet crashed in Singapore two laps after Alonso had come in for a routine pit stop.

That meant that when race officials sent out the safety car to clear up the debris from Piquet's car, Alonso was alone among the front-runners in not having to stop for fuel and tyres.

Renault's double world champion went on to take the chequered flag at Formula 1's inaugural night race and claim his first victory in two years.

At the time, Piquet attributed the crash to a simple error, but after being dropped by the team after July's Hungary GP the race-fixing allegations emerged.

The Brazilian has since testified to the FIA that he was instructed by Briatore and Symonds when and where to crash.

606: DEBATE
I can only think that Renault will want to get out of F1 now to save their reputation which would be a terrible shame,

Renault's response was to accuse the 24-year-old and his father Nelson Piquet of false allegations and blackmail, going as far as saying they would begin legal action against them.

But on Wednesday the team in a statement they would "not dispute the recent allegations made by the FIA concerning the 2008 Singapore Grand Prix."

The statement added: "The team also wishes to state that its managing director, Flavio Briatore and its executive director of engineering, Pat Symonds, have left the team."

BBC pundit and former team boss Eddie Jordan said he was surprised by Renault's announcement but believes it was effectively an admission of guilt.

"By suggesting they are not going to contest the allegations is in itself an admission," Jordan told the BBC.

"That's how I see it. Legally, there may be another argument. I think this is a clear-cut admission and I am surprised.

Posted - 2009.09.16 22:39:00 - [11]

 

Can;t believe they would get their driver to "crash", piquet was quiet capable at crashing on his own!

Posted - 2009.09.17 13:05:00 - [13]

 

I was kinda shocked to hear they've effectively admitted it to be honest.

Next season will be interesting for sure, but it'd be a shame to see Renault withdraw over this.

Posted - 2009.09.18 09:50:00 - [15]

 

Originally by: Logi3

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yea, looking forward to seeing 28 cars on grid next seasno, although some circuits dont have enough pit space? :P

Also rumours are they want Button out of Brawn due to his high wage demand + Merc want a german driver there as part of there deal buying a 40% stake in Brawn

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Never happen, they will drop rubens as he is in the twilight of his career....however if they do drop him, expect him in a renault to replace alonso.

Posted - 2009.09.18 12:43:00 - [17]

 

Originally by: Eomar

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Originally by: Nigel Sheldon

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"crash-gate"

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grrrrrrrrr

any journalist, reporter or writer who adds "-gate" to something 'scandalous'
should be taken out and shot.


along with thier editors, proof readers, family, friends and neighbours.



on a 1-10 scale of things that annoy me that rates about a 15.

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rant-gate the eve online scandal

Posted - 2009.09.18 19:35:00 - [19]

 

f1 is an amusing joke circus

http://www.wimp.com/carchase/

Posted - 2009.09.21 16:27:00 - [21]

 

disgaree that they got off lightly, they got a suspended two year ban for crying out loud, and also remember that they held their own investigation and got rid of britore and simmonds so that weighed HEAVILY in their favour, they condoned all actions taking by those two.
HOWEVER I think Piquet got off lightly, as Martin brundle britains f1 commentor said piquet is a man, he is capable of making his own decisions...but he won't get a F1 drive again thats for sure, who would employ me, slow and a grass lol.
Sadly this year has been troubled with off the track problems, but for racing it's been one hellva year!

Posted - 2009.09.24 11:39:00 - [23]

 

Edited by: Losmandy on 24/09/2009 11:47:00
When Looking back at the McLaren fiasco who were fined $100,000000, Renault got off lightly. As they are major engine supplier to several teams, was in their favour when judgement was given, no surprises there.

Confirming FIA is corrupt to the core.

Rumour has it that Piquet's father (Nelson Piquet) was the one who informed the FIA about his sons stupidity and shameful shenanigans.

Posted - 2009.09.26 13:28:00 - [25]

 

Edited by: Mya Didas on 26/09/2009 13:31:49
Renault cant push anything for 2 years so they have close to no chance of winning anything
lifetime ban fo flav i think is alittle harsh and the fact he was the only person not offered immunity speaks volumes imo
kudos to pat s for taking it on the chin and not taking the immunity i think it shows that hes telling the truth n it was pk who came up with the idea

and if pk ever gets another drive in f1 ill be surprised and disappointed hes **** and a cheat and a **** cheat