Posted - 2009.09.09 00:50:00 - [31]

 

Originally by: Gnulpie

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1. Respect for stepping back! This is no small step considering all the work invested.


2. CCP - going public with this and revealing as much as possible is a really good step. Well done!


3. Finally, losing a CMS seat over just a few billion isk is really, arg, so stuuuuupid! I mean, if it were hundreds of billions, okay, maybe understandable. But not even ten bil? *groan* I think I will never understand such behaviour, it is completely unrational. Considering what you lose and what you could gain....

All in all, this is pretty well dealt with and all the open statements are very good!

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Definitely, I'm pretty impressed with the open way this was dealt with and reported on. Ordinarily players have a privacy privilege extended to them when they're banned but in the case of CSMs or CCP employees I've always thought it very important to be open and transparent about it. I like the way this was handled, and it serves as a reminder that CCP takes its confidentiality agreements and internal affairs very seriously.

By the way, Gnulpie, he didn't just lose his seat on the CSM. The devblog mentions that since he broke an NDA he signed, they also banned his EVE accounts. That's got to hurt D:.

Posted - 2009.09.09 01:03:00 - [33]

 

Originally by: Zastrow J

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Other than this event, on what facts are you basing a claim that the CSM is useless, i'm pretty curious

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The entire concept is useless, players telling ccp ideas and concerns, doesn't that sound like the forums?

Posted - 2009.09.09 01:08:00 - [35]

 

Quote:

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Finally, losing a CMS seat over just a few billion isk is really, arg, so stuuuuupid! I mean, if it were hundreds of billions, okay, maybe understandable. But not even ten bil? *groan* I think I will never understand such behaviour, it is completely unrational. Considering what you lose and what you could gain....

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2.5 (actually 5b, he spent that much on two different characters) does not sound like a lot. However, what if they decided to rebalance the R64s and make the other minerals more valuable? Neodymium, for example, could increase in price to a mere 10% of Promethium's current value as a result of theoretical changes and a 5b investment would yield a hefty profit.

Posted - 2009.09.09 01:12:00 - [37]

 

Originally by: Ma Eies

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Originally by: Zastrow J

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Other than this event, on what facts are you basing a claim that the CSM is useless, i'm pretty curious

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The entire concept is useless, players telling ccp ideas and concerns, doesn't that sound like the forums?

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Think of the CSM as a distillery for ideas. Players on the forums have in the past contributed some great ideas that were eventually implemented. But if CCP wanted to trawl the forums and in-game avenues for ideas today, they'd need to have one or two full time employees just to collect the best ideas and write them up as proposals. With the CSM, players have a way to present ideas, discuss them among each other and develop proposals. The CSMs then act as a filtering mechanism to decide which ideas are important or promising enough to bring to the devs. So for the cost of a few flights to Iceland and a few forums, CCP will ideally get all of the best ideas from the forums and in-game as well as vital feedback from players on what they like and don't like.

Posted - 2009.09.09 01:28:00 - [39]

 

Good job, would vote for Larkonis Again.

Posted - 2009.09.09 02:04:00 - [41]

 

lol... just lol..

Posted - 2009.09.09 02:11:00 - [43]

 

Edited by: Wotcher Renyolds on 09/09/2009 02:18:34

Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab

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Originally by: Wotcher Renyolds

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why not just tell people what it was, it's not like people didn't already figure it out and clear jita out of the moongold at issue

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Him keeping his mouth shut is probably one of the conditions for not getting perma-banned. ;)

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i meant ccp, the cat is out of the bag

edit for the slow: look at raw moon minerals

Posted - 2009.09.09 02:57:00 - [45]

 

So uhm, wow!

I am definitely committed to the idea of the CSM and will gladly serve the remainder of the term, however, not if me assuming Lark's term would preclude me from serving as a full CSM should I be elected again.

Should I finish this term I would have missed the most important part of the CSM opportunities. I would not have been able to bring any of the issues I felt were important to the table before the CSM/CCP Iceland meeting and I would NOT have been in Iceland to meet the devs to discuss the important issues facing the Eve community.

I am hoping that CCP will announce that I will still be eligible to seek reelection to the CSM for an additional term as finishing Lark's term is more administrative then productive. I certainly can't be sure to be elected again but I want to know the option is still available to me.

Also CCP, emailing me so I could learn about this before you put it in a dev blog might have been nice!

Issler

P.S. CCP, if you can find a way to supply me with some nonni's lamb subs in a reasonably fresh form we could open negotionations... :-)

Posted - 2009.09.09 03:22:00 - [47]

 

Now, lets take a moment and reflect on the great e-honor that Lark and his fellow Neo Spartans have..

Oh wai..

Posted - 2009.09.09 04:05:00 - [49]

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Next year im voting for Cat \o/

Posted - 2009.09.09 05:42:00 - [51]

 

Thought it was a goon, left disappointed.

Posted - 2009.09.09 06:31:00 - [53]

 

+1 respect for the Internal Affairs team.

Posted - 2009.09.09 06:47:00 - [55]

 

CCP, thank you for the transparancy, good to know your internal affairs are working as intended.

Posted - 2009.09.09 07:06:00 - [57]

 

Great job on internal audit and the communication!

Should this be classified as Larkonis's dead hooker or live boy political scandal, or neither and he will be back?

Posted - 2009.09.09 08:11:00 - [59]

 

Stupid move by Lark, but apparently a swift move by internal, and a transparent and appropriate response. It was bound to happen at one point but the way this was handled is a positive for the CSM rather than something against it. No system is ever perfect, but apparently this one is working as it should.