| Author |
Topic |
Ravenal
The Fated
E.Y |
Posted - 2009.08.04 03:01:00 - [ 1]
Edited by: Ravenal on 04/08/2009 15:34:36
Can we please have pilot death statistics grouped by the first letter in the pilots name?
Number: % of deaths
A: % of deaths
B: % of deaths
... and
Number: % of names
A: % of names
B: % of names
Edit: Group by ship types ... and if possible fleet size.
(in BS fleets of 50 and larger names beginning with A die % of times... Fleets determined by time and location of death)
Yes, this is a part of my campaign against the name column in the overview. It is a discriminatory game mechanic for pilots that are early in the alphabet. |
baltec1 |
Posted - 2009.08.04 03:05:00 - [ 2]
I manage to survive. |
Ravenal
The Fated
E.Y |
Posted - 2009.08.04 03:09:00 - [ 3]
 Originally by: baltec1
I manage to survive.
Yay for you. Care to share your lovely little secret? yes, I am being sarcastic... the voice of a single pilot means nothing in the data. The data speaks the truth. ... give us the data. |
Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings |
Posted - 2009.08.04 04:15:00 - [ 4]
I get called primary a lot. More to the fact that I'm the most wellknown member of my outfit and the CEO than the capital D. It may be wise but I'm shrewder still having previously outsourced all the FCing.  |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 04:23:00 - [ 5]
*cough*  |
fmercury
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2009.08.04 04:25:00 - [ 6]
Originally by: Ravenal
Originally by: baltec1
I manage to survive.
Yay for you. Care to share your lovely little secret?
yes, I am being sarcastic... the voice of a single pilot means nothing in the data. The data speaks the truth.
... give us the data.
Fly a drake. There's your secret. |
Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 04:26:00 - [ 7]
Originally by: Akita T
*cough*
Swine flu! *runs away* |
Hennry Fromer
Gallente
The Radiated Space Gerbils
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 05:00:00 - [ 8]
Originally by: Ravenal
Can we please have pilot death statistics grouped by the first letter in the pilots name?
Number: % of deaths
A: % of deaths
B: % of deaths
... and
Number: % of names
A: % of names
B: % of names
Yes, this is a part of my campaign against the name column in the overview. It is a discriminatory game mechanic for pilots that are early in the alphabet.
when Local get's nuked and isn't used for intel it wont matter. |
Kirra Liu
Serenity Rising.
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 05:02:00 - [ 9]
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Orion GUardian
Caldari |
Posted - 2009.08.04 08:47:00 - [ 10]
Op was talking about overview anyway. But I'd say...people with A/B etc are primaried more often (boarding he same ship) than M/N and Y/Z are bad off, too but not as bad as A/B |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 09:07:00 - [ 11]
Just change your name to Chiddychiddybangbang. A: % of FCs won't say it out loud to save face. B: % of FCs won't say in fear of fail. If you do decide to name a character Chiddychiddybangbang, please don't blame me and lpease send ISKual compensation |
Roemy Schneider
Vanishing Point. |
Posted - 2009.08.04 10:32:00 - [ 12]
when it comes to BS, tempest pilot here. primary BS right after the scorpions in ~80% of fleet fights, just because they die more easily for obvious reasons.
same with naglfar, still, i hear. |
Totally Hopeless |
Posted - 2009.08.04 12:00:00 - [ 13]
It's quite easy to determine your primaries... move the 'types' column to the left... and use THAT to determine what you shoot at first.
That Drake or Absolution is probably not your best opening gambit, but the Raven spewing torp hell at you might be... |
Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp |
Posted - 2009.08.04 14:38:00 - [ 14]
100% of dead people died.
|
Ravenal
The Fated
E.Y |
Posted - 2009.08.04 15:32:00 - [ 15]
There is some scaling involved here, your fleet and the opponents needs to be big enough for alphabetical ordering to be tactically more sound than going by ship types.
As for the dreads... they all go down about as easily as the next one if you have the numbers to shoot one down by force of numbers. Their EHPs are about the same. So there isn't much point in going by ship type when shooting dreads... Well, except if you are sniping you can just ignore Phoenixes. |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 15:46:00 - [ 16]
I've always wanted to make a character called "Secondary Primary" or "down repeat down" something just to see what happens on the enemy vent. "Primary target is Secondary Primary, Secondary target is down, repeat down". |
Nocturnal Avenger
Sebiestor Tribe |
Posted - 2009.08.04 15:55:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Ravenal
Yes, this is a part of my campaign against the name column in the overview. It is a discriminatory game mechanic for pilots that are early in the alphabet.
A-people should realized this and fit a silly tank og fly something hard to hit. Some people need to evolve instead of whining |
Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts. |
Posted - 2009.08.04 15:56:00 - [ 18]
Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 04/08/2009 15:56:32 Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Just change your name to Chiddychiddybangbang.
