| Author |
Topic |
Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.07.30 15:11:00 - [ 31]
So the OP wants us to form lynch mobs and hunt down and wipe out the ISK buyers?
I mean I'm not complaining. All for mobs. All for random violence. Just thinking that maybe the price of air travel for everyone involved may make this a rather expensive war. Plus local authorities arn't likely to agree to our excuse. Actually pretty sure they'd be very much against it. They like to ruin the fun of lynch mobs for some odd reason. Come to think of it they like to ruin the fun of all mobs. |
Arec Bardwin |
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:13:00 - [ 32]
 Originally by: Sean Avery
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Oh I get it! You replaced the L's with R's!!! You sir are a cunning linguist.
This wirr be deart with! |
Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:37:00 - [ 33]
Edited by: Xen Gin on 30/07/2009 15:37:28
CCP should flag all accounts of ISK buyer accounts with red name text in the market and the chat channels for their current and future characters.
Then we could all deal our own justice, I'd imagine that would literally kill the account, and buying ISK through plex wouldn't be enough to restore the character.
The downside is (it really isn't) that the buyer either leaves EVE or has to get a new account! |
Discova |
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:42:00 - [ 34]
Did someone say, "Fish Ball Soup?" |
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:46:00 - [ 35]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 15:47:28 Originally by: Khemul Zula
Just thinking that maybe the price of air travel for everyone involved may make this a rather expensive war. Plus local authorities arn't likely to agree to our excuse. Actually pretty sure they'd be very much against it. They like to ruin the fun of lynch mobs for some odd reason. Come to think of it they like to ruin the fun of all mobs.
we could start off with a small task force of like 10 people wich the one or the other who have had some training in the one or the other martial arts sports, just to be on the safe side. then we could go on some 1-week holiday to beijing and look for this guy Liu Yu at Nangang District, Harbin, Heilongjiang Province, No. 42 Man Cheo, and find out what he might has to tell us about isk selling and the like. In a peaceful manner, since we are only a scout team. Itd be very much like just interviewing him a little bit and then looking what he has to tell. And then we can still beat him up a little bit if hes not cooperative enough. J/K!!!!!!!!! We would of course NOT do that! Instead every eve player must be instructed how to help making them weaker every day. Everytime they get stronger they can field more means and tools to have revenge upon us. Everytime they get weaker they will lose ground. The first step to make them weaker is to dry them out of real money. So everybody must agree to not buy a single isk from them anymore. |
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:55:00 - [ 36]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 15:59:28
grats you have just loaded a keylogger on your computer by klicking on it.
And here another battle within the great war goes ahead.
At least one of them got attracted by this thread like flies would get attracted by excrements.
see, they are coming out of their holes now.
but i have reported him and he shall get banned soon. |
Tiny Tove |
Posted - 2009.07.30 15:59:00 - [ 37]
Originally by: Tamahra
grats you have just loaded a keylogger on your computer by klicking on it
Don't for one second think I would ever click on anything relating to that particular third rate nobody. If they want my username and password, they're going to have to offer me Julianne Moore. Legs akimbo. |
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:02:00 - [ 38]
he was even so friendly and proved that he belongs to the chinese isk seller mafia. look at the gibberish stuff in the left bottom corner. Its a straight approval for it. |
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:07:00 - [ 39]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 16:13:40
oh look: (as an explanation: we have just attracted a keylogger spammer to this thread, he got reported and immediately banned)
