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Topic |
Lebaneur
Minmatar
Tribal Core
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Posted - 2009.06.09 10:48:00 - [ 1]
For those who wonder why Minmatar Militia has not yet overruled Amarr on the Tribal Front we want to remind you that Minmatar Militia is active where ever there is a need to fight for the interest of the Republic and Matari people. Currently that means on four fronts.
On the Amarr front everything is under control at the moment. We have the Amarr exactly where we want them -- fighting fiercely for every system while we easily defend our own territory. Their main forces are cornered into Kamela and when ever they venture to move out an equal force is deployed to counter them.
Our militia has also taken a brave task to clear Amamake from pirate terror and secure our support lines from high sec. The systematic obliteration of industrial and moon mining structures and fleets defending them has forced the Heretic Nation to scramble up defense for their industrial backbone. Heretics will be forced to move out of the high security gateway systems or their ability to operate will crumble.
United Militia expeditions also join their forces with our allies, The Gallente Militia, for raids into Caldari occupied systems. These raids to Old Man Star and Heydieles will stop the Caldari support for the Slaver Empire and strenghten the bonds between allied Gallente and Matari people. We reach out to help each other whenever we can.
Furthermore, in addition to War between Factions, the Matari Militia execute raids to Providence region mainly to cause havoc for the slave driven operations of CVA alliance, which the Amarr Militia is protecting.
For those who ask whether all this sensible we say: Make no mistake, we can handle it. The spirit of the tribes is strong and will guide our powers.
Tribal Front Correspondent
Lebaneur |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.09 10:56:00 - [ 2]
Edited by: Rodj Blake on 09/06/2009 10:56:25 Originally by: Lebaneur
On the Amarr front everything is under control at the moment. We have the Amarr exactly where we want them -- fighting fiercely for every system while we easily defend our own territory. Their main forces are cornered into Kamela and when ever they venture to move out an equal force is deployed to counter them.
That's odd, because less than a week ago one of your allies was claiming that the Amarr militia had been driven out of Kamela. |
Nur AlHuda
Amarr
Callide Vulpis |
Posted - 2009.06.09 11:58:00 - [ 3]
It made me so laugh nearly stalked in my robe and dropped on the floor.
If 34.96 performance is exactly where you wanted us then mad props. If there would be another combat units added from amarr militia it would drop to 20%.
I would expect more better thread from Tribal Core member. At least a post that doesnt backfire on him.
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Grr
Amarr
Imperial Retirement Home
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Posted - 2009.06.09 12:18:00 - [ 4]
I've yet to see any significant tribal gang in CVA space other than a few frigates which are usually quickly removed.
Go back to your cave, rethink your words before you beat your chest here again.
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Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2009.06.09 13:27:00 - [ 5]
Edited by: Poreuomai on 09/06/2009 13:27:41You also rarely *SEE* U'K in provi, but we are there.  |
Soren Delrayo |
Posted - 2009.06.09 14:09:00 - [ 6]
As a neutral trader in The Bleak Lands with friends in both militias, I have noticed some very interesting things lately. The Minmatar for the first time have been effectively dealing with the pirate threat in Amamake, allowing free trade to flourish. My profits have increased substantially in the last few weeks.
Every day I see Minmatar Battleship gangs with 40+ members roaming Amarr space unopposed. I spoke with one of my friends in the Amarr Militia yesterday and she told me that currently they cannot muster the forces necessary to defeat the current threat.
Currently the Minmatar are doing well for themselves. But this could change at any time. I am assuming that CVA will get involved soon since the Militia cannot fix their own problems. |
Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.09 14:27:00 - [ 7]
Edited by: Mutnin on 09/06/2009 14:31:57 Originally by: Grr
I've yet to see any significant tribal gang in CVA space other than a few frigates which are usually quickly removed.
Go back to your cave, rethink your words before you beat your chest here again.
