Posted - 2009.06.12 08:36:00 - [2]

 

Short answer: No

Long answer: No, but yes kind of;

1) The amount and type of salvage is determined when the wreck is created, this is fixed and no skill or module/rig affects this.

2) The salvage skill increases the chance of accessing the wreck per cycle of the salvage module, so in essence reduces the number of cycles required to access a wreck.

3) There is nothing that reduces the actual cycle time of the salvager module

So the only way to speed up the entire process is to increase your chance of accessing the wreck on each cycle:

a) train slavage skill higher
b) use salvage tackle rigs
c) use more than one salvage module on the wreck you are trying to access

Posted - 2009.06.12 16:03:00 - [4]

 

Edited by: Ki Tarra on 12/06/2009 16:04:50

Originally by: Lilith Krell

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Short answer: No

Long answer: No, but yes kind of;

1) The amount and type of salvage is determined when the wreck is created, this is fixed and no skill or module/rig affects this.

2) The salvage skill increases the chance of accessing the wreck per cycle of the salvage module, so in essence reduces the number of cycles required to access a wreck. Using salvage rigs and TechII Salvagers have this same effect, as does this salvage hardwiring implant.

3) There is nothing one thing that reduces the actual cycle time of the salvager module

So the only way to speed up the entire process is to increase your chance of accessing the wreck on each cycle:

a) train slavage skill higher
b) use salvage tackle rigs
c) use more than one salvage module on the wreck you are trying to access

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Fixed!

Posted - 2009.06.12 18:38:00 - [6]

 

Or getting your salvage skill to 5.

%s that I've seen posted

5% chance x level of salvager skill if using salvager Is
7% chance x level of salvager skill (required level V) and using salvager IIs

So from going from level 4 (20%) to level 5 and adding a salvager II (42%) is going to increase your chances dramatically.

Posted - 2009.06.12 19:59:00 - [8]

 

Originally by: Breaker77

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Salvaging 5% per level
Salvager I 5% bonus
Salvager II 7 % bonus

Salvager I (5%) with Salvaging 4 (4 X 5%) = 25%
Salvager II (7%) with Salvaging 5 (5 X 5%) = 32%

or is the formula not that simple?

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While you are using a Salvager 1 your chance is 5% per salvaging LV, so a max of 25% with out rigs and such.

While using a Salvager 2 your chance is 7% per salvaging LV, at max is 35% with no rigs and such.

At least this is how EFT shoes this working. My guy with Salvaging 4 using a Salvager 1 is at 20% while my guy with salvaging 5 using a Salvager 2 is at 35%

Posted - 2009.06.12 21:24:00 - [10]

 

Pretty sure the skill just wasn't updated, because until Apocrypha, T1 was all you had for salvagers, codebreakers, and analyzers. I used to think that you got 5% per level of Salvaging plus 5% for the Salvager I, but that's not how it works out in practice.

Posted - 2009.06.13 01:53:00 - [12]

 

I think this answers the OPs need more precisely. Reduces cycle time.

KB

Posted - 2009.06.14 11:57:00 - [14]

 

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So I know there's the salvage skill that improves the chance of getting stuff from salvaging

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No skill does this.

Posted - 2009.06.15 11:14:00 - [16]

 

Edited by: Akita T on 15/06/2009 11:19:13

Originally by: Xymor

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While you are using a Salvager 1 your chance is 5% per salvaging LV, so a max of 25% with out rigs and such.
While using a Salvager 2 your chance is 7% per salvaging LV, at max is 35% with no rigs and such.

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I seriously doubt it would be per level, it's much more likely it's just a flat bonus.
So it's 7%+20%=27%, not 35%. Yes, that's just 2% over the T1. Pathetic.

What kind of basis do you have on claiming it's 7% per level for T2 salvager anyway ?
Are you seriously suggesting they introduced a radically better item (as opposed to just ever so slightly better) yet failed to update the skill description appropriately ?
Also, what kind of experiments have you conducted ? You do know that a flat 2% extra access difficulty modifier can translate in anything from a negligible, barely above 2% salvage chance, or can offer a hugely improved salvage chance ? That's due to the fact the WRECKS have a NEGATIVE access difficulty bonus, different for each type of wreck, that gets subtracted from the "salvager chance"...

Originally by: Hachi Ironfist

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so the maximum access difficulty is 85% ?
Salvaging 5, salvager t2, 3xsalvage tackle II + PPY = 85% am I missing something ?

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Depending on how T2 salvagers work, it might be 85%... or it might be just 20+7+3*15+5 = 77%.

Posted - 2009.06.15 12:24:00 - [18]

 

Originally by: Akita T

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Edited by: Akita T on 15/06/2009 11:19:13

Originally by: Xymor

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While you are using a Salvager 1 your chance is 5% per salvaging LV, so a max of 25% with out rigs and such.
While using a Salvager 2 your chance is 7% per salvaging LV, at max is 35% with no rigs and such.

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I seriously doubt it would be per level, it's much more likely it's just a flat bonus.
So it's 7%+20%=27%, not 35%. Yes, that's just 2% over the T1. Pathetic.

What kind of basis do you have on claiming it's 7% per level for T2 salvager anyway ?
Are you seriously suggesting they introduced a radically better item (as opposed to just ever so slightly better) yet failed to update the skill description appropriately ?
...

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according to in-game show info, T2 salvager (Salvaging 5) has 35% access difficulty bonus. knowing ccp, it could go either way. my bet is on obsolete skill description.