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Topic |
Pyrhus Taavi |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:09:00 - [ 1]
I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
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Cypherous
Minmatar
Lions of Judah Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:12:00 - [ 2]
 Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
Its optional you don't have to do it, and go PS3 no subscription :P Its not something you'll have to do it'll just tie in to sov but from hilmar's details you'll be able to hire people to do it instead of doing it yourself :) |
Robert Hudson |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:13:00 - [ 3]
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
Oxygen deprivation at birth? I can't think of any others right now, sorry bro. |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:15:00 - [ 4]
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
First of all, it has neither been confirmed to be on the xbox nor PS3. It could be either, it could be both. And price hasn't been announced. In fact, it might be a free download like EVE with monthly charge. It might be a part of your current subscription even! |
Nur AlHuda
Amarr
Callide Vulpis |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:19:00 - [ 5]
It was confirmed that it will be on xbox and ps3. There is the news posted in some of these threads.
And achievemtns of those players will switch soveregnity of 0.0 alliances. |
Professor Tarantula
Hedion University |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:19:00 - [ 6]
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Ruby Khann |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:22:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Cypherous
you'll be able to hire people to do it instead of doing it yourself :)
I CAN FINALLY PUT THAT MIDDLE MANAGEMENT COURSE TO WORK **** YEAH |
Jeebus Cynoalt |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:23:00 - [ 8]
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Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:24:00 - [ 9]
Just so I'm clear, if CCP had made an FPS that wasn't tied to the EvE universe, you would actually be happier?
So you are actually mad about a feature.
And are you seriously trying to call an entirely different game an "expansion?"
Whine whine whine. |
Presidio
Minmatar
Phantom Squad |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:24:00 - [ 10]
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
Wow, tone down the sense of entitlement. It's a completely different game. |
Robert Hudson |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:26:00 - [ 11]
Edited by: Robert Hudson on 18/08/2009 20:28:20 Originally by: Professor Tarantula
Exclusive screenshot of DUST 514 on the xbox.
I would have gone with Wolfenstein 3D myself due to the heavy presence of Germans, but you nailed it.  |
Blane Xero
Amarr
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:27:00 - [ 12]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
Wow, tone down the sense of entitlement. It's a completely different game.
That is going to tie directly into an integral part (sovereignty) of eve. |
Ruby Khann |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:28:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Just so I'm clear, if CCP had made an FPS that wasn't tied to the EvE universe, you would actually be happier?
The issue is that it is tied to the EVE -GAME-, not just the EVE -universe-. Why should some bunnyhopping 12 year old get to determine how our game unfolds? Would it be fair if I could blow up mission running Ravens by playing Zelda? |
Pyrhus Taavi |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:30:00 - [ 14]
Originally by: Presidio
Wow, tone down the sense of entitlement. It's a completely different game.
If it's a completely different game, why is it going to directly impact the major mechanics of EVE's endgame? |
Jowen Datloran
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:32:00 - [ 15]
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:33:00 - [ 16]
Edited by: Messoroz on 18/08/2009 20:35:34Edited by: Messoroz on 18/08/2009 20:33:21 Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
I now have to pay for an Xbox, Xbox live subscription, and a $60 Halo clone to participate competitively in EVE's endgame.
Why are people excited about this bull****?
First of all, it has neither been confirmed to be on the xbox nor PS3. It could be either, it could be both.
And price hasn't been announced. In fact, it might be a free download like EVE with monthly charge. It might be a part of your current subscription even!
For the xbox, Microsoft will NEVER allow a game like Dust 514 to be free, and the updates will NEVER be free over microsoft's dead body, even great companies like Valve have tried and failed to get allowed to have more than one free update. |
Robert Hudson |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:34:00 - [ 17]
Actually, the most important question that arises about a 514 world hasn't been answered yet -
Due to this new "marriage", if you will, of internet spaceships and gun-slinging FPS action, a) what parts of the EVE universe will not be over-run by the Goons and b) how can I rent space from the Goons who will be living there?