I've yet to see you ever "remove" any of our gangs. The only thing you guys do, is stick a bubble camp up on the out gate. Meanwhile we typically have our way with in your space until we are ready to leave. Regardless, you guys should be thankful for our raids. It has to be dam boring down there doing nothing more than chaining belts all day.. |
BattleStar Crusader
Amarr
Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2009.06.09 16:38:00 - [ 8]
I honestly do not get what you minmitar are trying to achieve. And i sometimes doubt what war you are fighting, becuse its seems your fighting an imagenary one where you are actually wining. I dont want to smack at all and am rather fond of a decent and well worded argument.
But in response to your statements about the amarr militia.
We are as cornered into kamela as you are into dal, we have more hi sec options in kamela, i can see how you think we are cornered but when we have 2 low sec entry points to choose from and 4 hi sec systems to base out of i wouldnt call that cornered.
You say you run fleets un opposed through our space. what size ships are these in and can you confirm half of these don't have cloaks?. I run fleets almost every night for the amarr militia now and out of the last two weeks i have lost 1 engagment. AS i have said before i will only form the blob if there is a sufficent enemy fleet to go and destroy. I give it to you, you form up quite adaquet fleets which a majority of the time out number us by 20 people,most of these fleet unfortunatly never enter the sights of my pilots locking range, as they end up in ossogur of stuck in a station. Maybe if you fight you can back your words a bit better.
On the subject of our militia having internal problems, what problems are these, i know of none. We have no real structure but every member knows his place, we have fc's, we have our player corps and we have our intel. I have intel that the minmitar militia is in a far worse state, fighting each other, stopping people from joining fleets and a serious lack of a HOME system.
If you could be a bit more specific about "our problems" im sure i can inform you of the real situation. but as for comments like these:
"fighting fiercely for every system while we easily defend our own territory. Their main forces are cornered into Kamela and when ever they venture to move out an equal force is deployed to counter them."
You should consider your words a bit more when making these false statments.
BattleStar Crusader
CEO Absinthe Brothers Consortium
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Soren Delrayo |
Posted - 2009.06.09 17:08:00 - [ 9]
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
You say you run fleets un opposed through our space. what size ships are these in and can you confirm half of these don't have cloaks?. I run fleets almost every night for the amarr militia now and out of the last two weeks i have lost 1 engagment. AS i have said before i will only form the blob if there is a sufficent enemy fleet to go and destroy. I give it to you, you form up quite adaquet fleets which a majority of the time out number us by 20 people,most of these fleet unfortunatly never enter the sights of my pilots locking range, as they end up in ossogur of stuck in a station. Maybe if you fight you can back your words a bit better.
Pilot, you might want to check your facts before posting again. Dark-Rising has been running 40 man BS fleets all over The Bleak Lands for a couple of weeks now. My friends in 24IC tell me the only reason why they are able to do this however is a lack of competent FC's in the Amarr Militia. In fact, according to some friends of mine in the Minmatar Militia, Dark-Rising kicked your ass all the way from Taff to Kamela early last week. Quote:
On the subject of our militia having internal problems, what problems are these, i know of none. We have no real structure but every member knows his place, we have fc's, we have our player corps and we have our intel. I have intel that the minmitar militia is in a far worse state, fighting each other, stopping people from joining fleets and a serious lack of a HOME system.
The lack of a Minmatar home system is something that is being worked on according to my sources. I hope that situation gets sorted out soon, as it will make a good opportunity for profit. Quote:
If you could be a bit more specific about "our problems" im sure i can inform you of the real situation.
I believe the problem with 24IC right now is not a lack of organization per se. It is a lack of skilled and talented FC's. I hope more people step up to the plate, as more ships getting blown up on both sides means more profit for me. |
BattleStar Crusader
Amarr
Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:29:00 - [ 10]
Oh you need to check your facts, dark are a major issue, we went to taff to fight them and yes they scored 3-4 kills against us and when they decided to drop 2 nuetral carriers we did run, we then turned to fight, we engaged, and they brought in carriers again, so we withdrew in organisation and found a minmitar fleet on the hoff gate in dal. We jumped and warped away with no tackles, we then reformed. Not a loss at all in the eyes of the many many expensive t2 ships that got out. AS there was technically no fight there was no loss.
