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BeaconBeacon
Posted - 2009.05.11 00:35:00 - [1]
 

I'm currently over 20mil sp with all ammarr,caldari, and gallente medium vessels and their t2 weapon systems trained to the max. All my support skills are top notch and right now working on t2 heavy drones.

For some reason, I always feel like my ships are too weak. Some people call me paranoid, and my battle tactics usually revolve around extreme caution. I always treat an opponent like they have all skills lvl 5 and can read my mind. I'm a top performer in my corp (actually that's debatable. Last war our best fighters had around 100 kills each. I was at 3/4 that but zero deaths [they all had between 5-20 deaths]).

I don't know. It is starting to make this game unenjoyable cause I feel like I never get in any real fights. I either completely dominate, or I just don't engage. It is some wierd instinct in me drives me to avoid being destroyed at all cost. I'd rather not fight and live then to risk getting taken out.

I only complain because I feel like I might miss a lot of opportunities to kill because of this caution. Anyone else know what im feeling?

(My corp considers me a valuable asset but sometimes I think they may consider me boring cause i don't warp headfirst into any hostile I see).


Crackzilla
The Shadow Order
Posted - 2009.05.11 00:44:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Crackzilla on 11/05/2009 00:44:43


  • Fly something cheapier you don't mind losing as much

  • Warp in if you think you've got a chance


  • Marcus Druallis
    Aperture Harmonics
    K162
    Posted - 2009.05.11 00:46:00 - [3]
     

    Yeah I would tell you to use cheaper ships. A death is only harsh if it destroys a lot of your assets. If it does not, then who cares? It's just some e-numbers. Have fun with a cheaper ship and engage like a mofo.

    ThaDollaGenerale
    North Eastern Swat
    Pandemic Legion
    Posted - 2009.05.11 01:29:00 - [4]
     

    Btw, the game you're playing is internet spaceships in space. No one likes to blow up, but it will happen. I know internet spaceships is srs bznss, but just go with the flow and die a couple of times, you'll have more fun if you lemming into some situations.

    Anubis Xian
    Ministry of War
    Posted - 2009.05.11 01:32:00 - [5]
     

    Sounds like you need a Strategic Cruiser.

    Razz

    Cors
    It's A Trap
    It's A Trap Alliance
    Posted - 2009.05.11 01:58:00 - [6]
     

    If you have VERY low ship losses then start useing faction gear. if you're still feeling "weak" but still winning, then move up to the better gear. keep going till you're flying BS's worth more then most carriers. If you still are not being blown up, and still feal "weak" then save up and buy a titan..

    Draeca
    Tharri and Co.
    Posted - 2009.05.11 02:14:00 - [7]
     

    I got the same problem, but maybe even worse because I mainly fly rifters.
    On my most active days of pirating I learned an unwritten rule, that everything you engage is a trap until it's dead. This kinda makes solo roaming unenjoyable since I just can't snap out of my paranoid mindset, sit back, relax and enjoy the explosions.
    I've had some really great fights recently, but I still can't just relax and kill everyone Sad

    glassmanipulator
    Gladiators of Rage
    Wildly Inappropriate.
    Posted - 2009.05.11 02:45:00 - [8]
     

    Originally by: Marcus Druallis
    Yeah I would tell you to use cheaper ships. A death is only harsh if it destroys a lot of your assets. If it does not, then who cares? It's just some e-numbers. Have fun with a cheaper ship and engage like a mofo.


    This ^^ What's a 20-30 mil AF when you have billions...

    Rakshasa Taisab
    Caldari
    Sane Industries Inc.
    Posted - 2009.05.11 02:54:00 - [9]
     

    If you cross-trained for three races, you do _not_ have top-notch support skills at 20M SP.

    UMEE
    Perkone
    Posted - 2009.05.11 06:08:00 - [10]
     

    try iron supplements Sad

    Laeris Evanstar
    Amarr
    Petals of Derketo
    Posted - 2009.05.11 06:17:00 - [11]
     

    Welcome to EVE

    Franga
    NQX Innovations
    Posted - 2009.05.11 06:25:00 - [12]
     

    Originally by: UMEE
    try iron supplements Sad

    TimMc
    Brutal Deliverance
    Gypsy Band
    Posted - 2009.05.11 06:32:00 - [13]
     

    Edited by: TimMc on 11/05/2009 06:32:49
    I have the same problem, except living in 0.0 means I die anyway.

