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Talon Scorpio
Caldari
Versatech Co.
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.06.03 19:38:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Heath Ledger
Originally by: Talon Scorpio

Why u fellows are like a bunch of gurlies in the woods. look how u all cling together and huddle close for comfort, reassuring each other.
made a little tour of delve this morning, all I saw were ratters, miners, and that herd of guys who all have about the same name. disconcerting amount of drakes all gathered on one gate and the only ones who bothered to even shoot at me. not bad for a bunch of macros.
As for the guy in the abaddon in the belt ratting, next time align so that when the bubble goes down u can warp out. next time maybe a cerb won't pop u.

eh. so much for entertainment.
watever


Clearly, wars are won and lost on the achievements of the solo ganker.


clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.

Talzaris
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 19:40:00 - [212]
 

Originally by: Vladic Ka
OMG. I didnt actually think kenny were actually dying off until I saw that tolon post. Well done sir.

I read this post and got excited thinking Suas was back, but then I just realized you can't spell. :-(

Heathkit
Minmatar
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 19:40:00 - [213]
 

Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!

Yonker
Amarr
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 19:44:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


You must be new here. Wars are won or lost based on many things, espionage included. You can sov3 a system and camp pipe system with multiple titans... but if you're internal security is lax you're still going to lose.

Talon Scorpio
Caldari
Versatech Co.
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.06.03 19:47:00 - [215]
 

Originally by: Heathkit
Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!


I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.

Zell Shadowcast
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.06.03 19:54:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: Zell Shadowcast on 03/06/2009 19:59:34
Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Originally by: Heathkit
Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!


I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.



I missed you talon scorpio.

Also we killed something like 500-600 towers, baby supercaps, two titans and dozens of capships, if you guys are just now able to totally win the war, why couldnt you when you still were trying to defend your space? all the spy did was drop the jammers, the rest of the failure was completely kenzokus.

Seriously if kenzoku was so great why did you guys literally lay down and let your entire space holdings be destroyed, then magically think you are superior when AAA comes south? AAA broke you guys out of PR-, if you guys were able to do anything you would have used your foothold in every delve/querious system instead of just being completely steamrolled for weeks before russians came down and held your hand.


Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:00:00 - [217]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
all I saw were ratters, miners, and that herd of guys who all have about the same name. disconcerting amount of drakes all gathered on one gate and the only ones who bothered to even shoot at me. not bad for a bunch of macros.


Zh*k Khromt*r, goon hero :patriot:

Reapeat Offender
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:04:00 - [218]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Originally by: Heathkit
Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!


I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.



I sort of consider the 200 or so tower kill mails I received while we sieged your old space unopposed around the clock for 3+ week in the process of killing over 500 towers in Delve while we camped your alliance's entire capital fleet into a NPC station for nearly a month a small accomplishment.

Talon Scorpio
Caldari
Versatech Co.
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:12:00 - [219]
 

Edited by: Talon Scorpio on 03/06/2009 20:13:04
Originally by: Zell Shadowcast} for Goonswarm.
[/quote



I missed you talon scorpio.

Also we killed something like 500-600 towers, baby supercaps, two titans and dozens of capships, if you guys are just now able to totally win the war, why couldnt you when you still were trying to defend your space? all the spy did was drop the jammers, the rest of the failure was completely kenzokus.



Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab.
That is an achievement. I understand now. Thank you.
.





Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:13:00 - [220]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Originally by: Heathkit
Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!


I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.



It is posts like these that make SHC too terrible to read. However, it is strangely satisfying to bathe in such a deep pool of tears.


Rek Esket
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:13:00 - [221]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
that herd of guys who all have about the same name. disconcerting amount of drakes all gathered on one gate and the only ones who bothered to even shoot at me.


Favorite part

Zell Shadowcast
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:15:00 - [222]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Edited by: Talon Scorpio on 03/06/2009 20:13:04
Originally by: Zell Shadowcast} for Goonswarm.
[/quote



I missed you talon scorpio.