We lost a major engament on that same gate not long before and i admit that was down to me trusting my fleet and my confidense in our ability to tackle and kill darks sniper fleet. Lag poped its head up and the minmitar did well to handle our fleet.
Yes Dark do run around in huge battleship fleets, which unfornatley we are unable to counter on some occasions. But this rarely happens. (1-2 times a fortnight) But this says alot about the milita in general, Dark is the minmitar militia at the moment, and the lack of minmitar fc's with the ability to counter us is a testimony to that.
As for our lack of "compitent" fc's there is non, and if there is a member of our militia who thinks there is, come forth and tell us, so we can show you there isn't any. |
Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:55:00 - [ 11]
The Amarr can never admit the truth when it comes to us. How can they admit they are losing or even holding their own against people they consider inferior? They will always say we are losing, they have no choice. Admiting otherwise means re-examining everything they believe, the one thing they cannot do.
I have run with Dark Rising on occasion, but the majority of the time run with the general militia fleet. We have been clearing out pirates, we have been killing more ships, we have been contesting more systems, all while trying desperately to find someone from Amarr other than G. Dip willing to undock. And yes, we have had time to assist the Gallente as well. I have heard the Amarr have been putting blobs out after prayer hour, but haven't seen anything that would show me these are being effective. The rest of the day, belongs to the Minmatar. |
Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.09 17:55:00 - [ 12]
Edited by: Mutnin on 09/06/2009 17:59:00 Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
I honestly do not get what you minmitar are trying to achieve. And i sometimes doubt what war you are fighting, becuse its seems your fighting an imagenary one where you are actually wining. I dont want to smack at all and am rather fond of a decent and well worded argument.
But in response to your statements about the amarr militia.
We are as cornered into kamela as you are into dal, we have more hi sec options in kamela, i can see how you think we are cornered but when we have 2 low sec entry points to choose from and 4 hi sec systems to base out of i wouldnt call that cornered.
You say you run fleets un opposed through our space. what size ships are these in and can you confirm half of these don't have cloaks?. I run fleets almost every night for the amarr militia now and out of the last two weeks i have lost 1 engagment. AS i have said before i will only form the blob if there is a sufficent enemy fleet to go and destroy. I give it to you, you form up quite adaquet fleets which a majority of the time out number us by 20 people,most of these fleet unfortunatly never enter the sights of my pilots locking range, as they end up in ossogur of stuck in a station. Maybe if you fight you can back your words a bit better.
On the subject of our militia having internal problems, what problems are these, i know of none. We have no real structure but every member knows his place, we have fc's, we have our player corps and we have our intel. I have intel that the minmitar militia is in a far worse state, fighting each other, stopping people from joining fleets and a serious lack of a HOME system.
If you could be a bit more specific about "our problems" im sure i can inform you of the real situation. but as for comments like these:
"fighting fiercely for every system while we easily defend our own territory. Their main forces are cornered into Kamela and when ever they venture to move out an equal force is deployed to counter them."
You should consider your words a bit more when making these false statments.
BattleStar Crusader
CEO Absinthe Brothers Consortium
You guys are having to base out of high sec now for the most part, your old base was Kamela. How is this not Amarr losing functioning control of the system? Sure you can jump in from high sec easily, that's not in question but the fact is you have lost functioning control of your old home system. I think that is what he means by putting you in the corner, is just that.. You can't actively base in Kamela now.. You have been pushed back into high sec. Granted, I'd give credit to SF for that, as they tend to do most of the station camping in Kamela. Our militia has done it's part but I don't think many of us like playing station games. As for the "home" system you mentioned, that is not really a serious problem.. it's more a thing of convenience that "I" brought up on our forums. Minmatar militia has managed a long time using bases as they do now in various systems. I just brought up the point it would be easier to form fleets if we would pick just one. However it is nice to see you openly admit, that you have to resort to using spys. It's not as if it's a big surprise though, you guys have had to resort to using neutral remote rep alts in the past and more recently neutral covt ops alts for ganks. It's kinda sad really and I was personally always against that kind of stuff, but I guess I will have to rethink my personal views on the subject. |
Veshta Yoshida
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.09 18:08:00 - [ 13]
Originally by: Soren Delrayo
As a neutral trader in The Bleak Lands with friends in both militias...
