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Beast pilot
Posted - 2009.08.02 09:21:00 - [211]
 

Exclamation

Cerys Magente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2009.08.02 09:28:00 - [212]
 

Supported

Mysthique
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 09:37:00 - [213]
 


Molovova
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 09:37:00 - [214]
 


QuarteDeLouis
Posted - 2009.08.02 09:38:00 - [215]
 

disable CUT & PASTE for GM answers
if petition is classified as bug - GM should forward it to bug team - not tell player to file a bug report

orange lotus
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 09:38:00 - [216]
 


Lizard Skin
Posted - 2009.08.02 09:42:00 - [217]
 


KaRa DaVuT
Gallente
The Scope

Posted - 2009.08.02 09:52:00 - [218]
 


Bibbleibble
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:17:00 - [219]
 


Illoua
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:19:00 - [220]
 

Supported

Shoog
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:23:00 - [221]
 

I am simply for fixing the "Our logs don't show anything" bull****.

If your logs are so unreliable. Invest in a new method.
Too many times i have petitioned legitimate losses or queries and all I get is "OUR LOGS DONT SHOW.. BLAH BLAH BLAH"
Not good enough.!!!!

ElrondMD
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:27:00 - [222]
 

A petition shouldn't be an exercise in having your intelligence insulted.

Carcinogenicity
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:33:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Lord EmBra
Edited by: Lord EmBra on 02/08/2009 03:52:13
Couldn't have said it better myself.
I stopped sending in petitions a long time ago. Doing it just feels so pointless because the GMs doesn't take them seriously anyway.


Another great one is when you petition a system that you know is going to have 1000+ people a few hours before downtime, and the GM response you get is "You need a director to use the application we cant help you". When you try to tell them theres no director on atm which is why your petitioning they just tell you tough ****. Or when they claim its reinforced and the node lags out at 500 people ugh

Bloody Nyo
Minmatar
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:48:00 - [224]
 


LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:50:00 - [225]
 

Vuk, I love ya man, but this could easily have been done better.

I see that you point out that the GM department ****s up a lot. You pull out one of the better examples from this year, and yeah, that was a ****up.

You also mention IA, which you have basically no idea what has been doing. How do we know if GMs aren't getting warnings for their ****ups? Fact is that we don't.

You are pointing out a problem, which is communication. But you are trying to make it into an issue which you think the CSM can solve.

How are you going to approach CCP about this, without making the CSM into seeming like a bunch of bitter people who were told that the logs shows nothing?

Doc Zid
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:51:00 - [226]
 


DiMage
Gallente
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2009.08.02 10:58:00 - [227]
 


Butternut Squash
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:01:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
How are you going to approach CCP about this, without making the CSM into seeming like a bunch of bitter people who were told that the logs shows nothing?


But is that not exactly the point?

The total uselessness of the log files affect every singe one of us ... and yes we are all bitter, some deal with it, some go emo, some go emoragequit ... but I just wonder if any player reading this has not felt bitterly disappointed due to a petition being handled in a manner that the customer thought was unjust.

KOnterfei
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:06:00 - [229]
 


Haku Cabal
The Versatile Business System

Posted - 2009.08.02 11:16:00 - [230]
 

Edited by: Haku Cabal on 02/08/2009 11:17:26

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:16:00 - [231]
 

I once asked a GM what their logs would show to them, so i could filter the issues myself an decrease the work on the GMs and the answer to it was: "Not the same as your logs".

VictorSteiner
Caldari
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:36:00 - [232]
 

Exclamation

firehelix
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:41:00 - [233]
 


Jim Pooley
The Jeremy Kyle Holding Pen
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:44:00 - [234]
 

YARRRR!!

Couldn't agree more. I hope you're not letting the devs off the hook too, they are getting more and more detached from reality these days to the point you wonder if thay actually still play the game.

Fahrq
Posted - 2009.08.02 11:54:00 - [235]
 


maya ibuki2
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2009.08.02 12:02:00 - [236]
 

supported. for me the problem is definitly the low level gm's; they are utterly useless.

i remember one particularly amusing incident for me. i logged off after having some pewpew with bob/tri in one system. an hour later my ship was destroyed by tri in another system. a certain gm (a uniquely useless example imo, lamentably named for one of those religious holidays in febuary) decided that the above was perfectly within game mechanics. the next normal gm (after i cussed that one out) said it was wierd, but were not reimbursing. i escalated and a senior gave me my ship back in about an hour <3

Kim Wilde
Gallente
Covenant
Posted - 2009.08.02 12:05:00 - [237]
 


javer
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 12:05:00 - [238]
 


Damaclease
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 12:06:00 - [239]
 


Paranid
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2009.08.02 12:10:00 - [240]
 

Edited by: Paranid on 02/08/2009 12:16:44
Edited by: Paranid on 02/08/2009 12:09:49


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