Also we killed something like 500-600 towers, baby supercaps, two titans and dozens of capships, if you guys are just now able to totally win the war, why couldnt you when you still were trying to defend your space? all the spy did was drop the jammers, the rest of the failure was completely kenzokus.



Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab.
That is an achievement. I understand now. Thank you.
.







Will you marry me?

Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:16:00 - [223]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Edited by: Talon Scorpio on 03/06/2009 20:13:04
Originally by: Zell Shadowcast} for Goonswarm.
[/quote



I missed you talon scorpio.

Also we killed something like 500-600 towers, baby supercaps, two titans and dozens of capships, if you guys are just now able to totally win the war, why couldnt you when you still were trying to defend your space? all the spy did was drop the jammers, the rest of the failure was completely kenzokus.



Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab.
That is an achievement. I understand now. Thank you.
.





Oh the violation of space morals!

RevrendStyx
Caldari
Warhouse 13
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:19:00 - [224]
 

Originally by: Zell Shadowcast
Edited by: Zell Shadowcast on 03/06/2009 19:59:34
Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Originally by: Heathkit
Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!


I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.



I missed you talon scorpio.

Also we killed something like 500-600 towers, baby supercaps, two titans and dozens of capships, if you guys are just now able to totally win the war, why couldnt you when you still were trying to defend your space? all the spy did was drop the jammers, the rest of the failure was completely kenzokus.

Seriously if kenzoku was so great why did you guys literally lay down and let your entire space holdings be destroyed, then magically think you are superior when AAA comes south? AAA broke you guys out of PR-, if you guys were able to do anything you would have used your foothold in every delve/querious system instead of just being completely steamrolled for weeks before russians came down and held your hand.



All he did was drop the cyno jammers....So you think that gs could have done the same amount of damage in the same amount of time if the jammers were up? Come on man. I'll give you guys a bit of credit for amassing your current powerblock and bringing the good fights. You guys said you've taken 100's of systems in delve/querious right. Could you defend 100's of systems while being pushed on by PL,MM,RZR and whomever else I forgot.

I'll accept your flames with a Very Happy

Hubris
Minmatar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:20:00 - [225]
 

Trolling removed. ~Weatherman

Devian 666
Gallente
Transmetropolitan
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:22:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: RevrendStyx

All he did was drop the cyno jammers....So you think that gs could have done the same amount of damage in the same amount of time if the jammers were up? Come on man. I'll give you guys a bit of credit for amassing your current powerblock and bringing the good fights. You guys said you've taken 100's of systems in delve/querious right. Could you defend 100's of systems while being pushed on by PL,MM,RZR and whomever else I forgot.

I'll accept your flames with a Very Happy


Pilots of Honour. I think you should tell us more about your corporation.

Adanthar
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:22:00 - [227]
 

Edited by: Adanthar on 03/06/2009 20:23:21
Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So what you're saying here is that you've lost unless you can get your own director-level (actually CEO level since GS doesn't work like that) **** goons?

Besomyka
Caldari
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:27:00 - [228]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab.


... while you stood around and did nothing.

I'm sorry, but all the disbanding did was level the playing field for the invasion. It's not like you got locked out of your accounts or didn't have fleet commanders, or didn't have all your ships, ammo, and gear stationed in your systems.

As far as I can tell, you just didn't fight back effectively. Your leaders made a the tactical mistake of logging most of your fleet off in an NPC system for some reason, and we took advantage of it.

I mean, for all your posting, all I hear is whining about not being able to sit on your ass to keep your space. Oh boo-hoo.

Kenzoku people keep talking about long-term goals, but all that comes to mind are the Underpants Gnomes.

1. Log-in and x-up.
2. ????
3. Take Delve!

What's step 2?

Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:35:00 - [229]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab.
That is an achievement. I understand now. Thank you.



Your claim of impossibility would carry a lot more weight if you hadn't given up after a week of fighting. Congratulations, you chose the whiniest, most passive aggressive strategy possible, and I have to admit that you've stuck to your guns on it.