You call this hogwash neutral? Wow, I bet you are way out there when you are biased. You trade in Amamake which means you sell to insurgents and pirates only, because no one else bothers with that market with Rens nearby, which makes you an insurgent just the same as your clients. Originally by: Soren Delrayo
Every day I see Minmatar Battleship gangs with 40+ members roaming Amarr space unopposed.
Yes, Mr. Taylor has a an impressive sniper BS thing going. Utterly inconsequential but impressive nonetheless. The war is not fought by the kill statistics or fleet sizes. Perhaps this "friend" who feeds you all this valuable information should take the time to actually undock and fight the fight so he realises what it is all about. Originally by: Soren Delrayo
Currently the Minmatar are doing well for themselves. But this could change at any time. I am assuming that CVA will get involved soon since the Militia cannot fix their own problems.
Read above, there is no problem. When DARK are not fielding their Battleships they die in droves just like everything else that opposes the eternal Empire. DARK's 'magnificent' roams are rather lacking as Battlestar points out. They have come to Kamela a few times but the system is usually empty since we are out doing our duty. Again, your "friend" is either completely incompetent or he is deliberately feeding you false information. Originally by: Mutnin
You guys are having to base out of high sec now for the most part, your old base was Kamela.
Huh? Why am I always the last person to be told these things! Star Fraction's war declarations against a couple of corporations has moved the actual fleet assembling away from the single station system. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the insurgents. We now form in Kourmonen, Auga, Tuomuta, Dal .. anywhere people have ship really so not that hard a blow. Actually working out well as people are spreading ships around allowing for easier reshipping when required. |
BattleStar Crusader
Amarr
Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2009.06.09 18:21:00 - [ 14]
Again the argument falls into the timezone wars. I cannot speak for american timezone as i dont play in it often. I speak only of my experiences in the EU time zone. And i admit i should of been clearer with the whole kamela subject. Starfraction have made it harder to undock large ships. But most of my corps ships are still there, as is 90% of the militia. Thought i would clarify my statement for those who are very single minded pilots. |
Aphoxakhan
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.06.09 19:26:00 - [ 15]
This is an interesting battle of beliefs; This is a battle that can not be one until someone believes that it has been lost. I'm confident every side of the discussion is certain of their own facts.
The real problem I believe is is that space is so damn big. Plenty of places to hide, business to deal with, it is impossible for the hand to know what the other is doing when they are stretched apart by lightyears. Clearly there must be some agreement to where the battle must really be at, but then no one can claim they own a system when every is fluttering around there.
Very complicated, very difficult to sort. This delightful dance may yet be the best just the way it is now. I do know I am having fun watching the infuriation unable to contain itself. Let's go, Happiness, and view the spectacle. |
Soren Delrayo |
Posted - 2009.06.09 20:19:00 - [ 16]
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
Oh you need to check your facts, dark are a major issue, we went to taff to fight them and yes they scored 3-4 kills against us and when they decided to drop 2 nuetral carriers we did run, we then turned to fight, we engaged, and they brought in carriers again, so we withdrew in organisation and found a minmitar fleet on the hoff gate in dal. We jumped and warped away with no tackles, we then reformed. Not a loss at all in the eyes of the many many expensive t2 ships that got out. AS there was technically no fight there was no loss.
