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HMSBlueprint
Two Maidens One Chalice
Posted - 2009.09.02 12:03:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: HMSBlueprint on 02/09/2009 12:10:32
Okay, right ive been in a small argument with my alliance mates for a while, just how many ships does it take to destroy a Dreadnought (Phoenix, Moros) etc, what ship classes? and how long does it take to destroy one?

also.. is it possible to pirate one?

Thanks

- HMS

Jovoich
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2009.09.02 12:16:00 - [2]
 

A solo cruiser could do it, given enough time if said dread wasn't fitted.

To gank a dread on a station after hes taken agro, before his timer (not sieged) is up. I believe you need about 8-10 dreads

Jason Marshall
Gallente
Mad Bombers
Guns and Alcohol
Posted - 2009.09.02 12:20:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Jovoich
A solo cruiser could do it, given enough time if said dread wasn't fitted.

To gank a dread on a station after hes taken agro, before his timer (not sieged) is up. I believe you need about 8-10 dreads


This was some time ago, not to long after RMR launched.

I forgot the pirate corp who pulled it off, but its been done with 30 or so battleships. 10-15 NOS domis + 10 blasterthrons wouldnt take very long at all.

Jovoich
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2009.09.02 12:23:00 - [4]
 

wtf u on about? anyone can gank a dread on station, its nothing special.

HMSBlueprint
Two Maidens One Chalice
Posted - 2009.09.02 12:28:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Jovoich
A solo cruiser could do it, given enough time if said dread wasn't fitted.

To gank a dread on a station after hes taken agro, before his timer (not sieged) is up. I believe you need about 8-10 dreads


lol ah right, you arent killing a siege dreadnought with 2 battleships then :P thanks

Jovoich
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2009.09.02 12:31:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Jovoich on 02/09/2009 12:32:42
Well my dread tanks about 6k perma and 23k for 5min, so no. 2 BSs arn't going to do **** to a sieged dread. tbh thou, it'd be a bit f.ecked up if 200m worth of ships could pop a 1.7b ISK dread.

f.ecked is censored ?! wtf :P

EYEDOLL
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.02 12:35:00 - [7]
 

Well I guess in theory it would work with 2 battleships. Neut the crap out of him with domis and you'll get him down eventually. Siege or no siege.

lolzrelgions
Posted - 2009.09.02 14:32:00 - [8]
 

Strategy is really dependent on which dread you are up against and what it is trying to do. If you are trying to take a dread out of commission a couple of neuts will shut off a revelation's guns(or he says **** it and loses tank). Alternatively a phoenix/nag will keep firing to the end due to their guns not using cap. This is if you are looking to take them out of the picture and not fully make one explode.

Nathan Harrow
Caldari
NibbleTek
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.09.02 14:44:00 - [9]
 

neuts are your friend - if its sieged it cant do jack shiet if it has no cap - its a sitting duck for 10 minutes. Especially if said dread only has One Repper...

Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE
Free Worlds Alliance
Posted - 2009.09.02 14:45:00 - [10]
 

I know of a recent encounter where 30 ships mostly battleships popped 7 dreads and a carrier

soldieroffortune 258
Gallente
Tribal Liberation Force
Posted - 2009.09.02 15:43:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Jovoich
Edited by: Jovoich on 02/09/2009 12:32:42
Well my dread tanks about 6k perma and 23k for 5min, so no. 2 BSs arn't going to do **** to a sieged dread. tbh thou, it'd be a bit f.ecked up if 200m worth of ships could pop a 1.7b ISK dread.

f.ecked is censored ?! wtf :P



Sorry to dissapoint you, but isk value doesnt have much to do with what ship can pop which in this game. I'd rather this be possible than more isk=more survivability/make up for sheer stupidity, as everyone in this game is not an ebayer and chronic isk buyer.

Jovoich
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2009.09.02 15:48:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
edit]Edited by:
Sorry to dissapoint you, but isk value doesnt have much to do with what ship can pop which in this game. I'd rather this be possible than more isk=more survivability/make up for sheer stupidity, as everyone in this game is not an ebayer and chronic isk buyer.


I'm more than aware of that, I like nothing better than killing **** in my frigates. But, there is a degree of ISK and survivability, in both the moduals and ships you buy.

lolzrelgions
Posted - 2009.09.03 01:43:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Jovoich
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
edit]Edited by:
Sorry to dissapoint you, but isk value doesnt have much to do with what ship can pop which in this game. I'd rather this be possible than more isk=more survivability/make up for sheer stupidity, as everyone in this game is not an ebayer and chronic isk buyer.


I'm more than aware of that, I like nothing better than killing **** in my frigates. But, there is a degree of ISK and survivability, in both the moduals and ships you buy.


In the case of modules this is due to player demand being higher for the ones that give more survivability. Its more of an economics then game issue(although you could argue drop rate...)