but still: same data is available:
the link within the picture above with the keylogger behind it, where it leads to:
DOMAIN: 20589.COM
RSP:
URL: http://www.namerich.cn
owner-contact: P-CPQ30
owner-organization: chenqiang
owner-fname: chen qiang
owner-lname: qiang
owner-street: gansu
owner-city: gansu
owner-state: gansugansugansu
owner-zip: 354111
owner-country: CN
owner-phone: +86.145144455545
owner-fax: +86.145144455545
owner-email:
admin-contact: P-CPQ30
admin-organization: chenqiang
admin-fname: chen qiang
admin-lname: qiang
admin-street: gansu
admin-city: gansu
admin-state: gansugansugansu
admin-zip: 354111
admin-country: CN
admin-phone: +86.145144455545
admin-fax: +86.145144455545
admin-email:
tech-contact: P-CPQ30
tech-organization: chenqiang
tech-fname: chen qiang
tech-lname: qiang
tech-street: gansu
tech-city: gansu
tech-state: gansugansugansu
tech-zip: 354111
tech-country: CN
tech-phone: +86.145144455545
tech-fax: +86.145144455545
tech-email:
billing-contact: P-CPQ30
billing-organization: chenqiang
billing-fname: chen qiang
billing-lname: qiang
billing-street: gansu
billing-city: gansu
billing-state: gansugansugansu
billing-zip: 354111
billing-country: CN
billing-phone: +86.145144455545
billing-fax: +86.145144455545
billing-email:
nameserver: ns1.namerich.com
nameserver: ns2.namerich.com
; Please register your domains at
; http://www.namerich.cn
Domain Name: namerich.cn
ROID: 20060413s10001s49632997-cn
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant Organization: 北京众鑫乾坤网络科技有限公司
Registrant Name: 吴 养怡
Administrative Email: walter@chinaspringboard.cn
Sponsoring Registrar: 北京众鑫乾坤网络科技有限公司
Name Server:ns.namerich.cn
Name Server:ns3.namerich.cn
Name Server:ns4.namerich.cn
Registration Date: 2006-04-13 18:46 |
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:23:00 - [ 40]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 16:25:02
namerich.cn:
Visitors by Country:
China 98.8%
Visitors by City:
CN Beijing 34%
CN Shanghai 9.9%
CN Changchun 7.7%
CN Puyang 5.9%
CN Zhongyuan 5.3%
CN Hangzhou 3.6%
Server Type: Apache/2.0.55 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.0.55 OpenSSL/0.9.8b DAV/2 PHP/5.2.4
IP Address: 60.29.240.68
IP Location China - Tianjin - Tianjin - Shenzhoufanglue Limited Company
iskonsale.com:
Server Data
IP Address: 222.73.227.222
IP Location China - Beijing - Beijing - Chinanet Shanghai Province Network
Domain Status: Registered And Active Website
Registrant Search: "liu yu" owns about 312 other domains
|
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:26:00 - [ 41]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 16:27:41
IP Information for 222.73.227.222
IP Location: China China Beijing Chinanet Shanghai Province Network
IP Address: 222.73.227.222 [Whois] [Reverse-Ip] [Ping] [DNS Lookup] [Traceroute]
Reverse IP: 26 other sites hosted on this server.
Blacklist Status: Clear
Whois Record
inetnum: 222.64.0.0 - 222.73.255.255
netname: CHINANET-SH
descr: CHINANET shanghai province network
descr: China Telecom
descr: No1,jin-rong Street
descr: Beijing 100032
country: CN
admin-c: CH93-AP
tech-c: XI5-AP
changed: 20031024
mnt-by: APNIC-HM
mnt-lower: MAINT-CHINANET-SH
mnt-routes: MAINT-CHINANET-SH
remarks: This object can only modify by APNIC hostmaster
remarks: If you wish to modify this object details please
remarks: send email to with your
remarks: organisation account name in the subject line.
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
source: APNIC
person: Chinanet Hostmaster
nic-hdl: CH93-AP
e-mail:
address: No.31 ,jingrong street,beijing
address: 100032
phone: +86-10-58501724
fax-no: +86-10-58501724
country: CN
changed: 20070416
mnt-by: MAINT-CHINANET
source: APNIC
person: Wu Xiao Li
address: Room 805,61 North Si Chuan Road,Shanghai,200085,PRC
country: CN
phone: +86-21-63630562
fax-no: +86-21-63630566
e-mail:
nic-hdl: XI5-AP
mnt-by: MAINT-CHINANET-SH
changed: 20010510
source: APNIC
|
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:27:00 - [ 42]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 16:27:57
IP Information for 60.29.240.68
IP Location: China China Tianjin Shenzhoufanglue Limited Company
IP Address: 60.29.240.68 [Whois] [Reverse-Ip] [Ping] [DNS Lookup] [Traceroute]
SSL Cert: www.namerich.cn expires in 498 days.
Reverse IP: 19 other sites hosted on this server.