A: % of FCs won't say it out loud to save face.
B: % of FCs won't say in fear of fail.
most FCs aren't scared of saying names badly and spoken in ******ish. Even when flying under well spoken English FCs a lot of the time it's like taking targets from Sergeant Major Sixta. POLEESE THAT MOOSHTAASSHH Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Angel Lightbringer
Caldari
Nexus Shipyards |
Posted - 2009.08.04 16:02:00 - [ 19]
Edited by: Angel Lightbringer on 04/08/2009 16:05:43 Originally by: Spurty
100% of dead people died.
The stat that never lies!  Then, what Sheriff said. an alternative name: "IWearPinkUndies" sure win vs FC not wanting to say this one out loud Otherwise, wiill give you a small delay from laughters. /edit *looks at his own name*  hmm.. Mangel.. U shoulda call me MAngel... |
Arous Drephius |
Posted - 2009.08.04 16:16:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Nyphur
I've always wanted to make a character called "Secondary Primary" or "down repeat down" something just to see what happens on the enemy vent. "Primary target is Secondary Primary, Secondary target is down, repeat down".
IncomingTitanWarpOut. |
randomname4me |
Posted - 2009.08.04 16:23:00 - [ 21]
I was with an FC one time that ordered all the pilots with names starting with a - d to fly ether heavily tanked drone boats or very fast hard to track frigs since he knew our enemy's FC would just primary alphabetically. For the first 15 min of the fight we lost almost no DPS and killed all of there caps. |
Inbound Titan |
Posted - 2009.08.04 16:32:00 - [ 22]
What was that about hard to primary character names? |
Wacoede
Amarr
Swag Co.
Sandbox Bullies |
Posted - 2009.08.04 16:41:00 - [ 23]
Originally by: Angel Lightbringer
...Then, what Sheriff said. an alternative name: "IWearPinkUndies" sure win vs FC not wanting to say this one out loud Otherwise, wiill give you a small delay from laughters...
unless its a female FC then you get a long delay as all the males in the fleet go AFK |
Cors
It's A Trap
It's A Trap Alliance |
Posted - 2009.08.04 16:50:00 - [ 24]
I don't know about your corp/alliance, but the ones I'm part of primary certain ship types first. Not pilots.
|
Nyphur
Pillowsoft
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 17:25:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: Cors
I don't know about your corp/alliance, but the ones I'm part of primary certain ship types first. Not pilots.
So if there are three scorpions, your FC will just say "Primary scorpions" rather than picking one? |
Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts. |
Posted - 2009.08.04 18:11:00 - [ 26]
Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 04/08/2009 18:14:26 Originally by: Cors
I don't know about your corp/alliance, but the ones I'm part of primary certain ship types first. Not pilots.
Normally FC's in biiiig fights will pick out scorps or have a certain group soley look for scorps before setting the run of the mill BS alphabetically so that everybody has the same people on their overview. This way an FC can call out future targets, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and sometimes more without worrying about people scrolling up and down their overview desperately trying to find the targets in order. This way they know all of their damage dealers have their guns firing almost constantly. Also remember, they're shooting the people at the beginning of the alphabet, they're not mindlessly shooting them in that order they're just concentrating on the targets at the beginning/end and picking out which ones are more important. This of course isn't necessary in small gang fights where you can clearly see all of the ships on your overview, and find them quite easily when set to range, and not to alphabetical order. Also another name related thing that ****es me off is when FCs don't spell the first few letters of their target. example, "Phreak", i'm scrolling up and down the overview not shooting anybody because the FC is constantly calling his name but not mentioning that it's with a P and not an F. |
arjun
Viziam
|
Posted - 2009.08.04 18:16:00 - [ 27]
startin with a "a" and sitting in a scorpion made me primary target very often |
Ravenal
The Fated
E.Y |
Posted - 2009.08.04 19:07:00 - [ 28]
discriminating by ship types is fine. Thats good battle tactics. Discriminating players by their name is not.
Some say its not good battle tactic just to go by names, but once you hit a certain critical mass the ship types you call out don't really matter all that much
Anyway, for dreads for example... their EHPs arent that different on a "normal" day. Sure, if your name is A** you can buffer a few extra hundred HPs but thats gonna be what, 30 extra seconds survived.
So if those extra 30 seconds matter then someone picks up the hint and starts reverse alphabet primary calling to get past the extra buffer tanked A** guys... meaning you still have the same problem as before...
All in all the name in the overview is a broken game mechanic and should be removed. I know that currently it is the "only" method to call for targets on voice comms ... so to solve that problem make the broadcast system better.
Dedicated broadcast window for primaries, secondaries ... target calling in general
Dedicated broadcast window for logistics...
etc. |
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