    Edit: I would say go roaming with someone else in charge who you trust. Do everything they say. You will get more action and some close calls/deaths.

    Arec Bardwin
    Posted - 2009.05.11 07:24:00 - [14]
     

    Eat less bacon and more fish, vegetables and fruit. Daily physical exercise may also help you out a lot.

    Rordan D'Kherr
    Amarr
    Posted - 2009.05.11 07:50:00 - [15]
     

    Originally by: BeaconBeacon
    For some reason, I always feel like my ships are too weak.


    I am over 40M SP and I think this won't never change...

    baltec1
    Posted - 2009.05.11 08:12:00 - [16]
     

    Originally by: Draeca
    I got the same problem, but maybe even worse because I mainly fly rifters.
    On my most active days of pirating I learned an unwritten rule, that everything you engage is a trap until it's dead. This kinda makes solo roaming unenjoyable since I just can't snap out of my paranoid mindset, sit back, relax and enjoy the explosions.
    I've had some really great fights recently, but I still can't just relax and kill everyone Sad


    I used to be like that, every death hurt. But now if the FC tells me to go pick a fight against impossible odds I will fly in windmilling away at anything in range.

    Xanos Blackpaw
    Amarr
    Inadeptus Mechanicus
    Posted - 2009.05.11 08:17:00 - [17]
     

    get a tempest. as we have all seen in CS2 they can take out much larger ships solo.

    Midge Mo'yb
    Bat Country
    Goonswarm Federation
    Posted - 2009.05.11 08:21:00 - [18]
     

    Your issue IMO is you feel ship progression Frig>cruiser>battlecruiser>etc should mean the next is better than the last, this is far from true as circumstanses and fittings will change the outcome.

    The best way IMO to learn is throw together a T1 Cruiser and go looking for somethign to kill, obviously dont purposly get killed - but pick your target and have at it.

    good fun will ensue :D

    Midge Mo'yb
    Bat Country
    Goonswarm Federation
    Posted - 2009.05.11 08:22:00 - [19]
     

    Originally by: baltec1
    Originally by: Draeca
    I got the same problem, but maybe even worse because I mainly fly rifters.
    On my most active days of pirating I learned an unwritten rule, that everything you engage is a trap until it's dead. This kinda makes solo roaming unenjoyable since I just can't snap out of my paranoid mindset, sit back, relax and enjoy the explosions.
    I've had some really great fights recently, but I still can't just relax and kill everyone Sad


    I used to be like that, every death hurt. But now if the FC tells me to go pick a fight against impossible odds I will fly in windmilling away at anything in range.


    you missed epic roam at the weekend :P was funny as **** :D

    baltec1
    Posted - 2009.05.11 08:29:00 - [20]
     

    Originally by: Midge Mo'yb
    Originally by: baltec1
    Originally by: Draeca
    I got the same problem, but maybe even worse because I mainly fly rifters.
    On my most active days of pirating I learned an unwritten rule, that everything you engage is a trap until it's dead. This kinda makes solo roaming unenjoyable since I just can't snap out of my paranoid mindset, sit back, relax and enjoy the explosions.
    I've had some really great fights recently, but I still can't just relax and kill everyone Sad


    I used to be like that, every death hurt. But now if the FC tells me to go pick a fight against impossible odds I will fly in windmilling away at anything in range.


    you missed epic roam at the weekend :P was funny as **** :D


    I hate weekend night shiftsEvil or Very Mad

    The AEther
    Caldari
    Agony Unleashed
    Agony Empire
    Posted - 2009.05.11 08:51:00 - [21]
     

    You just have a stronger sense of self-preservation than your corpmates, which can be both a good and a bad thing. One the positive side you don't die because you pick your fights well. On the negative side like you say is that you don't get into as many fights, resulting in less kills, and you don't get into those borderline fights that many people consider to be the most fun where outcome is less from certain.