/sarcasm off? |
Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:37:00 - [ 18]
Edited by: Emperor Cheney on 18/08/2009 20:38:09 Originally by: Ruby Khann
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Just so I'm clear, if CCP had made an FPS that wasn't tied to the EvE universe, you would actually be happier?
The issue is that it is tied to the EVE -GAME-, not just the EVE -universe-.
Why should some bunnyhopping 12 year old get to determine how our game unfolds? Would it be fair if I could blow up mission running Ravens by playing Zelda?
A bunnyhopping 12 year old in a different game taking sov makes a lot more sense to me than the current sov mechanics, and seems a lot more approachable. I could conceivably find 20 friends to take a planet. I could never get 4 friends with 5 alts each and give them 20 dreads, because I haven't spent the past several years collecting money from serfs and moons in the horrifically unbalanced and unfun 0,0 game. |
LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:43:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: Messoroz
For the xbox, Microsoft will NEVER allow a game like Dust 514 to be free, and the updates will NEVER be free over microsoft's dead body, even great companies like Valve have tried and failed to get allowed to have more than one free update.
Well, that WOULD explain why CCP is reluctant to announce it for both PS3 and Xbox. |
Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:45:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Ruby Khann
Originally by: Emperor Cheney
Just so I'm clear, if CCP had made an FPS that wasn't tied to the EvE universe, you would actually be happier?
The issue is that it is tied to the EVE -GAME-, not just the EVE -universe-.
Why should some bunnyhopping 12 year old get to determine how our game unfolds? Would it be fair if I could blow up mission running Ravens by playing Zelda?
And here I thought Eve players just had to have an inferiority complex about WoW. Guess we need to grow a Halo inferiority complex to go along with it too. Seriously, if Dust is designed worth a damn, the bunnyhopping 12 year olds will get pulverized by the hardcore dual-subscription, vented-up, FC-is-god 25 year olds. When have the FPStards ever been the ones who were any good at it? That's the thing about PvP games - idiots fall by the wayside. |
Hyperforce99
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.08.18 20:45:00 - [ 21]
To OP
As far as i'm aware, Xbox Live GOLD is NOT needed for console MMOs because Microsoft takes money out of the the subscription fees for said MMOs themselves.
Also,
Its a seperate game, simply because you can't fly your ship and be a dust marine on the same account. And thus it is not an expansion to EVE.
Much Like city of villains, and city of Heros are 2 sides of a whole. |
Nekopyat |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:46:00 - [ 22]
Originally by: Cypherous
Its optional you don't have to do it, and go PS3 no subscription :P
One of the details I am curious to hear.. for xbox will it require xbox live or will it be able to connect to the CCP servers directly? |
Pyrhus Taavi |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:51:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Seriously, if Dust is designed worth a damn, the bunnyhopping 12 year olds will get pulverized by the hardcore dual-subscription, vented-up, FC-is-god 25 year olds. When have the FPStards ever been the ones who were any good at it? That's the thing about PvP games - idiots fall by the wayside.
So just like I said, to be competitive you need to drop hundreds of dollars on a console, game, and subscription. WHY IS THAT A GOOD THING? |
Corozan Aspinall
Perkone |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:56:00 - [ 24]
If WiS is the pc version of Dust ie we cant fps but we can command etc in conjunction with the usual eve space fleet battles it will be epic.
I expect there will be a pc port of the fps eventually, but dont panic, ccp is already in bed with microsoft and co.
I also think CCP rightly predicts that the vast majority of eve players wont give two hoots about fps combat but will instead be creaming their pants over the command and logisitcal potential of WiS/Dust.
Being able to perform battlefield support roles and what have you would be awesome, but I can see a WiS that is primarily as planned, originally, just less vague and evidently aimed at being a top tier of Dust's more blood n guts actioneering.
I think, this is sincerely, the single most ambitious project ever created in persietant worlds. I'm really, truly, excited.
Bravo CCP!
I hope it works. I really do. |
bff Jill |
Posted - 2009.08.18 20:59:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
If WiS is the pc version of Dust ie we cant fps but we can command etc in conjunction with the usual eve space fleet battles it will be epic.