For a group that's held together by memories of past accomplishments I'd expect you to have a better grasp of history; people held space before Sov 3 and Sov 4 even existed, and the vast majority of them defended it with a lot more effort and resolve than you showed (and in the face of far more lopsided odds - remember remote doomsdays?). Given your vast tower majorities, given a ticking sov clock in your favor (with only three weeks until sov 3), you hedged against a straight-up loss by claiming the whole game was rigged, scooping up your toys and stomping on home to empire. Haargoth made it possible, but your complete and utter loss of nerve made it happen.

Zastrow J
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:40:00 - [230]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Originally by: Heathkit
Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!


I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.



i live in NOL-

Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:46:00 - [231]
 

Edited by: Snowden Vel on 03/06/2009 20:46:20
So right now the Kenny party line is something to the effect of:

"You didn't beat us, we fled."

Which would be a great comeback if we were playing tag or hide-and-go-seek or something but as it is they're doing a pretty poor job of spin.

Zippernaut
Gallente
Sigma Holding Corp
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:48:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up



this must have been horrible to watch. darn those goons Laughing

Faekurias
Caldari
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:50:00 - [233]
 

Originally by: Zastrow J
Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Originally by: Heathkit
Quote:
clearly wars are lost or won on the achievements of the solo bought out disgruntaled directer.


Yes! Yes, they are! Now you're getting it!


I got it from the second I saw the BoB alliance chat window go down. What I don't "got" is why you think it was such an achievement for Goonswarm.



i live in NOL-


I live with mom~~~~

Kurik Chryllos
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:50:00 - [234]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio
Edited by: Talon Scorpio on 03/06/2009 20:13:04
Moot claim. The hard part was done for you by Haarg. Breaking sov would have been impossible otherwise. Clear out sov 4 instantaneously in any region and all that's left is scavenging the remains.
So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality, and a horde of scavengers who swamed in and gobbled everything up in a land grab.
That is an achievement. I understand now. Thank you.



How long did it take you guys to kill ASCN?

Heathkit
Minmatar
Ars ex Discordia
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:53:00 - [235]
 

Originally by: RevrendStyx

You guys said you've taken 100's of systems in delve/querious right. Could you defend 100's of systems while being pushed on by PL,MM,RZR and whomever else I forgot.


I would propose that with a sufficiently large force imbalance, no alliance could hold a given piece of space, no matter how "skilled". That's why diplomacy, espionage, and leadership are such important parts of the game. If you're in a situation like that where you're horribly outnumbered, you've already screwed up something.

The game is every bit as much about rallying folks under your banner, and motivating them to keep fighting. That's the real level at which these wars are won and lost. In the end, it comes down to which leadership team inspires and organizes the most people.

Will Hunter
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:54:00 - [236]
 

thanks for out new outpost gewniesYARRRR!!Evil or Very Mad lmbo

Dennis08
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:56:00 - [237]
 

Originally by: Faekurias


I live with mom~~~~


i live with ur mom too. sup buddy o/

Will Hunter
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:57:00 - [238]
 

Originally by: Talon Scorpio


So basically what we have here is one person who pushed a button at the behest of a man with a great deal of character but no morality




Originally by: Talon Scorpio


great deal of character but no morality




Originally by: Talon Scorpio


morality




@_@ welp

Faekurias
Caldari
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2009.06.03 20:57:00 - [239]
 

Originally by: Dennis08
Originally by: Faekurias


I live with mom~~~~


i live with ur mom too. sup buddy o/


Ey brosef o/
all good, you take point this time dawg?
I'm kinda itchin'

Dennis08
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2009.06.03 21:04:00 - [240]
 

Originally by: Faekurias
Originally by: Dennis08
Originally by: Faekurias


I live with mom~~~~


i live with ur mom too. sup buddy o/


Ey brosef o/
all good, you take point this time dawg?
I'm kinda itchin'


i knew it, only inbreads in ur corp Shocked


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