You lost more ships than you killed right? You were not able to hold the field, correct? You lost. Pride cometh before the fall. A modest man learns from his mistakes and moves on, and does not repeat them a second time. Next time you head in that direction, I suggest bringing better ships. Quote:
Yes Dark do run around in huge battleship fleets, which unfornatley we are unable to counter on some occasions. But this rarely happens. (1-2 times a fortnight) But this says alot about the milita in general, Dark is the minmitar militia at the moment, and the lack of minmitar fc's with the ability to counter us is a testimony to that.
I see Dark-Rising BS fleets running around every night, however I rarely see an Amarr gang of that size. Its unfortunate, as I am sure that the Minmatar would welcome some opposition. Maybe you need someone to sell you battleships at lower prices? Quote:
As for our lack of "compitent" fc's there is non, and if there is a member of our militia who thinks there is, come forth and tell us, so we can show you there isn't any.
The problem is in the timeframe between 2300 and 0400. There are no Amarr FC's, as demonstrated last night. I hope you guys get your act together as more fighting means better business. |
Soren Delrayo |
Posted - 2009.06.09 20:32:00 - [ 17]
Originally by: Veshta Yoshida
Originally by: Soren Delrayo
As a neutral trader in The Bleak Lands with friends in both militias...
You call this hogwash neutral? Wow, I bet you are way out there when you are biased.
You trade in Amamake which means you sell to insurgents and pirates only, because no one else bothers with that market with Rens nearby, which makes you an insurgent just the same as your clients.
I sell in every major hub, Jita, Rens, Dodixie, and Amarr. I have recently began placing orders in Kamela and Tuomota as well as Amamake, and Dal. I am an equal opportunity merchant of death. Quote:
Originally by: Soren Delrayo
Every day I see Minmatar Battleship gangs with 40+ members roaming Amarr space unopposed.
Yes, Mr. Taylor has a an impressive sniper BS thing going. Utterly inconsequential but impressive nonetheless. The war is not fought by the kill statistics or fleet sizes.
Perhaps this "friend" who feeds you all this valuable information should take the time to actually undock and fight the fight so he realises what it is all about.
Would you allow a murderer to break into your house and kill your loved ones unopposed? Would you allow a vandal to place graffiti on your property? Why would you allow the Minmatar to walk all over you in these BS blobs? Quote:
Originally by: Soren Delrayo
Currently the Minmatar are doing well for themselves. But this could change at any time. I am assuming that CVA will get involved soon since the Militia cannot fix their own problems.
Read above, there is no problem. When DARK are not fielding their Battleships they die in droves just like everything else that opposes the eternal Empire.
DARK's 'magnificent' roams are rather lacking as Battlestar points out. They have come to Kamela a few times but the system is usually empty since we are out doing our duty.
Again, your "friend" is either completely incompetent or he is deliberately feeding you false information.
As I have said before they are in Amarr space doing what they please. I would have thought that your Amarr pride would have demanded that you stop them. Apparently not. I heard a similar argument from the Gallente before they lost all their systems to the Caldari. Quote:
Originally by: Mutnin
You guys are having to base out of high sec now for the most part, your old base was Kamela.
Huh? Why am I always the last person to be told these things!
Star Fraction's war declarations against a couple of corporations has moved the actual fleet assembling away from the single station system. Has nothing whatsoever to do with the insurgents.
We now form in Kourmonen, Auga, Tuomuta, Dal .. anywhere people have ship really so not that hard a blow. Actually working out well as people are spreading ships around allowing for easier reshipping when required.
I agree that Star Fraction is largely inconsequential. Their assets would be better served in other areas if they are truly trying to help the republic. |
Eran Mintor
Minmatar
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown
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Posted - 2009.06.09 22:57:00 - [ 18]
This thread is really going places.
Eran rolls his eyes.
What was the point of the OP? I preferred the previous PR statement that actually had a battle to base it's gloating off of, but this one is classless. The same bloating has been taking place since one year ago, and it is productive in no way.
I wouldn't even call it realistic, as other pilots have pointed out that the sway of the war changes in accordance with the time of day, much like a tide.