I expect there will be a pc port of the fps eventually, but dont panic, ccp is already in bed with microsoft and co.
I also think CCP rightly predicts that the vast majority of eve players wont give two hoots about fps combat but will instead be creaming their pants over the command and logisitcal potential of WiS/Dust.
Being able to perform battlefield support roles and what have you would be awesome, but I can see a WiS that is primarily as planned, originally, just less vague and evidently aimed at being a top tier of Dust's more blood n guts actioneering.
I think, this is sincerely, the single most ambitious project ever created in persietant worlds. I'm really, truly, excited.
Bravo CCP!
I hope it works. I really do.
There is already an mmo that combines ground combat and space combat, only you can fly directly between them because its all seamless. It did not do very well, but not because it was a bad idea. Once another mmo like that is created, with seamless space/ground transition and fights that take place simultaniously everywere. This whole eve + dust thing will just become pointless and outclassed entierly. CCP should have focused on what we currently have, and making it better. |
Emperor Cheney
Celebrity Sex Tape |
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:01:00 - [ 26]
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto
Seriously, if Dust is designed worth a damn, the bunnyhopping 12 year olds will get pulverized by the hardcore dual-subscription, vented-up, FC-is-god 25 year olds. When have the FPStards ever been the ones who were any good at it? That's the thing about PvP games - idiots fall by the wayside.
So just like I said, to be competitive you need to drop hundreds of dollars on a console, game, and subscription.
WHY IS THAT A GOOD THING?
That is a bargain compared to cap fleets, supercaps, alts, an intelligence network, and on and on and on. Plus, you don't even have to play yourself. The system seems to be designed with hiring mercenaries as the core feature. Hiring mercenaries, in my mind, just has to be cheaper and easier than what it takes to change sov currently, which makes taking and holding space a game played by a very few, very lonely/unemployed people and those who take their orders. How many real movers and shakers are there in 0,0 right now? 20? 30? Anything that opens up the game sounds great to me. Are you one of those few people who makes the decisions in a 0,0 alliance? If not, what is your problem? |
Lady Spank
Amarr
In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2009.08.18 21:06:00 - [ 27]
I eagerly await my console and subscription to complement my patch upgrade |
Saartje Sarel |
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:06:00 - [ 28]
Originally by: bff Jill
Originally by: Corozan Aspinall
If WiS is the pc version of Dust ie we cant fps but we can command etc in conjunction with the usual eve space fleet battles it will be epic.
I expect there will be a pc port of the fps eventually, but dont panic, ccp is already in bed with microsoft and co.
I also think CCP rightly predicts that the vast majority of eve players wont give two hoots about fps combat but will instead be creaming their pants over the command and logisitcal potential of WiS/Dust.
Being able to perform battlefield support roles and what have you would be awesome, but I can see a WiS that is primarily as planned, originally, just less vague and evidently aimed at being a top tier of Dust's more blood n guts actioneering.
I think, this is sincerely, the single most ambitious project ever created in persietant worlds. I'm really, truly, excited.
Bravo CCP!
I hope it works. I really do.
There is already an mmo that combines ground combat and space combat, only you can fly directly between them because its all seamless.
It did not do very well, but not because it was a bad idea.
Once another mmo like that is created, with seamless space/ground transition and fights that take place simultaniously everywere. This whole eve + dust thing will just become pointless and outclassed entierly.
CCP should have focused on what we currently have, and making it better.
The technology to do that is still years away, and unlike any other company, CCP is not driven entirely by the share holders demanding profit over art as we have seen year after year from eve. Its not perfect, but its not wow in space either. |
Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards |
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:06:00 - [ 29]
Bunny hopping was oh so 5 years ago, either you make yourself an idiotic target like in halo where you jump too high, or you now got staminized hopping basically your first leap is going to the strongest subsquenctual leaps are going to be smaller. And in most games hopping now slows you down quite a bit. |
Akor Flandres |
Posted - 2009.08.18 21:26:00 - [ 30]
The tears are so sweet. |
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