    You can try going against your own instincts and start taking more risks, but it is not guaranteed that you will find that fun. May be play drunk more? Alcohol has been known to override that sense of self-preservation. May be try to pick fights on test server where they don't matter? Fly cheaper ships? Start a new character join some random pirate corp that doesn't care about your losses and pvp in frigs and cruisers? It's your choice.

    Draeca
    Tharri and Co.
    Posted - 2009.05.11 09:51:00 - [22]
     

    Originally by: baltec1
    Originally by: Draeca
    I got the same problem, but maybe even worse because I mainly fly rifters.
    On my most active days of pirating I learned an unwritten rule, that everything you engage is a trap until it's dead. This kinda makes solo roaming unenjoyable since I just can't snap out of my paranoid mindset, sit back, relax and enjoy the explosions.
    I've had some really great fights recently, but I still can't just relax and kill everyone Sad


    I used to be like that, every death hurt. But now if the FC tells me to go pick a fight against impossible odds I will fly in windmilling away at anything in range.

    It doesn't really hurt to lose stuff, it's just that I'm damn nervous when roaming around and it's hard to relax and just kill people. I've got quite a few nice against all odds fights lately and I really do love them (except that rokh, drake & arbi vs. my rifter 1v3, when the arbi warped out from my 2 point scram on hull SadSad)

    Haks'he Lirky
    Durgarnir
    Posted - 2009.05.11 10:05:00 - [23]
     

    Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
    If you cross-trained for three races, you do _not_ have top-notch support skills at 20M SP.


    this

    Pan Crastus
    Anti-Metagaming League
    Posted - 2009.05.11 10:07:00 - [24]
     

    Originally by: BeaconBeacon

    I only complain because I feel like I might miss a lot of opportunities to kill because of this caution. Anyone else know what im feeling?



    You're doing fine I guess, just don't be so religious about not losing a ship, sometimes risking a loss is OK if it helps win the fight (i.e. in gang PVP, not solo).


    PostmasterGeneral
    Minmatar
    yo i'm posting
    Posted - 2009.05.11 10:10:00 - [25]
     

    if you've got 20 million SP spread over three races, odds are good that you can't do any one of those particular races well. i would pick which fighting style you like the most (close combat, sniping, whatever) and then specialize.

    Sniper Wolf18
    Gallente
    A Pretty Pony Princess
    General Tso's Alliance
    Posted - 2009.05.11 10:19:00 - [26]
     

    Get a bunch of neutral remote reppers, theres no point in having any risk, right?

    Ms Delerium
    Posted - 2009.05.11 10:32:00 - [27]
     

    Oh you Achuras and your min/max syndrome...

    - you dont need to fly the most expensive ship with faction/officer mods
    - you dont need to be 100% sure you will win
    - you dont need to get 0% losses ratio in your KB


    Washell Olivaw
    Posted - 2009.05.11 12:39:00 - [28]
     

    Determine how much you're willing to spend on having fun a month. Take risks until your ship losses have climbed up to that amount. Resume old play style for the rest of the month.

    Still leaves you in control, but without the straightjacket.

    MonkeyGod
    Posted - 2009.05.11 12:56:00 - [29]
     

    Originally by: BeaconBeacon
    I'm currently over 20mil sp with all ammarr,caldari, and gallente medium vessels and their t2 weapon systems trained to the max.



    maybe thats your problem? i feel disadvantaged by just being crosstraining between gallente and caldari and they even share the same gun types, and i have 25mil sp. perhaps you should focus more on one area?

    RiotRick
    Kamehameha I's Revenge
    BricK sQuAD.
    Posted - 2009.05.11 13:04:00 - [30]
     

    Edited by: RiotRick on 11/05/2009 13:05:14
    I usually do the complete opposite thing :D
    I shoot first, think later.

    Because of this is I lose a lot of ships, but on the other hand I do get a lot of good fights. That's what it's all about for me. Isk means nothing to me, as long as I can replace my ships I'm ok.

    Maybe that's why I'm called RiotRick Twisted Evil


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