You can be prideful when you liberate Lantorn. |
Poreuomai
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2009.06.10 10:40:00 - [ 19]
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
Again the argument falls into the timezone wars. I cannot speak for american timezone as i dont play in it often. I speak only of my experiences in the EU time zone.
Time zones? In our galaxy? And what is this 'american' and 'EU' you speak of?  |
Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.06.10 11:55:00 - [ 20]
Originally by: Mutnin
Edited by: Mutnin on 09/06/2009 19:11:43
Originally by: Veshta Yoshida
stuff
Funny you posted here.. I was wondering if this Amon Xeno neutral remote rep alt was related to you?
Seems he's always in the same fights you are..odd isn't it?
Curiously, Veshta isn't listed as a participant in all of the fights in which Amon Xeno lost a ship. Another, non-PIE pilot is, however. I suggest that in future you make a little more effort when doing your research. That way, when you make your accusations you won't look so foolish. |
qanatas
Minmatar
Tribal Core |
Posted - 2009.06.10 12:21:00 - [ 21]
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
I have intel that the minmitar militia is in a far worse state, fighting each other, stopping people from joining fleets and a serious lack of a HOME system.
The past week has indeed been a bit heavy on the drama, we can only hope to do better in the future. I don't know about a lack of a HOME system. As far as I know it's always been Dal or Amamake, but some people use another base. |
Zverofaust
Gallente
Ascetic Virtues
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Posted - 2009.06.11 21:07:00 - [ 22]
Honestly, the war is... trivial.
At this moment in time the Minmatar Militia is fractured and multi-headed -- too many chiefs, not enough tribesmen. Militia forces are scattered between three core systems of Dal, Amamake and Auga, making the formation of fleets in the face of enemy action extremely difficult. Our access to the local trade hubs of Rens and Hek require several jumps through risky lowsec space. And the number of those willing to trudge through the monotony of capturing tactical locations in enemy systems (and securing our own) are few and far between.
On the flipside, the Amarr militia has, as Battlestar has pointed out, instant access to friendly high security space, a single system with a single station in Kamela in which they are based, and atleast one large corporation which makes the securing of strategically important locations its prime objective.
And yet, what is the state of things? Recently the Amarr have pulled their headquarters almost completely from their station in Kamela to hide their ships and clones in secure highsec areas; their attempts to expand their sovereignty has been kept in check; and they are resorted to having to use non-combatant scouts and logistics and spies in our fleets in order to be on par with our militia fighters.
As for our other "targets", our raids into Caldari and CVA space are almost always successful. While I do not want to rain on our allies' combat prowess, the Caldari inparticular seem incapable of matching Minmatar tactical prowess and aggressiveness and many of the fascists' ships have fallen at the cost of very few of our own.
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Chronos VIII
Amarr
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke |
Posted - 2009.06.12 09:20:00 - [ 23]
Soon all shall learn... |
BattleStar Crusader
Amarr
Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2009.06.12 09:34:00 - [ 24]
"And yet, what is the state of things? Recently the Amarr have pulled their headquarters almost completely from their station in Kamela to hide their ships and clones in secure highsec areas; their attempts to expand their sovereignty has been kept in check; and they are resorted to having to use non-combatant scouts and logistics and spies in our fleets in order to be on par with our militia fighters."
As i have said the larger ships ,battlships, moved into high sec to make the re supply of them easier, all assets remain in kamela, and clones, and alot of corp assets. THe militia still uses's it and kamela is always full of friendlies.
I can't speak on soverienty becuase i don't plex, I know that we are keeping you in "check" with your plexing. And as for nuetral spies and rempote reps. You cannot complain about us using nuetral Remote repairing ships when you yourself are using 2 nuetral Alliances to do your work for you, which i might add arent doing you any justice. |
Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.12 15:38:00 - [ 25]
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
"And yet, what is the state of things? Recently the Amarr have pulled their headquarters almost completely from their station in Kamela to hide their ships and clones in secure highsec areas; their attempts to expand their sovereignty has been kept in check; and they are resorted to having to use non-combatant scouts and logistics and spies in our fleets in order to be on par with our militia fighters."