Blacklist Status: Clear
Whois Record
inetnum: 60.29.240.0 - 60.29.240.255
netname: SZFL-LID-BJ
country: CN
descr: Shenzhoufanglue Limited company
admin-c: HZ19-AP
tech-c: HZ19-AP
status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE
changed: 20070523
mnt-by: MAINT-CNCGROUP-TJ
source: APNIC
route: 60.28.0.0/15
descr: CNC Group CHINA169 Tianjin Province Network
country: CN
origin: AS4837
mnt-by: MAINT-CNCGROUP-RR
changed: 20060118
source: APNIC
person: huang zheng
nic-hdl: HZ19-AP
e-mail:
address: 76 NO, ShiZiLin Street ,HeBei district of Tianjin,China
phone: +86-22-24459190
fax-no: +86-22-24454499
country: CN
changed: 20050721
mnt-by: MAINT-CNCGROUP-TJ
source: APNIC
|
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:28:00 - [ 43]
know who your enemy is -- Clausewitz |
Kewso |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:32:00 - [ 44]
Edited by: Kewso on 30/07/2009 16:32:44
hehe ban china
blame canada
|
Cyprus Black
Caldari
Perkone
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:43:00 - [ 45]
What I find hilarious is that selling plex cards nets in more isk than buying from these isk sellers.
$34.99 for 2x plex cards roughly sells for 750 mil isk ingame. (depending on current market value).
$30.00 purchase from isk sellers gets you 500 mil isk ingame.
Gee, which method is safe and the better deal? Isk sellers can't even touch legitimate isk sale prices.
|
Spurty
Caldari
V0LTA
VOLTA Corp |
Posted - 2009.07.30 16:45:00 - [ 46]
I'm selling torches and pitch forks in jita 4-4, just send me 1 mill isk and I'll contract it over! |
Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative. |
Posted - 2009.07.30 19:20:00 - [ 47]
Originally by: Cyprus Black
What I find hilarious is that selling plex cards nets in more isk than buying from these isk sellers.
$34.99 for 2x plex cards roughly sells for 750 mil isk ingame. (depending on current market value).
$30.00 purchase from isk sellers gets you 500 mil isk ingame.
Gee, which method is safe and the better deal? Isk sellers can't even touch legitimate isk sale prices.
That's pretty hilarious tbh. |
Xianbei |
Posted - 2009.07.30 19:48:00 - [ 48]
Originally by: PTang
that's funny I was under the understanding on battle clinic that the IPs were tracked to Tennessee in the US.
thats funny, because I was under the understanding that any hacker worth 2c knows that he should first compromise a middleman system, then hack from there, or even through 2,3,4 systems. the concept that you can trace a GOOD hacker's REAL ip address is laughable |
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 19:57:00 - [ 49]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 19:58:06
fact is also that when the isk spammers post a telephone number in-game as a contact number, then its always a chinese number |
arjun
Viziam
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 20:18:00 - [ 50]
Edited by: arjun on 30/07/2009 20:22:07
they will only go away when they cant earn anymore so stop buying from them
also i am sure we have some trained hackers in the community which could get together to nuke all those isk seller sites |
Tamahra
Gallente
Apina.
United Pod Service |
Posted - 2009.07.30 20:37:00 - [ 51]
Edited by: Tamahra on 30/07/2009 20:41:41 Originally by: arjun
Edited by: arjun on 30/07/2009 20:22:07
also i am sure we have some trained hackers in the community which could get together to nuke all those isk seller sites
this, and there needs to be a tight cooperation between CCP, the Police, and programs like wireshark for example. Where we track down their dropzones from active keyloggers and nuke them down, in the case of our trained hackers, or close them down and initiate legal action against these people, in the case of the police. This will be step two in the great war which is the EVE community vs the chinese isk sellers. We met on EVE ground by a remote moon We heard the sound And we all knew What we had to do We called the high command Requested leave to make a stand And in the stars we grew And we all knew Soon the time would come For us to fight Isk-Sellers Now in sight |
kyoukoku
Gallente |
Posted - 2009.07.30 21:05:00 - [ 52]
Edited by: kyoukoku on 30/07/2009 21:06:46
/facepalm for all those folks who think the details on the whois records are going to even be anywhere remotely genuine, I'm sorry but you're mistaken.
The people registering the domains will have faked every bit of information used in the registration process, same as they likely would have done when creating their EVE accounts, so really it's not going to lead you anywhere useful.