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.09.03 01:48:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: lolzrelgions
Originally by: Jovoich
Originally by: soldieroffortune 258
edit]Edited by:
Sorry to dissapoint you, but isk value doesnt have much to do with what ship can pop which in this game. I'd rather this be possible than more isk=more survivability/make up for sheer stupidity, as everyone in this game is not an ebayer and chronic isk buyer.


I'm more than aware of that, I like nothing better than killing **** in my frigates. But, there is a degree of ISK and survivability, in both the moduals and ships you buy.


In the case of modules this is due to player demand being higher for the ones that give more survivability. Its more of an economics then game issue(although you could argue drop rate...)


Wait.. So the better stuff is more expensive because its better? CALL THE MEDIA! PEOPLE MUST KNOW!!!!!

Beachura
Exiled.
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2009.09.03 09:49:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Beachura on 03/09/2009 09:49:50
Originally by: Lana Torrin


Wait.. So the better stuff is more expensive because its better? CALL THE MEDIA! PEOPLE MUST KNOW!!!!!


i like you lana, but sometimes you are just obviously trolling :P

Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
Posted - 2009.09.03 10:12:00 - [16]
 

Its not low budget vs big budget. Its gank vs tank.

Lightningshade
Caldari
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2009.09.03 10:30:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: HMSBlueprint
Edited by: HMSBlueprint on 02/09/2009 12:10:32
Okay, right ive been in a small argument with my alliance mates for a while, just how many ships does it take to destroy a Dreadnought (Phoenix, Moros) etc, what ship classes? and how long does it take to destroy one?

also.. is it possible to pirate one?

Thanks

- HMS


arent you the idiot that lkes to spend his time reporting posts?

rubico1337
Caldari
Mnemonic Enterprises
Posted - 2009.09.03 10:43:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: rubico1337 on 03/09/2009 10:43:12
Originally by: Lightningshade
Originally by: HMSBlueprint
Edited by: HMSBlueprint on 02/09/2009 12:10:32
Okay, right ive been in a small argument with my alliance mates for a while, just how many ships does it take to destroy a Dreadnought (Phoenix, Moros) etc, what ship classes? and how long does it take to destroy one?

also.. is it possible to pirate one?

Thanks

- HMS


arent you the idiot that lkes to spend his time reporting posts?


reported

Lana Torrin
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2009.09.03 10:52:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Beachura
Edited by: Beachura on 03/09/2009 09:49:50
Originally by: Lana Torrin


Wait.. So the better stuff is more expensive because its better? CALL THE MEDIA! PEOPLE MUST KNOW!!!!!


i like you lana, but sometimes you are just obviously trolling :P

Wait.. so when i make an obvious sarcastic post im suddenly not funny?

Maximus Trollus
Amarr
The Village Idiots
Posted - 2009.09.03 11:05:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: HMSBlueprint


no, im not an idiot thankyou :)

your just anoyed because your the idiot who broke the rules and your post got locked :)

suckstobeu :)


WAAAAAH, TEHY BROKE MA RULZ **emoslitwristreport**

Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2009.09.03 11:09:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Beachura
Edited by: Beachura on 03/09/2009 09:49:50
Originally by: Lana Torrin


Wait.. So the better stuff is more expensive because its better? CALL THE MEDIA! PEOPLE MUST KNOW!!!!!


i like you lana, but sometimes you are just obviously trolling :P


italicised the wrong part

Muad' Dib
Gallente
PWNED FACTOR HOLDINGS
Posted - 2009.09.03 11:19:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 03/09/2009 11:20:54
Originally by: Jason Marshall
Originally by: Jovoich
A solo cruiser could do it, given enough time if said dread wasn't fitted.

To gank a dread on a station after hes taken agro, before his timer (not sieged) is up. I believe you need about 8-10 dreads


This was some time ago, not to long after RMR launched.

I forgot the pirate corp who pulled it off, but its been done with 30 or so battleships. 10-15 NOS domis + 10 blasterthrons wouldnt take very long at all.


Yes, and back then Caps used to have much much much much less EHP. They got boosted in between then and now by 400% on shields/armor/hull EHP.

It's a tricky question ... 10 dreads can pull it off but it depends what kind of dreads, how they are fitted and how is the target fitted - if he has lg slaves and trimarks ... you might not be able to do it even with 10 phoenix's with full damage mods and overloaded.

The only Dread in which you can solo pirate, is the Moros because it is the only one that does any kind of damage out of siege. Even then the pirating part will be sitting at undock of station for ppl stupid enough to agress you within webb range.

EYEDOLL
Amarr
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.09.03 12:21:00 - [23]
 

You can also bump said dread off the station easily in 10 minutes. Siege means he can't reapproach station until he's out of siege (this sucks especially if you get bumped during a cap fight Sad )

@ whoever posted the killmail link for the 1-rep-revelation: most (if not all) dreads fit only 1 repper.. its nothing special. The 4 heat sinks on the other hand.. Razz


 

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