As i have said the larger ships ,battlships, moved into high sec to make the re supply of them easier, all assets remain in kamela, and clones, and alot of corp assets. THe militia still uses's it and kamela is always full of friendlies.
I can't speak on soverienty becuase i don't plex, I know that we are keeping you in "check" with your plexing. And as for nuetral spies and rempote reps. You cannot complain about us using nuetral Remote repairing ships when you yourself are using 2 nuetral Alliances to do your work for you, which i might add arent doing you any justice.
We don't use two neutral corps to do our work for us. As you might have noticed both of those neutral corps would not get involved in our Militia's problems with pirates. Even keeping a Militia enemy blue, that should show you that they don't do our bidding for us but have their own agenda. Yes, we might share intel with them, and share a friendly blue status, but we don't fleet with them nor do they roam around like puppy dogs bailing Militia out of fights. Yes, if they happen to be camping Kamela station and if Militia is there and a target pops out, all will shoot it. Their involvement, is for their own reasons and they just happen to be friendly to our Militia and not to yours. Much the same as CVA and pets are friends of your Militia and not ours. The difference is we don't put spies in your fleets, we don't fleet neutrals in our gangs to abuse screwed up game mechanics and we don't have to resort to using neutral covt ops to gank people. However you do. This isn't null sec, where you might need BS to get an edge, this is FW that is meant to be fun fights for all. Quit this BS and win your battles with a little honor, rather than having to resort to using neutrals and all the other BS. You honestly don't think we couldn't do the same if we really wanted to? You want us to start showing up to fights with a bunch of neutral RRs? You want us to start fleeting spies in your gangs every night? We can do it..we just choose to have a bit of honor and win our battles by skill not by being a ******. Post cleaned, Keep in character please. There are no alts. Zymurgist |
Zverofaust
Gallente
Ascetic Virtues
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Posted - 2009.06.12 16:10:00 - [ 26]
You use that excuse a lot BSC, fact remains the number of times you use neutral reppers, alts and spies in your fleets versus the number of times Star Fraction or U'K actively helps is in fleet battles is tremendously lop-sided. You on the other hand don't seem able to undock without your neutral alts undocking first.
And yeah, all your big ships were moved to highsec for "easier resupply". Uh huh. Well, actually, I do believe that, it's hard for you guys to keep Kamela supplied these days. |
Furious Foot |
Posted - 2009.06.12 21:42:00 - [ 27]
*A screen flashes - and an unwashed, smelly foot appears on screen*
Yes Battelstar, keep running to highsec for 'better logistics' you carebear - remove your neutral pigdog noob-ship spies and remote-rapping alts from the war and probably, we remove our carriers too!
- Furious Foot
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Illuvian
Tribal Special Operations
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Posted - 2009.06.12 22:30:00 - [ 28]
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BattleStar Crusader
Amarr
Absinthe Brothers
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Posted - 2009.06.13 09:35:00 - [ 29]
I do love how you get so worked up its enjoyable to watch:). It seems our success only pushed you to come up with all these obsurd ideas, This is war it wont dumb down just so you guys can have it a bit easier and improve your stats on the killboard, grow a pair and get in the fight. |
Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
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Posted - 2009.06.13 16:21:00 - [ 30]
Originally by: BattleStar Crusader
I do love how you get so worked up its enjoyable to watch:). It seems our success only pushed you to come up with all these obsurd ideas, This is war it wont dumb down just so you guys can have it a bit easier and improve your stats on the killboard, grow a pair and get in the fight.
"Get in the fight" says.. the Militia whom is reduced to roaming in nothing but Inti's 90% of the time unless they have a BS blob handy. "Get in the fight", is what we say every night when we have to roam 10 to 30 jumps away from Minmatar/Amarr FW space, just so we can try to "find" a fight that doesn't "run" away. |
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