How do I know this? Well domains & DNS is what I do for a living and I have to filter out so many fraudulent registrations from our system you wouldn't believe it. These folk's will use stolen credit cards, stolen identities and then try to register domains, rent webspace, emails etc and they only need a couple of schmucks to fall for their scams to make it profitable.
These scammers have no qualms about ripping off anyone they can get their teeth into, both in-game & in real life. A lot of the money they make is used to fund much more questionable activities in real life so I realy have no sympathy for anyone stupid enough to get fooled by them.
The best thing CCP can do is cut of all IP traffic from china to the service, China already has their own cluster to play with after all so there is no reason why they should get access to ours when we can't access theirs.
Anyone caught buying ISK should face instant bans and have their details (names, credit cards, postal address, email address, signup IP's, etc) blacklisted from the system.
This may not completetly stop them, they may go through anonymous proxies or botnets but at least CCP can make things as difficult for these muppets as possible.
This is a war and the sooner CCP act the better. We don't want EVE to be over run by idiot ISK buyers & sellers nor account hackers. |
XJennieX
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 21:27:00 - [ 53]
mother****ers. if only we could fly and bombard those iskselling factories from space in RL..
would make me happy panda. DEC WAR TO ISKSELLERS! |
Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 21:49:00 - [ 54]
Edited by: Ephemeron on 30/07/2009 21:52:12 Originally by: Tamahra
Originally by: arjun
also i am sure we have some trained hackers in the community which could get together to nuke all those isk seller sites
this,
and there needs to be a tight cooperation between CCP, the Police, and programs like wireshark for example. Where we track down their dropzones from active keyloggers and nuke them down, in the case of our trained hackers, or close them down and initiate legal action against these people, in the case of the police.
This will be step two in the great war which is the EVE community vs the chinese isk sellers
You don't need to be a hacker to kill their sites. The collective broadband power of all EVE community players is enough to DOS their ISP to death. CCP can't get involved due to legal matters. But a few people could organize the event and silently pass out spammer programs to willing participants. It would take quite a bit of trust tho, since they could make a program take over your comp as well. Still, source code could be open and most people can compile it themselves and distribute to friends. We'd need to move this discussion off EVE forums, and CCP mods should delete all evidence. We just need to kick start the process here it would help a lot of someone from CCP secretly supplied us with information on isk sellers, so we can have better targeted attacks. |
Amitious Turkey
Gallente
TarNec
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 22:12:00 - [ 55]
YARRRR!!!
Wait...isksellers?
... |
Cre'tal |
Posted - 2009.07.30 22:34:00 - [ 56]
Edited by: Cre''tal on 17/08/2009 17:37:31 Originally by: Malcanis
Fish ball soup?
Actually Fish Ball Rice Porridge. A place near me serves it. I've not yet been brave enough to try it. |
KaarBaak
Minmatar
Seatec Astronomy
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 22:55:00 - [ 57]
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Kolatha |
Posted - 2009.07.30 22:58:00 - [ 58]
Originally by: Cyprus Black
What I find hilarious is that selling plex cards nets in more isk than buying from these isk sellers.
$34.99 for 2x plex cards roughly sells for 750 mil isk ingame. (depending on current market value).
$30.00 purchase from isk sellers gets you 500 mil isk ingame.
Gee, which method is safe and the better deal? Isk sellers can't even touch legitimate isk sale prices.
This is highly likely why the isk sellers have come in with this new tactic. They can no longer make a decent profit because plex sales have driven the real money value of isk to unprofitable low levels. They are now attempting to squeeze a few last pennies out of the game and at the same time are doing their best to try and destroy it. As a side benefit, this whole situation is a real kick in the teeth for those who constantly and happily proclaim that rmt does no harm to the game. |
Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 23:06:00 - [ 59]
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 30/07/2009 23:07:57
Dude....
You are aware that most isk sellers are not from china? Thats teh end workers who plod away. They dont sell isk direct - they sell it en bulk to a reseller. Its the resellers that are the problem.
The biggist isk resellers and even wow gold resellers are actually american and european. |
Bestofworst Worstofbest
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
|
Posted - 2009.07.30 23:07:00 - [ 60]
Originally by: Lord WarATron
Dude....
You are aware that most isk sellers are not from china?
The biggist isk resellers and even wow gold resellers are actually american and european.
And no matter how much I think about it, it's hard to even imagine people so heartless, and laugh all you want. But these are the lowest of the low, still above prostitution, but getting there. |
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